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Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 9:05:53 PM)
You're missing the point. Which is why VML can get away with the BS he's spreading. You argue his fake little lies. My he little leftists sit smoking dope in groups of two or three and come up with these platitudes. You can't argue his lines, they're leftist fakes. We've let his type have the argument too long without calling BS. Well, you know what, he's a racist BS artist.

Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 9:06:52 PM)
"Rowanda " How about Zimbabwe ? When White Man gave away rights the country turned from being the bread basket of Africa to a basket case. And there ain't no "O" in there. They used to have jobs and all that, and food, now they got nothing. I suppose the liberals are happy now and want to send your tax dollars to help them. To help them eat and fuck and have twelve kids, instead of how it used to be. South Africa was a slightly different story with the diamonds and all. But still, does a South African get a check for the natural resources of his country ? I doubt it. T^T

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 10:26:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Vince history is to learn from... not to be tied to with a ball and chain. I am responsible for my actions today not for my great great grandfathers actions in the past. There is a course to follow for the African Americans still suffering from past racism... Education... not police cameras. Butch I guess you gotta walk in their shoes, Butch. Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people Because they can't buy a gun because they got a criminal record. So they work out and get tough, and the cops know it. And I know it. I study electronics and physics and they pump iron. Therefore I pump lead. I am not justifying all this but facts are facts. Anyone with the balls to invade my space is subject to execution, no matter the color. Cops deal with people all the time and probably have a better idea what to expect. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. They do need to stop shooting people though, seems they need better physical training. Every time you hear of cops beating someone up it is the suspect is on the ground, handcuffed behind the back and five cops are kicking him. I want to see these supposedly physically train officer in a hand to hand combat with one tough motherfucker who can fight back. I know someone who beat the shit out of a cop and took his gun. This guy is only 5'3" or so and never had any physical or martial arts training. I also want to know why some disgruntled Muslim can walk into a military base and kill a bunch of our troops without getting his head blown of right then and there. The government is not as tough as they want you to think. T^T Because with very few exceptions military people aren't allowed to carry on base.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 10:30:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: Klansmen were most often powerless people who resorted to the scapegoating of blacks to feel like they were somebody. The powerless need racism more than the powerful. Very astute. Good point. They were hanging judges and later Blacks. That does not sound powerless to me. T^T Because they were in gangs and in disguise, the Klan gave them power they didn't have otherwise, like the Crips and Bloods do for kids today.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 10:31:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or FR OK folks now that the definition of racism has been brought up, first of all the first guy I ever hired in business was Black. I used the Nword in front of him but NEVER called him that. He called me a honky once in a while. We got along and partied after work sometimes. But he did a decent job. I do not want to fuck Black, Oriental, Muslim/Arabic type, or Hispanic Women. Is that racist ? T^T That is preference, I don't go for skinny women.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 10:35:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "Rowanda " How about Zimbabwe ? When White Man gave away rights the country turned from being the bread basket of Africa to a basket case. And there ain't no "O" in there. They used to have jobs and all that, and food, now they got nothing. I suppose the liberals are happy now and want to send your tax dollars to help them. To help them eat and fuck and have twelve kids, instead of how it used to be. South Africa was a slightly different story with the diamonds and all. But still, does a South African get a check for the natural resources of his country ? I doubt it. T^T Another good example

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 10:59:34 PM)
Fair go though, the majority of the whites in Zim fought to keep the status quo. It was the Brit government that betrayed them and left them to the mercy of the freedom fighters. Now it is mainly blacks killing blacks there, because the majority of the whites have got out of the place and I reckon most of those came to Australia smile. The whites that are left there are finding it pretty tough.................but there again, so are a lot of the blacks.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 11:02:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 Fair go though, the majority of the whites in Zim fought to keep the status quo. It was the Brit government that betrayed them and left them to the mercy of the freedom fighters. Now it is mainly blacks killing blacks there, because the majority of the whites have got out of the place and I reckon most of those came to Australia smile. The whites that are left there are finding it pretty tough.................but there again, so are a lot of the blacks. I understand it has turned into pretty much a hellhole. So much for the claim that every thing bad that has happened to black people was done by whites.

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 11:16:11 PM)
We have neighbours behind us and next door to us Bama. We often go to each others places for 'Brawes' (Barbecues) and they tell us about how it was and what it's like now ( they still have friends out there). One family was sponsoring a black family who were long term friends of their, to come here as immigrants. That family just vanished and nobody can find hide nor hair of them. It's like Hitlers 'Nacht un Nebel' decree. People just vanish without trace and it really doesn't pay to go looking for them or ask too many questions about them. Des, one of the neighbours, went over to look for them. He took a bad beating in a back alley one night and was declared persona non grata when he reported it the next day.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 11:19:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 We have neighbours behind us and next door to us Bama. We often go to each others places for 'Brawes' (Barbecues) and they tell us about how it was and what it's like now ( they still have friends out there). One family was sponsoring a black family who were long term friends of their, to come here as immigrants. That family just vanished and nobody can find hide nor hair of them. It's like Hitlers 'Nacht un Nebel' decree. People just vanish without trace and it really doesn't pay to go looking for them or ask too many questions about them. Des, one of the neighbours, went over to look for them. He took a bad beating in a back alley one night and was declared persona non grata when he reported it the next day. I think that qualifies as a hellhole Evil has no racial limits

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 11:36:37 PM)
There and South Africa were the only places I know of where mercenaries offered to fight for no wages unless they won, just their subsistence. And the men that went there were experienced military men, ( including some of your countrymen who mysteriously became Canadians for the duration of their staysmile). And before anybody asks, I am what people on here call a 'leftie', although the term really has little meaning. Basically, I am me and I walk my own patrol as I have done for many years.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 4:14:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874 There and South Africa were the only places I know of where mercenaries offered to fight for no wages unless they won, just their subsistence. And the men that went there were experienced military men, ( including some of your countrymen who mysteriously became Canadians for the duration of their staysmile). And before anybody asks, I am what people on here call a 'leftie', although the term really has little meaning. Basically, I am me and I walk my own patrol as I have done for many years. They felt that strongly about the cause?

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 4:32:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML So, basically, the author is saying these are not riots; they are mini revolutions against systemic inequality and brutality. The author also says most white Americans are not prepared to hear it that way, Yes, everyone has heard the narrative. But I think that the vast majority of Americans view rioting, looting, arson and the murder of police officers as criminal lawlessness plain and simple, which means that these tactics are not likely to engender sympathy or further the gains we have made toward improving race relations in America. K. I absolutely agree they will not gain much sympathy. However, i doubt they are planned tactics but eruptions of rage from frustration and a long simmering anger. I had growing hope for what i saw happening among the millennial generation where there seemed to be a growing social integration. But now I see reversal of public school integration and other social inequalities where blacks are becoming more isolated, on college campuses for instance and in neighborhoods and even prisons where the fastest growing segment of incarcerated Americans are women, mostly women of color, and 80% of them mothers. Up from 8000 in 1970 to 110,000 in 2014. Mostly poor and many with histories of trauma. In any case, getting back to your original observation about segments of the black population. I did not perceive a lot of hatred or anger in my experience, just occasional scowling. But my optimism for the future has taken a downturn. source When the mayor of Balitimore says to give them room to destroy it may not have been a plan on the part of the rioters but it was on the the part of the mayor who deliberatly encouraged rioting, or she is a moron.

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 6:38:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down. There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark. Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state. BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy. Newark erupted in the 1960s . . . snipers allegedly.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:18:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down. There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark. Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state. BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy. Newark erupted in the 1960s . . . snipers allegedly. Still waiting for your cites, Vince...from 2 pages ago.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:28:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: F If it was open armed rebellion shouldn't the army have been sent in to put it down. There were military tanks or personnel carriers on Springfield Avenue in Newark. Tanks in Newark is not putting down a revolt in Baltimore, that's not even the same state. BTW what were they doing, is there a NG armory on Springfield Avenue in Newark. I guess part of the military plan to put down the rebellion was to give them room to destroy. Newark erupted in the 1960s . . . snipers allegedly. Then you responded to a comment about Baltimore as if what happened in Newark in the 60s? During the post King riots the Governor sent snipers into both St Louis and KC, told everyone he was doing it, they had less people killed in the whole state over the whole course of the rioting than the first day in DC at the same time.

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:43:29 AM)
quote: Vince we all have the same feet... that was and is a bullshit argument... Racism can be very easily quantified. If they can show racism I am all for stamping it out. Butch, this Salon article i posted earlier is an opinion piece in which the writer makes a case for changing our thinking over the "causes" of the reactions in the black streets. Yeah, there are grievances about education, poverty, and jobs. Trump made the claim last night for about 50+% unemployment among black youth. Surprising to me. The writer, DeVega, says that those grievances, while valid, are not the main issue, that the MSM by framing those grievances within a "white" thought process have obfuscated black rage at police tactics, mass incarceration, and incidents of disrespect. From time to time they explode like the man in the open window in some movie screaming, "I'm fed up and I'm not going to take this anymore." I am not sure I can do justice to DeVega's point but I think he sums it up well in this paragraph: It is easy for the mainstream news media to opine and lecture about “pathological” black communities that are supposedly plagued by “bad culture.” It is far more difficult to talk about America’s broken police and its culture of violence and disrespect toward non-whites and poor people that led to the killing of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, and so many other black men and women across the United States of America. Just last November an unarmed black man was shot dead by Milwaukee police. And Like many other major cities, Minneapolis police have paid out millions in lawsuits over police conduct in recent years. In October, the city settled a lawsuit for $122,000 regarding a 2012 incident in which police allegedly assaulted a black man over a gun he was legally permitted to carry. “This is a part of a pattern of police abuse that’s been going on for decades in the city of Minneapolis,” said Nekima Levy-Pounds, a civil rights lawyer and the president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP, in an interview with MintPress News on Monday. She also highlighted the cases of Terrance Franklin and Tycel Nelson as other high-profile examples of what she called “execution-style killings” by police. source Yes, more black families have "moved on up" and there have been well-meaning programs and legislation to assist people of color but racism is not history in America; it continues in the attitudes of many whites and in the activities of the "Rodney King Squads."

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:47:41 AM)
I mentioned the Kerner Report which was published in 1968.

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:49:42 AM)
Which cities, CD?

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/20/2016 7:53:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji You're missing the point. Which is why VML can get away with the BS he's spreading. You argue his fake little lies. My he little leftists sit smoking dope in groups of two or three and come up with these platitudes. You can't argue his lines, they're leftist fakes. We've let his type have the argument too long without calling BS. Well, you know what, he's a racist BS artist. How pathetic. I have sourced my arguments pretty carefully. Go look at the sources and tell me where the lies are.

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