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Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 10:19:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or I want to know about those Israeli "students". Now that Obama is not going to sign the bill to allow the families of those killed to sue Saudi Arabia, they won't be able to sue Israel either. How did they know this was going to happen. They were up there with cameras according to all accounts. They had to have advance knowledge or they would have, supposedly, been in school. Anyone looking into that ? No, they were just quickly deported. And the Arabians who were her got flown back home when all other flights were grounded. Did someone just make that shit up ? Those two facts, if true, are VERY damning. T^T The dancing isrealis? they were interviewed safely after they were across the pond and admitted that they were here to document the event. Proves foreknowledge.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 10:28:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or There are too many people in NYC to say there were no planes. The only way they woudn't have heard them is if they doing supersonic speed, and I am pretty sure they were not cap-able of that. In fact even if they were capable of mach one they could not do it at such a low altitude. And if they were, it is more likely that they would have just cut those buildings in two and could have landed in the ocean. And the top parts of the buildings did not topple down, this is a sideways impact, if I hit you on the right you fell to the left. I agree that too many things do not make sense. I agree that the government let it happen at the very least, and that they let Pearl Harbor happen after antagonizing the Japanes into doing it, just like they antagonized the Arabs to do in the WTC. And the owner of those building doubled up on the insurance shortly before. I know we got fucked and lied to. T, I have searched the net for people who claim to have seen a 757 and the only people who claim to have seen one is tada! 'News media' and where did the majority of them see it? Tada! 'on tv' the first showing of building one impact was the day after the event and then hezerkani WTC 2 several days after. The irony of course is that even the news anchors commented on how fake the so called 'video' evidence is. [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/aboverunders.gif[/img] Here is the over under explosion. Most likely one of the cameras was crosseyed. then if we want to get into 'reality' physics, fuel tanks encased in thin aluminum wings versus steel columns rated at 115kips, the impact of a 757 would have looked like this all the way across the wings.... [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/beer.gif[/img] and what we would have seen is something that looked more like this: [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/molotov_014.gif[/img] instead of this: [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/m04.jpg[/img] its a fertile ground for gubmint posers to lie and misinform anyone who is not well informed across several academic disciplines.

WhoreMods -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 10:30:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne the first showing of building one impact was the day after the event and then hezerkani WTC 2 several days after. Horseshit. They were showing footage on the other side of the Atlantic, on the same day.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 10:47:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers No, like I wrote, nothing will be done about it. Just understand those of us that have serious doubts about what we've been told happened, also...without substantial proof. [sm=banghead.gif] So, no sources for your claims. Just take your word for it. Don't let me see it in print. I'm not even asking for a credible source.... I am asking to see the words you just printed from something... hell, I'd take a bathroom wall at this point. what he said is the gubblemints story is so far out there that it cant be believed even minimally. As an example its 100% impossible for a 47 story building with only superficial damage to fall in its own footprint as is claimed. NIST thought theyd be smart and model it to prove it and all they did was prove it cant happen despite claiming it did at the same time. The the data they used is all secret and to protect us they dont tell us what happened so structural engineers dont make the same mistake in future buildings, hence the crime of 'criminal negligence'. Yet you accept blurry known edited video clips as proof 911 happened exactly as koolaid was served up there were no 47 story buildings with superficial damage that fell. Oh? So you know something NIST didnt? they said that the damage from wtc 1 was superficial refer to and read their nistar report and it was 47 stories [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/wtc7_nist_collapse_floorplan.jpg[/image] and the damage was soooooo superficial that you cant find so much as one pic anywhere, just lip service from nutsuckers claiming it took out half the building when not one so much as 1 column was dinged much less severed. I know something you dont know, retard. If you mean wtc 7, (WTC 1 was 104 floors) they did not say that damage was superficial, nowhere. I read it. You cannot read. You are a cretin and do not understand English or anything else in the real world. Thats a drawing of the 'alleged' damage of building 7, where OOOPS too bad no pictures exist. Isnt that amazing? In the land of the 'IRON CURTAIN', erm.....I mean free, a camera on every damn cell phone and not one picture of the 'ALLEGED' damage sucker. You are wasting your time due to your childishness you are the second person to ever make my ignore list in 20 years, this is all I see: WhoreMods * IGNORED * - 9/20/2016 10:30:08 AM This user is on your "hidden" list and the post has been hidden.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 11:29:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech Hmm, late to the discussion but a few things on the photographs and documentation.... 1> It is "thermite" and not "thermate". The thermite cutter whose patent documents were shown is a more modern update of a "bunker buster" mine developed in Germany during WWI. Thermite charges and thermite lances for cutting structural steel are known technology often used in industry. And, yes, thermite is so easy to make it is crazy. Personal experience note; never teach the class clown how to make thermite. Getting gym doors welded shut during a pep rally was funny, put a true PITA getting the door cut down to get people out. 2> The pictures shown of structural steel show warping consistent with high heat in a structural fire. The pictures show no spalling that would be indicative of thermal cutting with explosives. 3> A detailed engineering evaluation of the structural failure due to aircraft impact would also provide data for actually setting demolition charges to have the same effect. Being devil's advocate; I can see public safety reasons for not releasing the raw data to the general public and only releasing the results of the evaluation. One thing that was an engineering take away from the USS Stark missile hits and the Twin Towers collapse was that structural aluminum warps and fails much faster than steel under structural fire conditions. I frankly don't see enough in the data presented to imply some cover up or conspiracy. No kidding huh? Where in the history of building engineering has there ever been an example of preventing the engineering community who building sky scrapers we are expected to trust, where safe design methods were restricted? I cant believe you said that but I will give you the benefit of a doubt and await your briefing. To this very day NIST has NOT released the data to the engineering community. In which case they are doing precisely the opposite and jeaopardizing public safety, especially since no new design requirements followed? So I await your explanation. Apparenty you did not examine any of the steel, or more importantly do you know what you are looking at when you do? Gas torches were used to cut the downed steel not thermite cutters. [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/steel/thrm.gif[/img] Merc the shit is paper thin and eroded through, exactly what would happen if you used it for a foundry spout to pour molten steel out of a crucible. [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/steel/FSL_2.gif[/img] It would take over 1,000 years in the bottom of the ocean to get this level of corrosion: [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/steel/wheredidtheirongo045.jpg[/img] [img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/steel/wheredidtheirongo044.jpg[/img] and it that is not bad enough, NIST chief engineer poses with one of those pieces of steel, where the prognosis is 'corrosion' which of course is compared to an 'explosive' which is precisely how a thermate cutter cuts or when a beam is used as a channel for pouring molten steel stretching the definition of 'erosion' to the point of ludicrous. [IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/steel035_zpscc4d42fc.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/2012-11-25_18-17-49-718.jpg[/IMG] I think that should be enough for you to get a very clear picture that neither FIRE and the minor building damage were responsible for the collapse, however feel free to play devils advocate if you can. I omitted posting steel where kicker charges were used as these are far better to make a clear point. There are literally countless examples I could post that show we got the goods, and the only ones left with a conspiracy 'theory' is the gubmint, and the rest of us have material evidence proving that NIST is acting as a coverup agency for the painfully obvious. Neither did I post how NIST falsified the column 79 walk off 'theory' which was proven many times over to be entirely impossible, yet that is how they explained wtc7 collapse, purely fraud, which is the real reason they wont release the data from their investigation. 9/11 rates top shelf as the most fantastic lie ever forced upon the people, second only to ww2 issues. So you have a lot of advocating to do [8\|].

MrRodgers -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 11:58:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne the first showing of building one impact was the day after the event and then hezerkani WTC 2 several days after. Horseshit. They were showing footage on the other side of the Atlantic, on the same day. The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. That's why others were seeing it so soon. However, in the US, it was much later and unless anyone in the US was looking for it fro foreign sources, they didn't see the 1st plane recording in US on MSM until the next day. Oh and I watched a NIST presentation on TV and it took only a few minutes for several in the audience...to walk out.

mnottertail -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:02:23 PM)
Oh, no it wouldnt take that long at sea to get that corrosion, and there is no independent credible citation of what that scrap metal is. The WTCs were in salt air. Cement is on a scale of -14 to +14 acid to alkaline a 12 or 13 alkaline. Nothing there shows up like its thermite cut.

WhoreMods -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:05:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. That's why others were seeing it so soon. However, in the US, it was much later and unless anyone in the US was looking for it fro foreign sources, they didn't see the 1st plane recording in US on MSM until the next day. Oh and I watched a NIST presentation on TV and it took only a few minutes for several in the audience...to walk out. So there's a massive media conspiracy to pretend that planes hit the twin towers rather than them being destroyed by the Emperor Ming's death rays because NBC were too bloody slack to buy video footage from the Beeb?

MrRodgers -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:14:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. That's why others were seeing it so soon. However, in the US, it was much later and unless anyone in the US was looking for it fro foreign sources, they didn't see the 1st plane recording in US on MSM until the next day. Oh and I watched a NIST presentation on TV and it took only a few minutes for several in the audience...to walk out. So there's a massive media conspiracy to pretend that planes hit the twin towers rather than them being destroyed by the Emperor Ming's death rays because NBC were too bloody slack to buy video footage from the Beeb? Well I said nothing of the sort. All I gave was why a video of the 1st plane hitting was available for viewing outside the US and wasn't picked by US MSM until the next day. The rest is your blather.

WhoreMods -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:18:43 PM)
That was aimed more at conspiracy boy than at you.

stef -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:36:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or More enlightenment from stef. T^T we always have party on those rare occasions stef has something germane to say. lol You guys are ODing on your irony supplements. If only we could get you to take your anti-psychotics as regularly.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 12:50:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or More enlightenment from stef. T^T we always have party on those rare occasions stef has something germane to say. lol You guys are ODing on your irony supplements. If only we could get you to take your anti-psychotics as regularly. Be honest stef youre just lonely and want company, no doctor would be that unethical.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 1:10:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. That's why others were seeing it so soon. However, in the US, it was much later and unless anyone in the US was looking for it fro foreign sources, they didn't see the 1st plane recording in US on MSM until the next day. Oh and I watched a NIST presentation on TV and it took only a few minutes for several in the audience...to walk out. So there's a massive media conspiracy to pretend that planes hit the twin towers rather than them being destroyed by the Emperor Ming's death rays because NBC were too bloody slack to buy video footage from the Beeb? Well I said nothing of the sort. All I gave was why a video of the 1st plane hitting was available for viewing outside the US and wasn't picked by US MSM until the next day. The rest is your blather. Thats why the asshelmet is: WhoreMods * IGNORED * - 9/20/2016 12:18:43 PM This user is on your "hidden" list and the post has been hidden. Despite the media put up false videos as far as know they did not violate any statute that we are capable of prosecuting them under, therefore were not involved 'directly' in any conspiracy. Asshelmets are none the wiser of course, and their job out here is to simply restate everything said that proves LIHOP/MIHOP to convert the incontravertible to debatable. Since as long as the world is arguing what is a fact too much time goes by to launch an effective prosecution. They need an idjit audience to successfully accomplish that however. The media produced several videos that were false where one of the helicopter pilots fucked up when slight movement of the helicopter moved the masking and resulted in the famous nose out video which of course is impossible to even the most ignorant. They cant even get the false videos that they made correct, since they never show a direct shot of the plane entering like the hezrkani and a couple others, its always behind a building, and if that isnt fucked enough some show the alleged plane diving some show the alleged plane flat out, and if thats not bad enough right from people that worked at boeing a 757 needs about 6 times the horsepower to go the claimed 586 mph which MIT calculated was the speed needed to actually go into the building which they bumped up from the first reports of 300 mph. As you can see the dipshit has nothing to offer the thread outside condescending useless bullshit.

WhoreMods -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 1:25:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne As you can see the dipshit has nothing to offer the thread outside condescending useless bullshit. The BBC broadcast footage of al queda demolition project back on the eleventh of september 2001, almost as it happened. Now, I'm aware that your conviction that there were no planes anywhere, and the lists of the passengers on those nonexistant planes who died are fictions renders you incapable of accepting a basic fact that can be proven with five minutes on google, but if you're going to whine about "condescending useless bullshit" then I suggest that you raise your own game a little.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 1:51:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne the first showing of building one impact was the day after the event and then hezerkani WTC 2 several days after. Horseshit. They were showing footage on the other side of the Atlantic, on the same day. The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. That's why others were seeing it so soon. However, in the US, it was much later and unless anyone in the US was looking for it fro foreign sources, they didn't see the 1st plane recording in US on MSM until the next day. Oh and I watched a NIST presentation on TV and it took only a few minutes for several in the audience...to walk out. Well the isrealis made a special trip here to "film the event". so they were 'very' 'very' lucky indeed! [img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/mypbemotes/wtc%201/dablob_zpsi5tzwvhb.png[/img] So we are supposed to believe that is a plane? Taken by a professional camera crew who uses professional camera equipment? For real? Then even after someone doctored the shit out it you can see the explosion from the building prior to contact with the nose! LOL [IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/naudethitbs6.gif[/IMG] As I said before you need an incredible imagination to believe that is a fucking plane as I posted earlier even the cheapest shit cam gives crystal clear video of a plane 5 miles away on a bright sunshiny day. Hell my antique cheap assed 300buck sony handy cam stop framed a 1500ft/sec bullet on a bright day. We live in a world full of liars and suckers. Go back and check out the clip showing the alleged 'plane' explosion coming out the undamaged sides of the building first INSTEAD of the gaping hole. I know of no physics where that is possible. I am not going to continually post the string of clips proving the point over and over because these ass helmets want to pretend their arguments are anything more than frivolous waste of everyones time. They sold everyone wooden nickels. You wont find anyone who can get past the hard evidence with grounded reasonable explanations, they always divert to 'look at the crying mothers' shit because they know we got em by the balls LOL [8D]

mnottertail -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 2:11:59 PM)
you have not proved a single point with your little gifs and nothingness. youve posted them for years and never did anything but appear mentally unbalanced. Dont forget your long drawn out dowels, paper and washers with capguns or whatever the fuck thing you had going on. Nope, I think the posse comitatus is dethroning you. alloidal-foef-magnacharta-gubbmint-whatever the fuck sort of hallucination of the day is.

Real0ne -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 5:09:23 PM)
so indignant when you get your ass handed to you! LOL Here snotty, looksie, shitterstein, while in isreal admitted that HE had foreknowledge of the holocaust prior to april 2000. go to the 19:00 mark

subfever -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 5:28:13 PM)
9/11 explained in 5 minutes. (FR)

Rule -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 7:30:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers The recording of the 1st plane was taken by a BBC crew doing a documentary and just got very lucky. There were no planes, so that documentary must be a fraud. Only two planes took off, not four, and none flew into any buildings.

stef -> RE: 15 Year Anniversery of the 9/11, The fraud lives on! (9/20/2016 7:46:04 PM)
Rule, climb back into whatever tard hole you've been living in the past few months. We already have enough conspiracy theory window lickers here.

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