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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/8/2016 7:56:55 PM   
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You so desperate to find somebody you can talk to on your own level that you're hoping somebody else on here will turn out to be a retard as well?
Cute!
Would you like some tissues? They're multi-purpose. They can both wipe away your tears AND plug your bleeding vagina. Who couldn't love a product that useful?!?!?!?



Put the shovel down and step away from the hole.

You are really blowing it here.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/8/2016 8:52:28 PM   
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That is how I got it MrR. That Men who are NOT the Father are bitching about paying for the kid, that the media is picking on the Man for it.

That's one interpretation but I had a different one off the cuff. I'd need to read more to figure out which is right.

My immediate question is, "Why on earth would they ask her to divulge a list of sexual partners. Why not simply do the obvious thing and get a paternity test?"

In any event, given what we know about the quantity of children who's stated paternity is incorrect, it seems blatantly obvious that before extracting vast sums of money from one partner, the other ought to have to prove the claim.


Off the cuff OK, but say you never fucked the broad but you have more money than the actual sire of the kid. So she goes after you for money because you got deeper pockets.

What, does everyone think Women have perfect morals ? I have seen them do some pretty nasty shit, some of it got people killed, but in other news we got one who falsely accused the Father of child molestation. And then another who told her Husband that she had a restraining order against him and then subsequently filed for divorce on the grounds of abandonment. And that is the light stuff, talk about the trouble they start in bars n shit.

A Woman scorn is nothing to play with, get the fuck out and stay out and never talk to her again. Pay your child support. If you ever get her in a dark alley then maybe it is different, but the Man is totally fucked as far as the law is concerned and she WILL use it. And if you refuse the paternity test you are assumed guilty. Usually though if she doesn't have a good job she will want welfare, and THEY will require it. Then if you come up clean you are off the hook for the bastard.

But then in the US here, I used to fix TVs. As such we had TVs operating in the shop. I saw Maury Povich. You did not need sound, if the Man runs away or she starts hitting him (and should have caught a battery charge) then he is the Father. If the Woman runs off crying then he is not the Father. And then I remember one where the bitch has hundreds of tests done and still didn't find the Father. What the fuck, talk about a two bit whore, she was more like a one bit whore. Half a fucking quarter.

And all this shit has one effect on society - smart people do not reproduce. Boy that's going to work out well. I do not want kids. Most people I know do not want kids. And my people are chosen, we don't talk about football and shit like that, we teach each other math and electronics and shit like that. You argue about who should be quarterback or pitcher and breed like rabbits and teach your kids nothing. Yuo bitch because your little Johnny can't read and you type There instead of their and all this, you are only half literate. And you expect half literate teachers to teach them, like the ones making $100,000 a year in Chicago and put out a yearbook with the title "This Is Are Story". A hundred grand a fucking year, when are people going to get the fucking idea through their thick skull that throwing money at a problem is not the solution. When they started paying those "teachers" a hundred grand a year, did they fire them all and start with new ones ? I bet not.

The problem here is that the real problem solvers are not in government, they are working at real jobs. Germany is going to fall into the same shit. right now it is OK, industry knows what to do and government does not tell them shit. But they will. When the schools churn out ore bullies who are asshole know-it-alls they will fall just like we are.

I would do a better job as President than either of these assholes, and I am a dropout. (so was Bob Carver) There are millions of people who also would, maybe do even better than I. How the fuck didn' Merkel get shot after being silenced on the US spying on German emails, even the supposedly secret ones ? Germans almost took over half of Europe and if the Russian revolution would not have happened they would have and there would certainly be an EU, but not like it is today. Ad England would not have voted to exit it after a few short years either.

Everything, EVERYTHING they say or do is suspect. They, and that means EU US, UK, Israel, China, fucking Antarctica, NONE of them them operate in your best interest. Not one person in any government at all.

Get that through your head.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/8/2016 9:00:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		"'And yes you understood it correctly, a paternity test can only be done with the legal consent of the child - without that consent it is illegal, and can not be used as ev..."

How can consent be given by someone who is not of legal age ? Like they cannot consent to sex which means having sex with them is statutory rape. They cannot have a bank account, they cannot contract, they cannot own a car, they cannot own property.

How does that work where you are ?

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/8/2016 9:02:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		" He can't demand a DNA paternity test, but the child can. "

And how does a two year old do that ?

That is pretty much my question.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 2:44:59 AM   
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" He can't demand a DNA paternity test, but the child can. "

And how does a two year old do that ?

That is pretty much my question.

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By his/her legal representatives/legal guardian. In such a case a legal guardianship if not existing is to be established. And while they can not do certain things on their own as you listed they can own property, and inherit.
btw in many of these cases the children are not in kindergarten age but much older average at 12-15ish to my knowledge.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 3:33:16 AM   
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I'm amazed that no Western country has yet to come up with a 'parental contract' to be filled out during pregnancy, wherein involved parties are forced to decline or assume responsibility for the unborn child.

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If the supposed father doesn't wish to sign, he has no parental duties or obligations after birth.
If the mother doesn't wish to sign, the father has the opportunity to claim the child solely, and she doesn't have parental duties or obligations after birth.

...

It would solve almost all the issues in question.



In a way this parental contract exists legally, but you do not sign a piece of paper - it exists from the moment the child is born. And as (biological) father or mother you can not deny your obligations to the disadvantage of the child. You got them from the moment the umbilical cord is cut.


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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 5:31:24 AM   
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From what I've found, it was prior to 2008 that a DNA test required consent of all parties. Since then, the acknowledged father can, indeed, require a paternity test without mom or child's consent.


German Civil Code, Section 1598a allows for the father to require the mother and child to “consent to a genetic paternity test.” (It also allows mom and child similar rights.) So…seems reasonable. However, even if the test proves that the man is not dad, that doesn’t remove paternity. Paternity is removed in a separate action.


Section 1600b states that paternity may be contested within two years. This two year period “commences on the date on which the person entitled learns of the circumstances that argue against the paternity…”’ That, too, seems reasonable. If dad finds out mom had an affair right around conception time, he has a little time to process it and then act on it – if he so chooses.


Once it’s determined that a man is not the actual biological father, then he can sue for back payment of two-years’ worth of maintenance from the biological father. However, Germany doesn’t allow for men who have not been acknowledged as the father to be forced to test. This, too, makes sense. If I’m a man living my life, doing my thing, and someone comes along and tells me I have to submit to a test because some woman somewhere says so? Yeah…no.


A man is acknowledged to be the father by either making that acknowledgment of paternity himself, by being married to mom at the time of the birth, or through the courts. And so, the courts also serve the man who has been determined to not be the biological father and is suing for back payments.


Now, because it’s now against German law to force a man who has not acknowledged paternity through one of the methods above to take a DNA test, how is a man who is suing for these back payments to know who it is he should be collecting from? Enter mom’s sexual history, and the need for it to be revealed in court under this specific circumstance.


There are rights of the child, as has been discussed. But those rights don’t seem to be at the expense of the rights of dad or mom. They come into play if a paternity decision is ruled to be severely harmful to the child (or some such wording). This, too, makes sense. But I’d also like to think that the decision based on this determination would not be made lightly.


If there wasn’t the provision for men who have been falsely playing the role of dad to collect two years of maintenance from the actual biological father, then I would see no reason to force women to list their sexual partners in court. But seeing as that does exist (so the article says), and there’s no way to get a DNA test from someone who has not acknowledged paternity without a court order, naming the name in court seems to be the only way.


The bad: It seems that if someone other than the true biological father acknowledged paternity, then the true father is helpless to do anything about it. Only those in the family unit (mom, dad (acknowledged), or child) can generate discovery into paternity. (Though again, I guess this is in line to not being allowed to randomly require men to take a test to determine paternity. I wonder if/hope there is recourse for this situation.)


German Civil Code

Anxious Fathers Welcome New Paternity Test Law

ETA Mind you, not being German, I might have gotten something wrong, here. Happy to be corrected.



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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 7:08:36 AM   
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From what I've found, it was prior to 2008 that a DNA test required consent of all parties. Since then, the acknowledged father can, indeed, require a paternity test without mom or child's consent.


German Civil Code, Section 1598a allows for the father to require the mother and child to “consent to a genetic paternity test.” (It also allows mom and child similar rights.) So…seems reasonable. However, even if the test proves that the man is not dad, that doesn’t remove paternity. Paternity is removed in a separate action.


Section 1600b states that paternity may be contested within two years. This two year period “commences on the date on which the person entitled learns of the circumstances that argue against the paternity…”’ That, too, seems reasonable. If dad finds out mom had an affair right around conception time, he has a little time to process it and then act on it – if he so chooses.


Once it’s determined that a man is not the actual biological father, then he can sue for back payment of two-years’ worth of maintenance from the biological father. However, Germany doesn’t allow for men who have not been acknowledged as the father to be forced to test. This, too, makes sense. If I’m a man living my life, doing my thing, and someone comes along and tells me I have to submit to a test because some woman somewhere says so? Yeah…no.


A man is acknowledged to be the father by either making that acknowledgment of paternity himself, by being married to mom at the time of the birth, or through the courts. And so, the courts also serve the man who has been determined to not be the biological father and is suing for back payments.


Now, because it’s now against German law to force a man who has not acknowledged paternity through one of the methods above to take a DNA test, how is a man who is suing for these back payments to know who it is he should be collecting from? Enter mom’s sexual history, and the need for it to be revealed in court under this specific circumstance.


There are rights of the child, as has been discussed. But those rights don’t seem to be at the expense of the rights of dad or mom. They come into play if a paternity decision is ruled to be severely harmful to the child (or some such wording). This, too, makes sense. But I’d also like to think that the decision based on this determination would not be made lightly.


If there wasn’t the provision for men who have been falsely playing the role of dad to collect two years of maintenance from the actual biological father, then I would see no reason to force women to list their sexual partners in court. But seeing as that does exist (so the article says), and there’s no way to get a DNA test from someone who has not acknowledged paternity without a court order, naming the name in court seems to be the only way.


The bad: It seems that if someone other than the true biological father acknowledged paternity, then the true father is helpless to do anything about it. Only those in the family unit (mom, dad (acknowledged), or child) can generate discovery into paternity. (Though again, I guess this is in line to not being allowed to randomly require men to take a test to determine paternity. I wonder if/hope there is recourse for this situation.)


German Civil Code

Anxious Fathers Welcome New Paternity Test Law

ETA Mind you, not being German, I might have gotten something wrong, here. Happy to be corrected.




Not correcting, just explaining further.

BGB (Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch, civil code) can be complicated - and conflicting. The time periods in Section 1600b differ for different persons involved; while the father can contest paternity within 2 years after learning about the conflict paternity (Satz 1), the child can for a lifetime. (3 and 6).

You are right: father can file his demand of a DNA testing. It will be decided by the family court. 1598a sentences 2-4. The "child's prerogative" for lack of a better name is sentence 3.
Parental (if unmarried) obligations to the child are Section 1626 and following. In this kind of conflict especially 1628 to 1632 and 1643. (Legal representation asf)

Your "the bad" example fits the situation of desi..'s example of the biological father being the next door neighbour. If the husband legitimizes the child the biological neighbour-father has no means to contest this and has no paternal rights and obligations.

I am no lawyer so I simplified some nuances. A cousin of mine after getting told he was a "cuckoo-father" had all these procedures some years ago, and it was no pleasant business for sure - emotionally still is ...

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 7:21:22 AM   
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Well apparently German law is fucked up like US law, just in a different way.

You people can't criticize Jews either. Start that shit here and there will be a revolution.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 7:31:47 AM   
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I'm amazed that no Western country has yet to come up with a 'parental contract' to be filled out during pregnancy, wherein involved parties are forced to decline or assume responsibility for the unborn child.

...

If the supposed father doesn't wish to sign, he has no parental duties or obligations after birth.
If the mother doesn't wish to sign, the father has the opportunity to claim the child solely, and she doesn't have parental duties or obligations after birth.

...

It would solve almost all the issues in question.



In a way this parental contract exists legally, but you do not sign a piece of paper - it exists from the moment the child is born. And as (biological) father or mother you can not deny your obligations to the disadvantage of the child. You got them from the moment the umbilical cord is cut.




That's the issue exactly though, not always the biological father has the obligations, but there is always 'some dude' who gets them assigned to him.

Women can decided whether or not to keep or abort the child, but a man who wishes to raise his child alone when the woman doesn't want it has no rights.

Likewise women can decide whether or not they want to raise a child which stems from an accidental pregnancy, but the man has no choice in the matter, he will be forced to accept responsibility for the child whether the woman consults him in the matter of keeping it or not.
If she doesn't tell him she's pregnant, she might abort a child he wanted, or could spring parenthood on him unexpectedly 9 months after she last met him for a one night stand.
Likewise she could have the child, and put it up for adoption (forsaking her parental rights/duties) while he might have wanted the child, and never even tell him. It could be years later (or never) that he finds out he has a child he might have gladly raised.

Much of the issues in question stem from the fact that it's women and women alone who decided "Yep you're going to be a dad whether you want it or not" and "Nope, I'm aborting the child you've always wanted and there is fuck all you can do about it".

The fact that a woman can force a man to be a father, whether he wants it or not, also means that she is never faced with the question "Do I really want to bring this child into the world by myself, and raise it and support it by myself?", because she can always force 'some dude' to be involved against his will, if only financially.

Heck she can lie about birth control, and damage condoms purposefully, or later fish a used condom out of the trash and use it, to sucker some guy into being a piggy bank for her if she decided before conception that she wants to be a single mom. Considering all the options women have available to them, men really are at an enormous disadvantage considering that the only non-invasive (and potentially permanent) option towards birth control they have are condoms.

If both parents are required to actively commit towards a child before birth, and have the options to 'adopt out' their parental rights should they not wish to be involved with an unwanted pregnancy, much of these issues would be solved.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/9/2016 12:08:49 PM   
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I'm amazed that no Western country has yet to come up with a 'parental contract' to be filled out during pregnancy, wherein involved parties are forced to decline or assume responsibility for the unborn child.

...

If the supposed father doesn't wish to sign, he has no parental duties or obligations after birth.
If the mother doesn't wish to sign, the father has the opportunity to claim the child solely, and she doesn't have parental duties or obligations after birth.

...

It would solve almost all the issues in question.



In a way this parental contract exists legally, but you do not sign a piece of paper - it exists from the moment the child is born. And as (biological) father or mother you can not deny your obligations to the disadvantage of the child. You got them from the moment the umbilical cord is cut.



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The fact that a woman can force a man to be a father, whether he wants it or not, also means that she is never faced with the question "Do I really want to bring this child into the world by myself, and raise it and support it by myself?", because she can always force 'some dude' to be involved against his will, if only financially.

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Most of what you wrote is not worth a comment - but the paragraph above might show you how much you did not understand at all - because all the discussion (return please to link in post one) is about mothers who - by not naming the father - were indeed facing exactly that question you put so well into words, and decided against "forcing 'some dude'"

btw most of your worries are easily solved by a future mother and a future father discussing together what they want - these things can really help.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/11/2016 9:19:48 PM   
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btw most of your worries are easily solved by a future mother and a future father discussing together what they want - these things can really help.



Yeah, cause that would work perfectly with unplanned pregnancies... oh no wait... it doesn't work at all. Fathers get screwed as a matter of course in those cases, whether they want the kid or not.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/12/2016 10:44:05 AM   
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Most of what you wrote is not worth a comment -
No, you're just basically morally bankrupt and intellectually bereft. Thus, what you lack the reason to counter, you pretend to ignore.

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but the paragraph above might show you how much you did not understand at all - because all the discussion (return please to link in post one) is about mothers who - by not naming the father - were indeed facing exactly that question you put so well into words, and decided against "forcing 'some dude'"
Germany and France legalise cuckoldry by insisting that step-fathers are legally liable for child support for non-biological children. That is very much about forcing some dude - any dude - to pay for a child.

The primary problematic attitude of women like this is the idea that they can either force some guy somewhere (it doesn't matter who) to pay them for raising their own child or that they can ultimately get the government to do so. Which is why women screaming about men's "responsibility" is the height of irony. If a man doesn't consent to fatherhood, then you're a thief or an extortionist. You're not entitled to talk about male "responsibility" when you show every intention of avoiding it yourself.

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btw most of your worries are easily solved by a future mother and a future father discussing together what they want - these things can really help.
That makes no difference. A woman is under no obligation to respect a man's wishes in this and there is no compulsion for her to do so. So discussion is irrelevant. Your attempt to mislabel this as a failure to communicate is simply deception on your part. Pathetic.


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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/12/2016 10:46:23 AM   
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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/12/2016 10:49:43 AM   
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Termy shut the fuck up. Not only am I unimpressed with your inability to follow the fucking discussion, I simply do not give a flying crap what anyone thinks. WhoreMods is a sock-puppet with an axe to grind. If you're too stupid to understand that, then go back to counting on your fucking fingers.


Buy the website and kick me off. Until you do that you can go fuck yourself.

Damn shame I actually agree with you on some shit, but fuck off anyway.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/13/2016 1:03:42 AM   
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Nurse faked DNA test and pretended friend's baby was her own to trick one-night stand walks free from prison

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nurse-faked-dna-test-pretended-4728758

Of course she gets a pussypass for such a horrendous thing.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/13/2016 1:07:35 AM   
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Germany and France legalise cuckoldry by insisting that step-fathers are legally liable for child support for non-biological children. That is very much about forcing some dude - any dude - to pay for a child.



You don't get it, do you?
Step-fathers (not married) are not liable for child support for non-biological children. Even when they did so under the assumption they were biological fathers they can ask for being refunded. Procedures could be less complicated but usually work to the benefit of children as well as "fathers". And if you are married to the mother and declare the children legitimate it is one's own decision.
And it is not only France and Germany where a father is responsible for his children.




Who do you want your blame? The mother? Why not your sperm cell who got you into trouble? Is it the mother's fault not keeping her egg under control?


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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/13/2016 2:26:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Who do you want your blame? The mother? Why not your sperm cell who got you into trouble? Is it the mother's fault not keeping her egg under control? "

Now it comes out.

It was your egg. Work and get a babysitter. You think the Mothers should be able to just collect welfare and child support ? You wanted equality ? No, you wanted special rights.

And as far as being special for having a womb, first of all there are seven billion people on the planet, get a fucking abortion, and second of all Women enjoy sex too.

Keep your legs together, get a steely dan, stay out of the bars.

Maybe it is different where you are but this kind of shit wrecks Men's lives here. The laws are so fucked up that if you get a broad knocked up you might as well just kill yourself. And if I was ever in court for this shit, say I fall on hard times and can't pay child support I would say to the judge "I would be just as fucking broke if I was still with her". They literally, at times order the biological Father to support the Woman and kid better than themselves.

Much as I can't fucking stand religion they do seem to be right on this particular subject. Don't get knocked up if you aren't married, and once married, make sure only your Husband COULD be the Father. It is called fidelity and it builds families of happy, strong and mentally healthy kids. The whole notion has been destroyed. What is this world now, a big Sodom and Gomorah, ot Ninevah or what ? Just all fuck each other all the time (could be taken both ways) with no protection ?

And look at the US - food stamps. Why the fuck do we need food stamps ? Because people will take the public assistance (charity at gunpoint) money and party their ass off, and just let their own kids starve. Jesus fucking Christ. Even animals don't do that.

People are fucking disgusting.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/13/2016 2:39:25 AM   
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Sorry there just ain't no pill for Men. I would probably take it but because of biology the side effect would probably be pretty bad. Being male, looking male and acting male is alot more dependant on testosterone than being, acting and looking like a Woman depends on estrogen.

Don't blame me, I didn't make it that way.

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RE: 'Legislative slut-shaming': How the German 'Cuckoo ... - 9/13/2016 3:31:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


Now it comes out.

It was your egg. ...


Now it comes out: How old are you?
Basic sexual education (all schools, age group 12/13):

For a baby it needs 2 (two, zwei, due, deux, dos ...) things:

1) an egg cell (from mother)
2) a sperm cell (from father)
these 2 meeting and merging will start a process with a baby at the end (if everything works right)


one of them without the other does not work.

Ask your parents and/or teachers to get more details if needed (... most likely)

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