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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 5:16:02 AM   
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they don't always make laws for things you can do Einstein. your point is equivalent to saying "show me a law that says I have a right to breathe or eat."

although little doubt you'll find some personal and ridiculous esoteric distinction on which to hang your hat so you can continue to practice your malevolent pseudo-superiority, here you go vile critter parts:

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Freedom of movement under United States law is governed primarily by the Privileges and Immunities Clause of the United States Constitution which states, "The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States." As far back as the circuit court ruling in Corfield v. Coryell, 6 Fed. Cas. 546 (1823), the Supreme Court recognized freedom of movement as a fundamental Constitutional right. In Paul v. Virginia, 75 U.S. 168 (1869), the Court defined freedom of movement as "right of free ingress into other States, and egress from them."[1] However, the Supreme Court did not invest the federal government with the authority to protect freedom of movement. Under the "privileges and immunities" clause, this authority was given to the states, a position the Court held consistently through the years in cases such as Ward v. Maryland, 79 U.S. 418 (1871), the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) and United States v. Harris, 106 U.S. 629 (1883).[2][3]...

As early as the Articles of Confederation the Congress recognized freedom of movement (Article 4), though the right was thought to be so fundamental during the drafting of the Constitution as not needing explicit enumeration.[4]...

A strong right to freedom of movement may yet have even farther-reaching implications. The Supreme Court has acknowledged that freedom of movement is closely related to freedom of association and to freedom of expression...

For much of American history, the right to travel included the right to travel by the vehicle of one's choice, and courts occasionally struck down regional regulations that required licenses or government permission to travel on public roadways. With the advent of the automobile, however, courts began upholding laws and regulations requiring licenses to operate vehicles on roadways. Constitutional scholar Roger Roots has referred to the forgotten right to travel without license as "the orphaned right."[19]

The right to travel is a part of the 'liberty' of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. If that "liberty" is to be regulated, it must be pursuant to the law-making functions of the Congress. . . . . Freedom of movement across frontiers in either direction, and inside frontiers as well, was a part of our heritage. Travel abroad, like travel within the country, . . . may be as close to the heart of the individual as the choice of what he eats, or wears, or reads. Freedom of movement is basic in our scheme of values.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law

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The Right To Travel

As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, 98-97 (1999), the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel (except for members of Congress, who are guaranteed the right to travel to and from Congress). The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.


http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#travel

and there we have it. no right to travel in law. But in terms of the doing so, it appears that the right to travel, as well as the right to freely associate is a privilege extended to groups, since there are many in the US who have no such rights. And I will say again this it is now thought (by whom?) that the Congress never discussed it in any way shape or from in creating the Constitution, therefore it could have only been thought so by magic. And of course felons cannot own arms, and voter ID is unconstitutional. And bear in mind, they don't always make laws for things you can do. Remember you said that. And nowhere have I said that such laws are enumerated, nor necessary to enumerate, so you remain in the constant state that if understanding English was your job, you would be fired, if you were in school to understand English you would be flunked, and never allowed in the school again.

Your strawmen (never more than mediocre) are absolutely atrocious, Adolph

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:20:55 AM   
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and there we have it. no right to travel in law.
Your strawmen (never more than mediocre) are absolutely atrocious, Adolph



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Aticles of Confederaton:

Article IV. The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different States in this union, the free inhabitants of each of these States, paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several States; and the people of each State shall have free ingress and regress to and from any other State, and shall enjoy therein all the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions, and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof respectively, provided that such restrictions shall not extend so far as to prevent the removal of property imported into any State, to any other State, of which the owner is an inhabitant; provided also that no imposition, duties or restriction shall be laid by any State, on the property of the united States, or either of them.



Law is only for people that are literate and have comprehension skills above that of an amoeba, one thing snotty does well is make a total ass out of himself.





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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:28:29 AM   
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what law are the articles of confederation? Oh, thats right, it aint law, and it ain't constitution. its masturbatory grist for imbeciles such as yourself. Is it in the code of Hammurabi? Does anyone truly give a fuck? Repeat, aint law, and aint nothing to do with THIS country.

Real Zero makes a total retard out of his totally retarded self.



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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:29:10 AM   
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find me one law that says travel is a right.

Well :

"As early as the Articles of Confederation the Congress recognized freedom of movement (Article 4), though the right was thought to be so fundamental during the drafting of the Constitution as not needing explicit enumeration.[4]"

From : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_United_States_law

Like the income tax there is no law but it is presumed. It is another bunch of bullshit you live under and believe. You go right ahead and run that pawn shop and you know what ? You will get robbed by your own customers.

Have fun. They might take a torch to your balls to get you to open the safe. I would pay good money for a video of that.

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Oh you know about that huh? Yeh title 26 was never enacted, just enforced at the end of a barrel of a gun. There are several more laws that are actually illegitimate because they do not meet procedural prescription. The 14th being one of them.







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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:31:36 AM   
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The fools tread where fools fear to tread today.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:40:58 AM   
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what law are the articles of confederation? Oh, thats right, it aint law, and it ain't constitution. its masturbatory grist for imbeciles such as yourself. Is it in the code of Hammurabi? Does anyone truly give a fuck? Repeat, aint law, and aint nothing to do with THIS country.

Real Zero makes a total retard out of his totally retarded self.




and captain asshelmet strikes again!



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Article I.

The Stile of this Confederacy shall be

"The United States of America".



Thanks snotty, its nice to know that the "The United States of America" does not exist!

Get back on your meds before you blow all your fuses.

what a fucking legal imbecile



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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:45:17 AM   
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The arrangement of steps that allow people to climb over a fence is the United States of America? And what does it have to do with law or the constitution? Oh, yeah. Nothing.
You are the only one who has said the United States doesn't exist in your typical shiteslobbering way.

Thanks for bolding the part where I point out you are a pathetic retard though, and doubling down on the proof of it personally like you always do, Corporal Asshelmet.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:58:35 AM   
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FR

Moderator eleven. Could you please beat Ron to death and provide us with a video of it ?

T^T

LOL

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 7:59:55 AM   
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FR

Moderator eleven. Could you please beat Ron to death and provide us with a video of it ?

T^T

LOL

Maybe you guys should come out of your closets and film one of your circle felches and post it, god knows you do them constantly.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:00:07 AM   
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troll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSgj472Y6iY

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:06:35 AM   
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LOL, you fucking dildo. You are the troll. And the retard. And the imbecile. And the cretin. And the moron. And the useless piece of shit.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:47:58 AM   
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Aw having another bad butt-day are ya?
I told you to take your meds and behave, but do you listen, no.





Dont worry Dr Real will fix you right up!

https://www.ruindays.com/products/butthurt-care-package





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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 9:23:17 AM   
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Not me. you are the one taking it in the ass all day, dumbass.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 6:16:10 PM   
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Moderator eleven. Could you please beat Ron to death and provide us with a video of it ?

T^T

LOL


bunches of his recent posts on another thread or two have been removed. but alas, he is still here.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:00:41 PM   
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And alas you are still here. You are a waste of bandwidth. I notice far more posts of yours than mine have been removed.


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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:07:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

Moderator eleven. Could you please beat Ron to death and provide us with a video of it ?

T^T

LOL


bunches of his recent posts on another thread or two have been removed. but alas, he is still here.


To avoid overwoking anyone he should have his own moderator.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/16/2016 8:11:33 PM   
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Well welfare patient, you aint never worked in your life, and you guys got your own circle felch so that makes you nutsuckers warm and happy.

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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/17/2016 3:04:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

Moderator eleven. Could you please beat Ron to death and provide us with a video of it ?

T^T

LOL


bunches of his recent posts on another thread or two have been removed. but alas, he is still here.


To avoid overwoking anyone he should have his own moderator.


I notice his foul-spirited twin has been absent for ~ a couple of weeks. I wonder if he's been temporarily banned. would that it would happen to vile critter parts too; the place would be better.


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RE: Purposeful Confusion? - 9/17/2016 5:10:34 AM   
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Well, felchgobbler44, I guess thats just more proof that there is no god. The place would be excellent if they permanently banned you, and all the other deplorable nutsuckers.

Hell, the overwhelming number of you cant speak or understand English anyhow.



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