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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Look, the problem is not the liberal/moderate Muslim who does NOT act on certain dogma or doctrine. The problem is the lack of condemnation of the Muslim radicalism. What the west needs to see is more Muslim public condemnation of the goals and tactics of the radicals and such as the fatwas.
We have seen far too little from the Muslim leaders and influential speakers to vocally, publicly and much more vociferously go after those who would actually act on their radicalism. Who condemned a national leader for actually assigning the fatwa (death sentence) on Rushdie ? Nobody. Who from a high position, publicly and with any distinction...condemned the radicals ? Far too few.
The west is dealing with the young and stupid who actually think paradise awaits their martyrdom. It is as much the Muslim leadership that is the problem with almost sanctioning these acts by omission, (silence) when they fail to condemn them.
So no, Islam is not a cancer, Islam is not the problem. As always, it is the leaders who fail to act and to say so, is in no way Islamophobia.
Actually, the real problem with the condemnation of radical Islam is not so much that the leaders of Islamic communities and international Islamic leaders not condemning the acts of terror, it is the fact that when they do, the story is buried so far back in print or only gets a couple of seconds on a tv broadcast.
Seriously, if you read or listen to the "leaders" middle east, no body wants a peaceful solution to the problems in Israel, but if you talk to the people who are suffering the brunt of the violence, the majority wants a peaceful settlement equitable to both sides.
Of course, those who try to show that the Muslim faith is not one of violence and can provide the appropriate passages are called stupid because some jack ass pulls something out of the a book that is not even considered a book of holy scripture by any Muslims other than the fanatics bent on killing everyone.
The religious texts that a good Muslim is supposed to follow are:
Tawrāt or Torah: The religious text of the Hebrew faith.
Zabūr: Christians are real fond of one of these passages, although we usually call it the 23rd Psalm.
Injīl or Gospel: The Injil was the holy book revealed to Jesus, according to the Quran.
The Hadith, which is what many use to prove that Islam is a faith of violence and killing is not one of the required texts for teaching anything. It is nothing more than some persons observations of the Prophet during his life, and more often than not, taken out of context when compared to the rest of the passage in which a verse was taken.
But lets face reality, when it comes to religion, any jack ass can take anything and twist it to justify murder, torture and the senseless acts of violence so common among idiots today.
As for the men and women who become radicalized, it has happened to people and not connected to any religion.
Why did the Nazi party and Hitler gain such a great following in Germany?
Well, for one thing, the Nazi party never had the support of the majority of Germans, contrary to what many think. Hitler became chancellor after forming a coalition to support him in his move to get the title.
Hitler's supporters were disillusioned, and as such, would grab and follow anyone that promised something better. Hitler used the Jews and anti Semitic writings from various sources to prove his point.
The exact same thing that these Leaders of the Islamist movement are doing.
Hell, some of them are going as far back as the crusades for reasons to justify their brand of terrorism.
Of course, when you have non-Muslims who refuse to learn anything about the religion they are condemn as inherently violent and homicidal, using the same out of context passages the Islamist use to justify supporting massive military strikes against 'terrorist' targets (usually with a bunch of noncombatant casualties) which then does nothing more but to prove to some poor slob who just watched his family blown apart by a bomb dropped from an American or some other 'Christian" countries plane that the radicals are right.
Try convincing some 13 year old that the west is not out to kill all Muslims after a Predator strike just killed a radical leader and most of his family who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It aint gonna work.
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