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kdsub -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 4:36:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Vince if your percentages are correct 11,000,000 blacks live in poverty and 19,500,000 whites live in poverty.

You should know blacks killed by police...and not just white police...make a story... whites killed don't... News outlets have to make money. I believe it was Bama, not sure, that pointed out the number of whites shot by police and it was shrugged off because of the difference in populations.

Butch

Once in a while I don't agree with you. But, you are always sane and rational. It adds to debate. I appreciate it.



lol... thanks...but more than a few would say you were not sane to say it.

Butch




Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 4:36:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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I never said that you used the Hitler card, I said that "white privilage " is the same kind of scapegoating that racists have used since the begining of time.

I never used the term "white privilege."

I am saying that you are playing the Hitler card, and you are when you compare white privilege accusations to the international Jewish conspiracy, which you did.

In a later thread i see you accused me of being racist. Evidence?

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Don't compare the number of blacks and whites to the total population, compare them to the % of violent crimes committed you will find that 52% of violent crimes are committed by blacks


Selective bullshit by you. According to the data presented in this FBI table 52.2% of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter were committed by blacks vs. 45.3% by whites. Blacks committed 56.4% of robberies compared to 41.9% by whites.

But, and this is Big Fucking "But" #1 . . . .

Whites excelled in rape: 66.2%, aggravated assault: 62.9%, burglary: 67.5%, larceny-theft: 68.3%, motor vehicle theft: 66.7%, arson: 74.1%, and so on.

Big Fucking "But" #2 . . . .

In the category of all violent crimes whites 58.4%, blacks: 38.7%

Incidentally, for those who jabber on about empathy for people's property, whites committed 68.2% of all property crimes but only 29% by blacks.

So, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean you are just ignorant or deceitful in cheery picking data.



you also forgot the 95% of serial killers are white..... funny ...I think cherry picking data is kind of their thing too..... just say'n




Hum, I wonder if it's okay to profile them or do we have to check grannies in wheel chairs too while seeking serial killers?




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 4:55:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Not a bias... just greed... In almost every story they leave out important details, speculate, and print headlines designed to inflame groups of people to increase circulation.

How many times do we read or hear... Another unarmed black man killed by a white police officer... when the actual story is black man tries to get officers gun and is killed in the struggle. Yet you hear nothing of the white man shot by police or the hundreds of blacks murdered by blacks for every one killed by police... that is old hat and happens every day... not worth anything but a small paragraph on page 9.

Butch

A black death, particularly if it can be made to look contriversial gets much better ratings (sells more papers) so to them white lives don't matter because there is no profit in them.




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 4:57:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: Kirata

People destroy another's property because... reasons. People hack innocents to death because... reasons. But reason neither explains nor justifies their actions. It serves only to rationalize their pathological lack of empathy for the affected victims. Neither jobs nor benefits will cure that.

Remaining blind to the impact of outsourcing and technological revolutions on the plight of the poor will not solve a problem that shows promise of getting worse; nor will inventing some imagined lack of empathy help reduce the isolation of the disadvantaged into ghettos.

Ferchrissake, Vincent, read what it says and stop listening to your lamp-socket. Nobody is inventing a merely "imagined" lack of empathy, and nobody is remaining blind to anything except you.

K.


Let’s be honest here. None of us who are white knows what it is like to be black, jobless, and poorly educated in America. Maybe frustration trumps empathy.

And interestingly enough, until the Great Sociaty was initiated blacks consistently had higher rates of employment, black families were intact and emphasized education to better themselves. It took just sixty years of liberal empathy to destroy the black culture.

Could it be that (misguided) empathy breeds frustration?




Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 5:18:13 PM)

FR

Could it be that giving anyone anything more than a fair chance makes them weak and instills a sense of entitlement in them ?

And that did happen to Whites when there was privilege, and now Blacks have caught up to a 3,000 year old society in about one tenth of the time.

T^T




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 8:39:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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I never said that you used the Hitler card, I said that "white privilage " is the same kind of scapegoating that racists have used since the begining of time.

I never used the term "white privilege."

I am saying that you are playing the Hitler card, and you are when you compare white privilege accusations to the international Jewish conspiracy, which you did.

In a later thread i see you accused me of being racist. Evidence?

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Don't compare the number of blacks and whites to the total population, compare them to the % of violent crimes committed you will find that 52% of violent crimes are committed by blacks


Selective bullshit by you. According to the data presented in this FBI table 52.2% of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter were committed by blacks vs. 45.3% by whites. Blacks committed 56.4% of robberies compared to 41.9% by whites.

But, and this is Big Fucking "But" #1 . . . .

Whites excelled in rape: 66.2%, aggravated assault: 62.9%, burglary: 67.5%, larceny-theft: 68.3%, motor vehicle theft: 66.7%, arson: 74.1%, and so on.

Big Fucking "But" #2 . . . .

In the category of all violent crimes whites 58.4%, blacks: 38.7%

Incidentally, for those who jabber on about empathy for people's property, whites committed 68.2% of all property crimes but only 29% by blacks.

So, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean you are just ignorant or deceitful in cheery picking data.



you also forgot the 95% of serial killers are white..... funny ...I think cherry picking data is kind of their thing too..... just say'n




And in spite of this blacks commit, with verification from Vincent 52% of the murderers in this country. So what they lack in skill they make up for in enthusiasm.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 8:43:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
And in spite of this black committ, with verification from Vivent 52% of the murderersin this country. So what they lack in skill they make up for in enthusiasm.

oh wow




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 8:55:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
And in spite of this black committ, with verification from Vivent 52% of the murderersin this country. So what they lack in skill they make up for in enthusiasm.

oh wow

The point was that his observation was meaningless as those serial killers are included in those figures (unless he wants to claim that they were left out do to his all embracing "white privilage" ) which only reduces the number of white murderers. Not the number of murders, just the number of whites who murder.




Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 9:28:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

Could it be that giving anyone anything more than a fair chance makes them weak and instills a sense of entitlement in them ?

And that did happen to Whites when there was privilege, and now Blacks have caught up to a 3,000 year old society in about one tenth of the time.

T^T

Interesting concept,but not allowed.




Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/17/2016 9:37:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he cant be a part of the solution, why should he...he has his, he has no clue, he is the problem, actually most of the ignorant assholes posting racism/ignorance, left right and center will never want to be part of a solution.


I rarely contribute much when threads "turn" like this on here.
I don't have the time, interest or the energy.

I don't think the young man involved in Milwaukee was "innocent", I certainly don't condone this violence or looting.

I offered an explanation for the frustration that many people of all races are feeling these days.
There is a serious issue with meth and heroin these days among young and some older white folks.

Some self destruct with guns, some with drugs, and some with crime, some with suicide.
The common thread for many of these people is hopelessness and frustration.
Again I said this is the explanation for some not all.

Lucy knows this about me because she follows me around and takes notes about all the things I have recieved, or she is just blowing smoke to look like she cares more than me.
What have I gotten, particularly because I am white?
How specifically have I contributed to the problem?
It would seem that it is not me who know not whereof they speak.
We have two racists on this thread, ok maybe three.
Termy.
itsSirtou
And Vincent.



ya know some days bamad, ur just a laugh riot and this IS one of them!! So when people complain about white male privilege, or short-list the worst things white males have single handedly been responsible for, ur sorry ass call THEM the racists??? REALLY??

The truth is, ur not honest enough and u wouldn't tell us if u'd even gotten preferential treatment even if u recognized it. And Im not sure ur smart enough to do so from ur whining about it.

I don't have all day....but How specifically have u contributed to the problem? Here's a few ways and I'm sure others can point out more.

1. Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.

2. Calling other people racists for letting you know that they been the victim of white male privilege,(and just plain racism.) also contributes to the problem. - I know I've told u so on other threads.

3. Telling me I am a racist for not wanting anyone to have privilege, (no white privilege, no black privilege, no male privilege, no woman privilege, or no person who is a funny looking shade of chartreuse and has body parts from both sexes privilege either.) Also is contributing to the problem.

I know ur CONservative, and all you really care about is keeping the gop status quo, ....but even you can't be as dense as a box of rocks to not see whats happening and or why people of color are upset, angry, and unfortunately increasingly violent.


Actually, most racists I know are Chinese. Second most are black. The whole concept of white male privilege is racist. Ivelaughed my ass off walking down a street in China town with a woman who understood Chinese and translated for me what the locals were saying. Yet it was nothing compared to what blacks were taught and were saying in public. It's easy to say white male privilege for your hate. If you personally hear, "prejudice" every time "white male privilege is said it's easy to see.




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 1:14:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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I never said that you used the Hitler card, I said that "white privilage " is the same kind of scapegoating that racists have used since the begining of time.

I never used the term "white privilege."

I am saying that you are playing the Hitler card, and you are when you compare white privilege accusations to the international Jewish conspiracy, which you did.

In a later thread i see you accused me of being racist. Evidence?

quote:

Don't compare the number of blacks and whites to the total population, compare them to the % of violent crimes committed you will find that 52% of violent crimes are committed by blacks


Selective bullshit by you. According to the data presented in this FBI table 52.2% of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter were committed by blacks vs. 45.3% by whites. Blacks committed 56.4% of robberies compared to 41.9% by whites.

But, and this is Big Fucking "But" #1 . . . .

Whites excelled in rape: 66.2%, aggravated assault: 62.9%, burglary: 67.5%, larceny-theft: 68.3%, motor vehicle theft: 66.7%, arson: 74.1%, and so on.

Big Fucking "But" #2 . . . .

In the category of all violent crimes whites 58.4%, blacks: 38.7%

Incidentally, for those who jabber on about empathy for people's property, whites committed 68.2% of all property crimes but only 29% by blacks.

So, you don't know what you're talking about. I mean you are just ignorant or deceitful in cheery picking data.

BTW if you actually read the post you find so offensive you will notice that I was responding ,not toyou, but to itsSIRtou. And he most assuredly uses the phrase white privilage as a catch all to absolve black people of any responsiblity for their actions.
Here is the reason you he and I donot communicate well. All you see is race, what I see is people.




Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 1:57:54 AM)

"Actually, most racists I know are Chinese. Second most are black. The whole concept of white male privilege is racist. Ivelaughed my ass off walking down a street in China town with a woman who understood Chinese and translated for me what the locals were saying. Yet it was nothing compared to what blacks were taught and were saying in public. It's easy to say white male privilege for your hate. If you personally hear, "prejudice" every time "white male privilege is said it's easy to see.
"


Political correctness demands that only Whites be called racist, where have you been ?

And as far as Blacks, ever hear the term "high yellow" ? Yup, the really Black people are not all that fond of the "half breeds" running around. The really Black ones don't even want White Women. Like Whites who want their kids to be White, there are Blacks who want their kids to be Black, and I have absolutely no problem with that. That kind of segregationism, at least in the bedroom is what maintains diversity. Once the entire human race is homogenized the world will be a boring place.

Well, if Clinton gets elected she will probably attack Syria which will start ww3, so with the lower population density we can all be a little bit farther away from each other and that will quell many tensions.

T^T




bounty44 -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 4:59:23 AM)

have you all seen the ridiculous twitter hubbub over a tweet ellen DeGeneres made with a photoshopped picture of her riding on usain bolt's back?




itsSIRtou -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 6:28:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.


Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000.
They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote.


well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass.




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 8:33:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.


Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000.
They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote.


well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass.


To the extent that the Dems don't actually have to do a thing for you because no matter how bad they treat you won't even listen to the GOP so they take care of other groups.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 8:43:59 AM)

bounty44 is talking about

BBC Trending

Why do some people think this meme is racist?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37107541

____________________________

as for what the rest are on about who knows: Hitler obama, bleeding liberals - you sound like trump to me. I

As I pointed out in 7 months American death squads had murdered 700 people
In 12 months in the UK police had fired there guns 7 times

And to me that is the crux of the matter - guns and attitudes to the boomsticks.





vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 9:16:15 AM)

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And interestingly enough, until the Great Sociaty was initiated blacks consistently had higher rates of employment, black families were intact and emphasized education to better themselves. It took just sixty years of liberal empathy to destroy the black culture.


Your comment is misleading because it ignores the history of the black migration north and west following WWII. During the war many blacks were employed in factories but many were still share cropping in the south where everyone in the family picked cotton. A second great migration took place in 1959. The mechanical combine was introduced successfully in the late 1950s and displaced a very large majority of black laborers from the fields. Also Jim Crow was under attack and white violence was conspicuous in the south.

This chart which i published earlier shows the dramatic drop in the black poverty rate from about 55% in 1959 to maybe 32% in 1970. That blows a big hole in your partisan criticism. Unfortunately, many factory jobs went away in the 1960s and the 1974 recession.

You can legitimately blame the liberals for their urban renewal projects and mortgage redlining, which herded blacks into inner cities.

i am not yet aware of what caused the more recent migrations of blacks from out of the inner cities into the "ring suburbs." Maybe multiple causes like fair housing laws enforcement in the burbs and gentrification in the cities contributed. IDK.

But truly, your facile and uneducated partisan comments are pretty silly.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 9:16:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.


Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000.
They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote.


well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass.


How about that Dimocratic President's response to Milwaukee and Louisiana? Did they get him off the golf course yet?




BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 9:17:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.


Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000.
They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote.


well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass.


BTW you never did answer, do you support affirmative action programs?




vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 9:22:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem.


Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000.
They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote.


well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass.


How about that Dimocratic President's response to Milwaukee and Louisiana? Did they get him off the golf course yet?

I just saw a photo of him rowing a boat to save some folks in Baton Rouge. Seriously, FEMA is preparing to send manufacturing housing and other relief materials. What the fuck do you expect the president to do? Oh, maybe he could fly over and look around. Ah shit, that's been done.




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