Termyn8or
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well then make arms safety a mandatory class in school, how hard is that?
While I agree I woud like to point out something. I was a little kid and present when my Uncles taught my Aunt how to shoot. They bought her a gun, maybe for her birthday or something, not sure.
Back then we had newspapers and they got recycled once in a while at the local school. They taught her how to shoot into a bag of newspapers so there would be no ricochet. All you have to do is take a pen and make some circles on it.
But the point is I was very young and I was there. I heard the bang and saw the hole it made. they WANTED me to see that, and that is logical. From back then was the basis of me taking this shit seriously.
So Real, what should the kids be taught when ? With certain recent incidents I think at a very early age kids should be exposed to a gun and see it fire and see it destroy something and be taught at least not to touch it. Maybe even in kindergarten. Have a room in the school made for this and shoot off the gun and let them get scared, maybe even shoot a small animal but I am not so sure of that and many people are not likely to support it. We might cause a movement like those against sex ed. But at least one time to let them know, at six years old or whatever, so they know not to touch it and go get an adult.
Then later, proper handling. Then they get taught the different type, breach loaders whatever, and at the very least have to know how to unload it and make it safe. That means clearing the chamber. this is when they are older and you have all major types of firearms there and to graduate they have to know how to unload and clear all types.
After they pass that then there should be marksmanship, but that should probably be elective. Some people are simply never going to have a gun so there is no need to force them through that. But if they are, they should not shoot randomly or have very bad aim. Kids watch movies and think they can shoot from the hip. That is a VERY hard thing to do. you got a chance at "ten paces" but to anyone else there you are too dangerous at greater range.
Back to the spirit of the Constitution on this. Compare to driving a car. Now they call it a privilege even though the right to travel freely is considered a right. People tried that defense to drive without a license. (I don't bother, I just don't speed) But the argument is that the roads are public ad they are responsible for public safety, which accounts for why traffic rules are enforced by law. And I DO mean rules because we all have to agree on which side of the street to drive, and that red means stop, and who has the right of way in a given situation. (peoplle are very ignorant on that last part, especially when it cones to left turns)
But since they are in charge of the roads, I guess they can require a license. Also on private property norally used by the public, like a store parking lot. However you can drive on a dragstrip or other racetrack without a license. you can drve on your own propertty as long as it is not open to the public.
But my person and my gun are not public. They might be able to regulate how and where I can carry it openly but they can't stop me because the Constitution says so. And unfortunately that means crazy people and whatever. But you cannot pick and choose the clauses in the Constitution and claim to support it. If you support the first, you must support all ten of the Bill Of Rights.
And, felons need to be defined better. I know a guiy convicted of vehicular manslaughter, involuntary. for the rest of his life he can't have a gun ? There are people who simply sold a bag of weed, and they can never have a gun ? there are people who drove home from work and three times got picked up driving home from the bar, even though they were not too drunk but got a DUI and they can never have a gun ?
In a way this is like capital punishment. I believe that capital punishment is right for certain crimes, but really folks, do it at home. Don't let the government do it because they fuck everything up. Look up George Stinny Jr. And he probably didn't even do it. The power is yours and ought to be. In your kitchen, hallway, bedroom or garage or whatever. This government is not fit to have the power over life and death. They are too corrupt and biased. Even the cops.
You know they say that cops shoot more Blacks and it can be retorted that Blacks commit more crimes and are maybe more likely to get an attitude with the cops, charging the or pulling a gun on them, and that has created a stereotype and thus deadly prejudice. But for one, more Blacks shoot Blacks than cops do. Ad cops like to go home after work, have diner and fuck their olady. And they are scared. they got good reason. Wait intil Whitey gets after them, there won't be any left in about a week because we got the brains.
But they do ot shoot as many Whites, know why ? Whe I get stopped I grab my wallet and hold it and put my hands on the wheel and make sur the window is rolled all the way down so they can see.
This is simple logic because THEY GOT A GUN. What's more they are licensed to kill you. I am starting to get against BLM because it is starting to look like they want cops just to let themselves get shot.
But I do know there are bad cops out there. Come on, with that little kid, if a little kid was pointing a gun at me I would move very fast and snatch it out of his hand. In fact I did that. '
I got shot in the face in 1985. I didn't drive at the time and after I rcovered I went back to work, o the bus. Som kid pointed a toy gun at me and I was still pretty fast (i could spar with one hand letting the other guy use both) and he started crying. Hisw Mother was right there and started to say something and I said "Look, I just got shot last month, see this ?> It is from a .38. If you don't teach that kid right he might get himself killed". Really, when kids play in the yard with toy gins it is one thing, but the kid the cops shot was not in the yard. I a all for them having war gaes n shit, but not in public.
Now when we get to the crooked cops, hang them by their fucking testicles. And I don't even mena the oes who will take a bribe, sell confiscated guns or let a ticket get fixed, I mean the ones who kill when it was not necessary.
Speaking of confiscated guns, we used to buy them off the cops at the bar. People who weren't supposed to have them were happy not to get busted for it and the cop walked in to Frank's bar with a suitcase full of guns. the olman bought one, and then sold it at a profit real quick. Cop came back later and the olman told him, cops asks to whom ? So he tells the cop and the cop goes and busts the dud, takes the gu ad brings it back to the olman.
See this is the kind of shit that taught me how crooked people are. Most people have never been exposed to shit like this. I have. My Father was the black sheep of a good family and made him such a life, ad I was i it. I ran a fencing operation for a time. He used to run a chop shop and his crowd doubled the value of Corvettes. They sold the engines and trannies mostly and this big Black guy named Otha came with an axe and busted apart the bodies and put them on his pickup truck. They got busted when I was like one year old because this wimpy asshole named Calvin turned on them. But Calvin did not know how to pick a lawyer and did the most time, even after testifying against everyone else.
i know how the government is. Know what else ? you know that witness protection program ? It is a bunch of shit. those people have the life expectancy o a fucking tse tse fly. And you will never hear about it. how could you if it is secret ? If you ever turn state's evidence, just stay where the fuck you are, NEVER enter the witness protection program, it is practically suicide. You are better off surrounding yourself with friends, and staying tough. I know someone who turned state;'s evidence against his roomie, who shot someone in the back because he was pissed off at him. This guy also caught him sleeping and busted out his front teeth with a soda bottle, they were glass back then. And then this, of course I am testifying. And he didn't move or anything but they did notify him when Wacko got out. the perp's name is Macko, they call him Macko the Whacko. and criminal organizations, of which there are very few and much smaller than the big one, the US governemnt, they are now conected enough to not even worry about it. You teastify againsta me, i testify againsta you. And people disappear all the time and now that the government is how it is, people assume the government did it.
The Clintons know all about this shit. If they approached me for some special talent, seriously I do not know if I have the balls to refuse them. i might just take the money, but it better be alot of money. I mean ALOT of money.
I was made an honorary Italian by saying two words i court ad taking the punishment for it. I am fairly well protected from the governments in this county. They never forget when you fuck them and they never forget when you do right by them. When in the back of that police car, there are flags on the computer. They also automatically know if you are CCW or PTG (police training graduate) and most of your criminal record. Then they use discretion. they haven't taken me to jail at all in a long time, at least and make me bail out. This all came about after I said those two words.
but they bust someone else, they tear the car apart searching it. Fuck, they busted me one time and towed my Buick (damn did that thing have a good stereo) and when I got it out my beer was still there.
But don't get me wrong. Just because I have benefited from corruption it does not mean I condone it. Maybe in the past but I really don't do anything illegal anymore except once in a while smoke some pot.
In fact it has been a while and is about time, i got some in the garage, also known as the Man cave. And if the cops come and say "What is that I smell ?" I will say "Lumber". But they are not coming. If they come once they will never come again. No, I won't ill them, butt i will let the drag e through the court and challenge jurisdiction and all that. tehy will spend a million dollars to collect a hundred buck fie and then put me in jail for not paying it and have to give me medical care for free, and that IS at their expense. The first time they fuck with me will be the last. I taught Cleveland their lesson and I can teach Parma that lesson just as well, in fact even better these days because my health has gone some downhill.
Fukum, fukum and BTW fukum. I am to the point almost where I would have to kill someone to go to jail and even the if I do it on this property I still might not go.
I would be an idiot to move.
The only problem is no good jobs. I used to make over $30,000 under the table cash. I didn't get it but I could have gotten a food card for $200 a month. Shit, I don't even eat $200 worth of food a month. What do you have to do, buy all premade meals like TV dinners of the good brand or all filet mignons or what ?
But I have still never shot anyone or even had to pull a gun on them. Even when i got shot I was too drunk to carry my bun, I went to the bar. i went there to get fucked up so of course I did not take it. Shit happened. One time out of ten thousand or whatever. But if I ever do pull my gun it is the last thing someone will see because I do not fuck around, just like the cops. And I drive (drove) like the too. I know how much stress I am putting on a tie rod in a curve at 85 MPH, I know WTF I am doing about that.
At this point in life, after the black mold I am done. I am weak and truthfully losing my marbles. My mental acuity is not what it once was. Reverse engineering in electronics, though it was easier in the past, is alot harder for me now. And I can't see for shit, I no longer have that super steady hand. But in the day, a cop would be not match for me. I worked out and sparred with someone who was very good. Back then I could knock you out when you were standing behind me. Maybe Frank Dux can do that but how many others. It took three guy to kick my ass. Now, I have to be polite but not on the internet. But then, I can still shoot,. that is the equalizer.
These seven foot thugs, let;s forget about me, how about my Mother, or yours ? Without guns they have the advantage and can take from you what they want. Do these liberals think that is OK ? Of course they do, as long as it doesn't happen to them.
Enough.
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