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vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 2:54:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML History shows who the victims are. Yes, but I think that in some segments of the black community the endless nursing of hatred against whites and anything that smacks of "whiteness" is doing more damage than anything whites ever did or could do. K. I don't know that your statement is true as a generality and i don't know which segments you have in mind. But maybe so. Let me share some history that i have come upon recently. The source is a fairly reputable on-line magazine. Hopefully, you will have time to read the entire article. White riots and pogroms against Black Americans are a fixture of American history. But the corporate news media enables many white Americans’ intentional forgetting and mass amnesia. [LOTS OF SNIPS IN HERE FOR BREVITY] In fact, in the United States, “rioting” and “race wars” against people of color are almost exclusively the domain of white Americans. During the 1863 New York City draft riots, white people ran amok, killing black Americans and destroying the African-American community’s churches, orphanages, businesses and schools. In 1921, over a 24-hour time period, whites destroyed the prosperous black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma. White rioters used machine guns and dropped bombs (in what may be one of the first recorded uses of a plane for that purpose) on the black community. Conservative estimates suggest that at least several hundred black people were killed. In East Saint Louis, whites engaged in a pogrom against the black community. Like Chicago, this was part of the “Red Summers” in which whites attempted to reassert their control and dominance over the black community in the aftermath of World War I. Scholars such as James Loewen estimate that as many as 3,000 black communities were “ethnically cleansed” by white violence and other means of intimidation. Historian Gregory Downs has suggested that as many as 50,000 black Americans were killed by white racial terrorism in the 30 years following the end of the American Civil War. This total may not even include at least 4,000 blacks who were victims of lynchings by whites across the South and other parts of the United States. By most empirical measures (land taken, people killed and number of occurrences—there were 26 white-on-black race riots during the year 1919 alone) white Americans are the country’s most successful, adept and skilled rioters. White America is an expert on rioting and race wars; black America is a neophyte amateur with little to no experience in such matters by comparison. This article was published after the Baltimore incidents. You will notice i left out much of the editorializing. You are an intelligent man. You can make up your own mind. source I would care to know more specifics of what you have in mind.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 3:27:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: Bama The same things happen to whites and blacks, but nobody cares when it happens to whites because that just means the cops are put in an impossible situation, and that doesn't get ratings. Why don't you care, Bama? Why do you assume because you don't care that the other 8.4 billion people on the planet agree with your assessment of their level of care on the subject? Wanna walk the statement back that "nobody" cares or are you going to stick by it and completely discard any other beliefs besides your own very narrow minded one? I don't understand the ratings crack at all. Are you a journalist looking for ratings? I'm not and my compassion certainly isn't predicated on ratings. I do care, I never said otherwise, but a white person killed by a cop doesn't get the ratings that a black person killed by a cop does. You don't seem to follow what I am saying. Coverage follows ratings angry black people burning things down make better ratings that angry white people saying this is wrong and we are going to take whatever legal action we need to. That or the media is biased, take you pick.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 3:30:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML History shows who the victims are. Yes, but I think that in some segments of the black community the endless nursing of hatred against whites and anything that smacks of "whiteness" is doing more damage than anything whites ever did or could do. K. K, does slavery, lynchings and Jim Crow count for little and less in your book? As for BamaD, what part was an exaggeration? Racial hiring practices, profit margins in drug dealing vs jobs requiring a highschool degree? Terry frisk rates and small drug possession charges? You want one really easy way to ease racial tensions? Drug law reform. First, legalize marijuana, allow use, sale and production as long as taxes are paid. Offer rehab with drug tests in lieu of time for small possession of other drugs. And apply logic to restructuring drug scheduling. The crime drop off will be immense, and not just drug crimes but property and violent crimes too. Were you an officer Bama? Or did you just hang out with a lot of cops? I grew up in a law enforcement family, instead of the police I went into the military and after I retired I was an admen guy for the sherrif's department.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 3:33:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: You only see things in terms of race. White people are responsible for all the problems of the black race. You have made it clear you really want the guy the thread is about to have been murdered by the cop because then, even though the cop was also black, you can blame the whole thing on white society, and the rioters are outraged victims, not thugs. Historically, white people have been responsible for the problems of the black race. How can you fucking deny that. Racism is a power dynamic. It is the white race that has historically held power over blacks in the New World and in the African colonies. Fifteen million blacks were transported as slaves to the Americas. You think that's just a bump that will go away if we say oh, hey, sorry about that? As for the kid in this thread. I replied to Marini that i agreed it was probably a righteous shooting. Please stop your stupid lying. No, multiculturalists have called racism a power dynamic so they can be racist against whites and say, "well, since I have no power I'm not racist." Racism has nothing to do with power dynamics, that's total BS. Saying its a power dynamic just makes, and perpetuates, the victimology that ensures the minority problems will never be dealt with. The fact is that whites in this country have changed a a great deal and blacks haven't. They use excuses such as this BS to stay in a place of hate. Things won't change as long as this sort of BS continues to make them victims. This is real racism. Klansmen were most often powerless people who resorted to the scapegoating of blacks to feel like they were somebody. The powerless need racism more than the powerful.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 3:38:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML History shows who the victims are. Yes, but I think that in some segments of the black community the endless nursing of hatred against whites and anything that smacks of "whiteness" is doing more damage than anything whites ever did or could do. K. I don't know that your statement is true as a generality and i don't know which segments you have in mind. But maybe so. Let me share some history that i have come upon recently. The source is a fairly reputable on-line magazine. Hopefully, you will have time to read the entire article. White riots and pogroms against Black Americans are a fixture of American history. But the corporate news media enables many white Americans’ intentional forgetting and mass amnesia. [LOTS OF SNIPS IN HERE FOR BREVITY] In fact, in the United States, “rioting” and “race wars” against people of color are almost exclusively the domain of white Americans. During the 1863 New York City draft riots, white people ran amok, killing black Americans and destroying the African-American community’s churches, orphanages, businesses and schools. In 1921, over a 24-hour time period, whites destroyed the prosperous black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma. White rioters used machine guns and dropped bombs (in what may be one of the first recorded uses of a plane for that purpose) on the black community. Conservative estimates suggest that at least several hundred black people were killed. In East Saint Louis, whites engaged in a pogrom against the black community. Like Chicago, this was part of the “Red Summers” in which whites attempted to reassert their control and dominance over the black community in the aftermath of World War I. Scholars such as James Loewen estimate that as many as 3,000 black communities were “ethnically cleansed” by white violence and other means of intimidation. Historian Gregory Downs has suggested that as many as 50,000 black Americans were killed by white racial terrorism in the 30 years following the end of the American Civil War. This total may not even include at least 4,000 blacks who were victims of lynchings by whites across the South and other parts of the United States. By most empirical measures (land taken, people killed and number of occurrences—there were 26 white-on-black race riots during the year 1919 alone) white Americans are the country’s most successful, adept and skilled rioters. White America is an expert on rioting and race wars; black America is a neophyte amateur with little to no experience in such matters by comparison. This article was published after the Baltimore incidents. You will notice i left out much of the editorializing. You are an intelligent man. You can make up your own mind. source I would care to know more specifics of what you have in mind. And for the last 50 years the rioting has been the other way around. You sound like the people who say that Moslems commit terrorists acts every day but hey Christians are just as bad look at the Crusades. We put an end to anti black riots. We put an end to Jim Crow. It wasn't balck people who did that it was whites. And you want to contenue hating the very white people who put their lives on the line to help blacks. Blacks could level a city and you would say but but a hundred years ago white people did bad things.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 3:53:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: You only see things in terms of race. White people are responsible for all the problems of the black race. You have made it clear you really want the guy the thread is about to have been murdered by the cop because then, even though the cop was also black, you can blame the whole thing on white society, and the rioters are outraged victims, not thugs. Historically, white people have been responsible for the problems of the black race. How can you fucking deny that. Racism is a power dynamic. It is the white race that has historically held power over blacks in the New World and in the African colonies. Fifteen million blacks were transported as slaves to the Americas. You think that's just a bump that will go away if we say oh, hey, sorry about that? As for the kid in this thread. I replied to Marini that i agreed it was probably a righteous shooting. Please stop your stupid lying. And virtually every one of those 15 million were sold to the slavers by blacks in Africa so one step further and the black race was betrayed by other blacks. BTW and you say that it was justified, if he actually pulled a gun, and based on the incrediblely thin evidence we have.

Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 4:09:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML History shows who the victims are. Yes, but I think that in some segments of the black community the endless nursing of hatred against whites and anything that smacks of "whiteness" is doing more damage than anything whites ever did or could do. K. I don't know that your statement is true as a generality and i don't know which segments you have in mind. But maybe so. Let me share some history that i have come upon recently. The source is a fairly reputable on-line magazine. Hopefully, you will have time to read the entire article. White riots and pogroms against Black Americans are a fixture of American history. But the corporate news media enables many white Americans’ intentional forgetting and mass amnesia. [LOTS OF SNIPS IN HERE FOR BREVITY] In fact, in the United States, “rioting” and “race wars” against people of color are almost exclusively the domain of white Americans. During the 1863 New York City draft riots, white people ran amok, killing black Americans and destroying the African-American community’s churches, orphanages, businesses and schools. In 1921, over a 24-hour time period, whites destroyed the prosperous black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma. White rioters used machine guns and dropped bombs (in what may be one of the first recorded uses of a plane for that purpose) on the black community. Conservative estimates suggest that at least several hundred black people were killed. In East Saint Louis, whites engaged in a pogrom against the black community. Like Chicago, this was part of the “Red Summers” in which whites attempted to reassert their control and dominance over the black community in the aftermath of World War I. Scholars such as James Loewen estimate that as many as 3,000 black communities were “ethnically cleansed” by white violence and other means of intimidation. Historian Gregory Downs has suggested that as many as 50,000 black Americans were killed by white racial terrorism in the 30 years following the end of the American Civil War. This total may not even include at least 4,000 blacks who were victims of lynchings by whites across the South and other parts of the United States. By most empirical measures (land taken, people killed and number of occurrences—there were 26 white-on-black race riots during the year 1919 alone) white Americans are the country’s most successful, adept and skilled rioters. White America is an expert on rioting and race wars; black America is a neophyte amateur with little to no experience in such matters by comparison. This article was published after the Baltimore incidents. You will notice i left out much of the editorializing. You are an intelligent man. You can make up your own mind. source I would care to know more specifics of what you have in mind. I get such a kick out of guys like you and this writer. You do realize that all of the things discussed happened one hundred years ago. That's the thing about liberals, you have to have a worst case scenerio so you can involve the government and so you act like stuff is happening now that actually happened a hundred years ago.

Nnanji -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 4:15:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML History shows who the victims are. Yes, but I think that in some segments of the black community the endless nursing of hatred against whites and anything that smacks of "whiteness" is doing more damage than anything whites ever did or could do. K. I don't know that your statement is true as a generality and i don't know which segments you have in mind. But maybe so. Let me share some history that i have come upon recently. The source is a fairly reputable on-line magazine. Hopefully, you will have time to read the entire article. White riots and pogroms against Black Americans are a fixture of American history. But the corporate news media enables many white Americans’ intentional forgetting and mass amnesia. [LOTS OF SNIPS IN HERE FOR BREVITY] In fact, in the United States, “rioting” and “race wars” against people of color are almost exclusively the domain of white Americans. During the 1863 New York City draft riots, white people ran amok, killing black Americans and destroying the African-American community’s churches, orphanages, businesses and schools. In 1921, over a 24-hour time period, whites destroyed the prosperous black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma. White rioters used machine guns and dropped bombs (in what may be one of the first recorded uses of a plane for that purpose) on the black community. Conservative estimates suggest that at least several hundred black people were killed. In East Saint Louis, whites engaged in a pogrom against the black community. Like Chicago, this was part of the “Red Summers” in which whites attempted to reassert their control and dominance over the black community in the aftermath of World War I. Scholars such as James Loewen estimate that as many as 3,000 black communities were “ethnically cleansed” by white violence and other means of intimidation. Historian Gregory Downs has suggested that as many as 50,000 black Americans were killed by white racial terrorism in the 30 years following the end of the American Civil War. This total may not even include at least 4,000 blacks who were victims of lynchings by whites across the South and other parts of the United States. By most empirical measures (land taken, people killed and number of occurrences—there were 26 white-on-black race riots during the year 1919 alone) white Americans are the country’s most successful, adept and skilled rioters. White America is an expert on rioting and race wars; black America is a neophyte amateur with little to no experience in such matters by comparison. This article was published after the Baltimore incidents. You will notice i left out much of the editorializing. You are an intelligent man. You can make up your own mind. source I would care to know more specifics of what you have in mind. I have to laugh VML. If Salon magazine is what you call a fairly reputable magazine you have got to be left of Mao.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 4:42:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem. Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000. They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote. well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass. How about that Dimocratic President's response to Milwaukee and Louisiana? Did they get him off the golf course yet? I just saw a photo of him rowing a boat to save some folks in Baton Rouge. Seriously, FEMA is preparing to send manufacturing housing and other relief materials. What the fuck do you expect the president to do? Oh, maybe he could fly over and look around. Ah shit, that's been done. Yeah, it's been done and Bush caught shit about it because he: Didn't go as soon as the hurricane hit One the hurricane passed, wasn't there fast enough Once he was there, didn't do enough Didn't personally take the money down there Didn't get national agencies involved fast enough The statements above...or some form of them...were all used in attack on Bush in these forums. "Previous presidents have bypassed Louisiana after natural disasters. President George W. Bush was widely criticized after he flew over a flooded New Orleans in 2005. Democrats were especially critical." How long does it need to be before the Messiah gets crap about not showing up? Well apparently, it's FINALLY starting: https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/president-obama-slammed-failing-visit-louisiana-flood-sites-n633541?client=ms-android-verizon http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-halt-vacation-visit-flooded-louisiana-41486200

Kirata -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 4:57:49 PM)
Others having commented on the body of your post, I'll just say this.... We do in fact love or hate our enemies to the same degree that we love or hate ourselves. In the image of the enemy we will find the mirror in which we may see our own faces most clearly. ~Sam Keen, "Faces of the Enemy" There is no emotion more self-destructive than hate, and promoting it benefits nobody. K.

kdsub -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 6:19:45 PM)
Damn you Bama... you racist whitie... THIS is all your damn fault....Get your damn foot of the black man's throat! Butch

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 6:42:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Damn you Bama... you racist whitie... THIS is all your damn fault....Get your damn foot of the black man's throat! Butch Yep though I have never met that black man he clearly had to murder two people because I think white privilage is BS.

kdsub -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 6:47:39 PM)
Vince history is to learn from... not to be tied to with a ball and chain. I am responsible for my actions today not for my great great grandfathers actions in the past. There is a course to follow for the African Americans still suffering from past racism... Education... not police cameras. Butch

Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 7:21:24 PM)
"Klansmen were most often powerless people who resorted to the scapegoating of blacks to feel like they were somebody. The powerless need racism more than the powerful. " That's not how it was in the beginning. Yes it changed. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 7:27:12 PM)
"And virtually every one of those 15 million were sold to the slavers by blacks in Africa so one step further and the black race was betrayed by other blacks. " Whoever said 15 million has to be full of shit. The population of the country in say, 1860 was only about 30 million. Now if you are including indentured servants, who volunteered into it maybe, but actual captured slaves ? Not likely. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 7:31:10 PM)
"Previous presidents have bypassed Louisiana after natural disasters. President George W. Bush was widely criticized after he flew over a flooded New Orleans in 2005. Democrats were especially critical." The fuck do they want him to do, land and go swimming ? I have no love or that motherfucker, but when you criticise someone, keep it real. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/18/2016 7:48:08 PM)
"There is no emotion more self-destructive than hate, and promoting it benefits nobody. " That is what people do not understand. Hate is a choice, like anger. If someone kicks you in the balls you smack them upside the head and fuck their world up. But if you are on the couch and a baby with those baby shoes with the cement soles steps on your balls and it hurts even more you do not get angry and throw the kid across the room. If you can choose it then, you can choose it then. No excuse. Now, there are people in this world who I believe should be shot, starting with their feet, then their kneecaps and then low gut shots and let them belled a while, and later shoot their arms off, pluck out their eyes, burn them with scalding water. but this is simple revenge for the shit they did. There is no anger or hate involved, it is simple justice. Just like if you are in the electric chair, the guy who pulls the switch does not necessarily hate you. Even in war, do you really hate the enemy ? It is likely you know nothing about the enemy, so how can you hate what you do not know ? All you know is we are at war and they are the enemy. If people don't learn not to hate, they will have stomach ulcers and all kinds of physical problems. The mind controls the body. While the body also controls the mind, what you can control is the mind. If you gt a chemical imbalance or whatever that affects your mind that is one thing, but if you are seething with hate that takes over and wrecks the place. But people are not taught to control their emotions, instead they are coddled. I hit him, why, he made me mad, how, he said "______". Sticks and stones may break my bones but... Now, in one city I heard public employees are not allowed to use the term "brownbagers". It refers to people who bring their own lunch to work in a brown paper bag rather than poison themselves with fast food. But some fuck ass bureaucrat said it was offensive. Energize. This place is hopeless. T^T

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 1:00:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "And virtually every one of those 15 million were sold to the slavers by blacks in Africa so one step further and the black race was betrayed by other blacks. " Whoever said 15 million has to be full of shit. The population of the country in say, 1860 was only about 30 million. Now if you are including indentured servants, who volunteered into it maybe, but actual captured slaves ? Not likely. T^T A really good example of lying with the truth. The 15 million figure is misleading. Only about 10% came to the U S. Far more went to the Carribian. And the bulk went to South America. Certain people like to pretend that they all came here which is simple not true.

BamaD -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 5:14:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Telling people they live on a "plantation" because the political party that they support recognizes white male privilege and actively works to try to do something about it,..... Is contributing to the problem. Democrats (officials, not people like you) claimed that Bush II was engaged in in voter tampering because in went to talk to the NAACP convention in 2000. They claimed he was trying to steal THEIR VOTES. The Dems think they own you and your vote. well the Dems DO unashamedly own MY vote because the gop has nothing in their economic, tax & sexual platform I agree with. There are a few other incidences that contributed to it, but to ME the gop & their CONservative factions.... sucks flatulent elephant ass. How about that Dimocratic President's response to Milwaukee and Louisiana? Did they get him off the golf course yet? I just saw a photo of him rowing a boat to save some folks in Baton Rouge. Seriously, FEMA is preparing to send manufacturing housing and other relief materials. What the fuck do you expect the president to do? Oh, maybe he could fly over and look around. Ah shit, that's been done. Yeah, it's been done and Bush caught shit about it because he: Didn't go as soon as the hurricane hit One the hurricane passed, wasn't there fast enough Once he was there, didn't do enough Didn't personally take the money down there Didn't get national agencies involved fast enough The statements above...or some form of them...were all used in attack on Bush in these forums. "Previous presidents have bypassed Louisiana after natural disasters. President George W. Bush was widely criticized after he flew over a flooded New Orleans in 2005. Democrats were especially critical." How long does it need to be before the Messiah gets crap about not showing up? Well apparently, it's FINALLY starting: https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/president-obama-slammed-failing-visit-louisiana-flood-sites-n633541?client=ms-android-verizon http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-halt-vacation-visit-flooded-louisiana-41486200 And after the water recided the mayor stated that New Orleans had been a "chocolate" city and that it would be a "chocolate" city again. Can you imagine the outrage if a white mayor had said the same thing using vanilla instead of chocolate?

vincentML -> RE: Milwaukee Burning (8/19/2016 6:38:44 AM)
quote: And after the water recided the mayor stated that New Orleans had been a "chocolate" city and that it would be a "chocolate" city again. Can you imagine the outrage if a white mayor had said the same thing using vanilla instead of chocolate? Incidentally, the governor of Louisiana was interviewed on TV last night. He had been in contact with the president from the git go but asked him to postpone his visit to the state for a couple of weeks because providing security would take the use of too many first providers who were needed elsewhere and would require blocking off essential roadways.

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