Edwird
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Even though at least three of your proposed 'facts' are entirely wrong, especially "Band of Gypsies," you still use those errors to dance your way around the fact that neither Clapton nor Hendrix use the wah-wah pedal all the way thorough their repertoire, and continue to avoid the subject at hand in any case. I didn't bring up the subject of bad musical non-talents playing musical instruments, you did, as a blatant red herring to the subject I brought up. That issue has been around for ages, sorry you missed it. quote:
And the problem has to be the original source recordings, not the shitty reproduction through some bass-heavy stereo in some chav's car or a tinny invitation to a migraine that makes a car stereo sound like a vintage cinema quad system blaring out of a shop that's there more to make Primark look classy than for any other reason? I've worked a good bit in pro audio, 25+ years of live sound mixing,for hundreds of shows, have passed through a year each of music theory and a piano tuning and repair course, with another year of studio recording, with a certificates each in the latter two. At least my peers seem to have taken note of that. When the unmistakable cheap toy drum sound comes through any sound system, it doesn't take magical ears to hear where the problem is. Also, I have the most beat up records in the world, along with the most well kept audiophile half-speed mastered and direct-to-disk recordings, on a pretty good system. Along with a pro tape machine. I think I can tell the difference in what sonic detriment comes from where just possibly a slight bit better than you. I could be wrong. "a record that sounded like a Cilla Black ... Sorry to hear that you're a Cilla Black hater, not that I'm her biggest fan. In any case, let's move on. You wouldn't have come up with JL's use of the Clavioline in the first place had I not brought it to your attention, whereupon you went all Googly moogly. But it is quite instructive that you apparently can't hear the Blatently Obvious (sonically different) way in which he used it as opposed to my earlier examples. This is why you had whatever career you did and I had mine. But again, even with the Clavioline used in the cases you mention, (and yes, I was already aware of them) how much of that did we hear when walking down the street, in a mall? In a store? Etc. That's the other side of it; they blast this shite everywhere nowadays. And I fully agree, things were not all roses in the '60s or '70s or 80s or '50s or whenever, in whatever sense. Not culturally or otherwise. BTY, George didn't buy a Mellotron for the Beatles. They already had that at EMI studios when JL recorded Strawberry Fields, and it was Paul's idea to use it. The Mellotron was an analog device that used a keyboard to actuate tape playback of recordings of various musical instruments. It was nothing near a synthesizer at all. George bought the real deal Moog synthesizer somewhere in early-mid '69. And sorry, no excuses that "we are still trying to figure it out" just like they did in the good old days. It doesn't take 10 years for anyone not wearing a hearing aid to figure out a toy drum sound when they hear it, especially when more than adequate syndrums have been out for 15 years already. I can well assure you the foisting of sonic crap I'm speaking of is quite intentional. I know people in the business, which is why I'm not in it anymore. It's OK to try new things, go for a different sound, etc. It helps to have people with the ears to do it, that's all.
< Message edited by Edwird -- 8/18/2016 6:59:30 AM >
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