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Nnanji -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 1:23:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: klmpong



------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfBBnM1Il1w ----------------------------

enough said!.............to the sane anyway.

Certainly many, many unanswered questions but what do those 1500 expert architects and engineers know let alone the remaining 25,000 professionals who question the official version ? Certainly the bloggers just in this forum know much more than they do.

Just like the pilots organizations on the obvious discrepancies of those flights...what do they know about say, the attack on the pentagon ? They're just career professional pilots, that's all.

I mean let's get real here, do we believe these otherwise honest, everything to lose and nothing to gain professionals or a lying, delaying, obfuscating, obstructionist govt. whose principals and friends all got just what they wanted and made million$ on 9/11 ?

It's obvious these wackos are just spinning their version of a crazy conspiracy theory unlike the US govt.'s own version of an even...crazier conspiracy theory.

I mean you've just got to go with Bush, Chaney, the CIA, FBI and the neocons...right ? I mean didn't the admin. at the time always demonstrate their complete honesty, integrity and righteousness for all 8 years ?

Nope, the OP is correct, you...cannot be serious about 9/11 at all.

Do you have a citation for those 25,000 professionals or what the unanswered questions are that those professionals raised?




Rule -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 1:30:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
I already know why the towers did not topple and just crush a bunch of buildings around there, there is always a demolition system built in.

I agree. The WTC7 one was especially nifty.




MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 1:58:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: klmpong



------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfBBnM1Il1w ----------------------------

enough said!.............to the sane anyway.

Certainly many, many unanswered questions but what do those 1500 expert architects and engineers know let alone the remaining 25,000 professionals who question the official version ? Certainly the bloggers just in this forum know much more than they do.

Just like the pilots organizations on the obvious discrepancies of those flights...what do they know about say, the attack on the pentagon ? They're just career professional pilots, that's all.

I mean let's get real here, do we believe these otherwise honest, everything to lose and nothing to gain professionals or a lying, delaying, obfuscating, obstructionist govt. whose principals and friends all got just what they wanted and made million$ on 9/11 ?

It's obvious these wackos are just spinning their version of a crazy conspiracy theory unlike the US govt.'s own version of an even...crazier conspiracy theory.

I mean you've just got to go with Bush, Chaney, the CIA, FBI and the neocons...right ? I mean didn't the admin. at the time always demonstrate their complete honesty, integrity and righteousness for all 8 years ?

Nope, the OP is correct, you...cannot be serious about 9/11 at all.

Do you have a citation for those 25,000 professionals or what the unanswered questions are that those professionals raised?

In that link




Nnanji -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 2:50:07 PM)

So nothing but tin foil hats. Okay.




Real0ne -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 3:09:17 PM)

Odd, I dont see you in my hard evidence thread gittin it done. [8|]

That and one person posted a link to several phds who scorn the official story and point out its a farce and a hoax upon the people and in that group are several pe's so what materials have you examined that you think qualifies you to comment, or is this devolving into a 'my expert is better than your expert' childish shit slinging contest as these kinds of discussions usually do?




Real0ne -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 3:25:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I still want to know who called all the people to tell them to take off that day

I still want to know about the "Israeli students" who took a video of it.

I still want to know why everyone forgot about 1993.

I already know why the towers did not topple and just crush a bunch of buildings around there, there is always a demolition system built in.

T^T

If you understand anything about structure fires then you know the buildings did exactly what a hot fire does to a structure. The idea there was a demolition system is far fetched. I'd need to see a citation. You could note that the towers were built just after asbestos was banned because of all of the lawsuits against it. The insulation was no where near what asbestos of the day or insulation of today would be. The fires, fueled with wing tanks full of jet fuel, just melted the structural steel and the building floors collapsed on each other as any fire fighter would have predicted.



Oh now I see why you are in this thread since I proved in the material evidence thread in which I go over the physics how over the top absurd that loony misinformation is and you freaking believed it!

hell I suppose this guy isnt qualified to opine either



[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/4dumdebunkers/wtc%20planes/lear_002_zpsw74ecakz.jpg[/img]

do you think he would say that because he did not snort enough cocaine with blond haired strippers the day before?






Nnanji -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 4:47:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Odd, I dont see you in my hard evidence thread gittin it done. [8|]

That and one person posted a link to several phds who scorn the official story and point out its a farce and a hoax upon the people and in that group are several pe's so what materials have you examined that you think qualifies you to comment, or is this devolving into a 'my expert is better than your expert' childish shit slinging contest as these kinds of discussions usually do?

If you look, I made no comments about the event. I commented on obviously tin foil hat links. Also, why would you assume you'd see me in your "hard evidence thread" getting it done or otherwise?




Real0ne -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 5:11:27 PM)

so then you feel all those phd's and pe's are not qualified to comment on the subject but you are qualified to label it tin foil. What makes you think you are qualified? Especially since they are qualified to do material analysis. Just making shit up it appears.






MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 6:56:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

So nothing but tin foil hats. Okay.

If that reply was to me, there is a whole lot more in that link than the govt. gave. All the govt. did was 'tell' us was essentially, take our word for it and establish commities and commissions that then also just told and while disclosing little or no science.

The engineers and architects world-wide have a whole lot more than just more tin foil hat stuff.

But that's OK because as we all know, if there is anything anyone does not want to believe, then...it's not true.




MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 7:30:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I still want to know who called all the people to tell them to take off that day

I still want to know about the "Israeli students" who took a video of it.

I still want to know why everyone forgot about 1993.

I already know why the towers did not topple and just crush a bunch of buildings around there, there is always a demolition system built in.

T^T

If you understand anything about structure fires then you know the buildings did exactly what a hot fire does to a structure. The idea there was a demolition system is far fetched. I'd need to see a citation. You could note that the towers were built just after asbestos was banned because of all of the lawsuits against it. The insulation was no where near what asbestos of the day or insulation of today would be. The fires, fueled with wing tanks full of jet fuel, just melted the structural steel and the building floors collapsed on each other as any fire fighter would have predicted.

In fact the WTC was loaded with asbestos and was a white elephant. The WTC had not a single deal on the complex in over 30 years prior to Silverstein's deal which BTW was just 6 months before 9/11 and included a very unusual clause for any terrorist attack that did pay off in the billion$.

In fact, the reason there had not been any deal on the complex is because there was a $200 million asbestos (among others) abatement on the bldgs. upon which a waiver was granted every year. Silverstein Group got $4.6 billion insurance payout. Isn't that precious ?

HERE

I understand that tin foil hats is your best thing, but:



http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/09/14/asbestos-could-have-saved-wtc-lives.html

In 1971, New York City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time, asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor of the World Trade Center towers.

Other materials were substituted for asbestos. Though the substitute sprays passed Underwriters Laboratories’ tests, not everyone was convinced they would work as well.

One skeptic was the late-Herbert Levine who invented spray fireproofing with wet asbestos in the late-1940s. Levine’s invention involved a combination of asbestos with mineral wool and made commonplace the construction of large steel framed buildings.


Fox, really ? Not even a nice try.

Construction started: August 25, 1966

Sept, 10 2015. After the Twin Towers fell, a layer of dust and debris coated Manhattan. Hidden among that cloudy air, inhaled by survivors and first responders alike, were carcinogenic particles and chemicals—asbestos, fiberglass, mercury, and benzene, among others. The Natural Resources Defense Council estimates that 300 to 400 tons of asbestos fibers were used to construct the World Trade Center.

HERE




MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/22/2016 7:36:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Good job Fetchit killed bin Laden, then: he'd be getting sued by half of Manhattan for spreading asbestos about, otherwise.

Victims Compensation Fund was established in the weeks following 9-11. Settlement of all outstanding legal claims relating to 9-11 was required to participate.HERE




Real0ne -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 10:01:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I still want to know who called all the people to tell them to take off that day

I still want to know about the "Israeli students" who took a video of it.

I still want to know why everyone forgot about 1993.

I already know why the towers did not topple and just crush a bunch of buildings around there, there is always a demolition system built in.

T^T

If you understand anything about structure fires then you know the buildings did exactly what a hot fire does to a structure. The idea there was a demolition system is far fetched. I'd need to see a citation. You could note that the towers were built just after asbestos was banned because of all of the lawsuits against it. The insulation was no where near what asbestos of the day or insulation of today would be. The fires, fueled with wing tanks full of jet fuel, just melted the structural steel and the building floors collapsed on each other as any fire fighter would have predicted.

In fact the WTC was loaded with asbestos and was a white elephant. The WTC had not a single deal on the complex in over 30 years prior to Silverstein's deal which BTW was just 6 months before 9/11 and included a very unusual clause for any terrorist attack that did pay off in the billion$.

In fact, the reason there had not been any deal on the complex is because there was a $200 million asbestos (among others) abatement on the bldgs. upon which a waiver was granted every year. Silverstein Group got $4.6 billion insurance payout. Isn't that precious ?

HERE

I understand that tin foil hats is your best thing, but:



http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/09/14/asbestos-could-have-saved-wtc-lives.html

In 1971, New York City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time, asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor of the World Trade Center towers.

Other materials were substituted for asbestos. Though the substitute sprays passed Underwriters Laboratories’ tests, not everyone was convinced they would work as well.

One skeptic was the late-Herbert Levine who invented spray fireproofing with wet asbestos in the late-1940s. Levine’s invention involved a combination of asbestos with mineral wool and made commonplace the construction of large steel framed buildings.


Fox, really ? Not even a nice try.

Construction started: August 25, 1966

Sept, 10 2015. After the Twin Towers fell, a layer of dust and debris coated Manhattan. Hidden among that cloudy air, inhaled by survivors and first responders alike, were carcinogenic particles and chemicals—asbestos, fiberglass, mercury, and benzene, among others. The Natural Resources Defense Council estimates that 300 to 400 tons of asbestos fibers were used to construct the World Trade Center.

HERE


its all about the money!


Asbestos Abatement - Estimated at over a Million Dollars Per Floor...

With all of the excitement of 9/11 - and the full day of "terrorist reports", the mainstream news media failed to delve deeply into a number of existing situations that were playing out behind the scenes of 9/11. One of the main stories that seems to have been blocked, is the fact that the WTC Buildings had a number of floors which were deemed "health risks" due to the fact that there was an asbestos issue in a great number of the floors of the WTC towers.

The WTC Towers were over 110 stories each - and presented a huge Asbestos Abatement issue, which would have involved removing the Asbestos from the floors of the WTC building - to the tune of over one million dollars per floor.

Do people realize this?
Probably not.
Most people still place the events of 9/11 - into the category of "Conspiracy Theory" - without EVER doing their homework into investigating the many details that were playing out behind the scenes.


http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/asbestos.html





WhoreMods -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 10:05:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Good job Fetchit killed bin Laden, then: he'd be getting sued by half of Manhattan for spreading asbestos about, otherwise.

Victims Compensation Fund was established in the weeks following 9-11. Settlement of all outstanding legal claims relating to 9-11 was required to participate.HERE

I was thinking more of the curious failure of ambulance chasers to sue OBL or his fabulously wealthy relatives for damages than palliative measures that actually happened, if I'm honest.




Termyn8or -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 10:50:19 AM)

FR

So, most people believe the oversimplified and incomplete press statements by people who may well believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. So let's say 90 % of the scientists and whatever believe the bullshit. I am not saying there were no planes. I am not saying there were, I was not there.

And what is it, 95 % of scientists believe that anthropogenic global warming is significant and an imminent threat.

What percentage of scientists worked on the Manhattan project that gave us the ability to destroy the world ? What percentage of scientists gave us the polio vaccine ? What percentage of scientists put a Man on the moon ?

Science is not democratic, and it is always the ones who think outside the box who come up with the real innovations. And about the vaccine ? Well most drugs today are created just because the patent expired on the old one. Same with engineering. you can buy two TVs of the same with sequential serial numbers and the odds are not that bad that not one fucking part from one will fit the other. They make more money that way. Cars have been "improved" so much you can't fix them without a million dollar facility.

I believe, really, that real science is dead, or on its death bed.

T^T




WhoreMods -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 11:25:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Science is not democratic, and it is always the ones who think outside the box who come up with the real innovations.

Quite. That's why Wilhelm Reich is so highly regarded in the psychiatric community communities, and everybody thinks Freud, Skinner and Adler were clueless dickheads who are remembered solely for denying the truth of the Orgone theory.
That's why your car can fly when you turn on its Dead drive.
That's why no operating thetan has ever died of a medical condition or sheer old age.

To put it another way: there's a pretty big overlap between "scientists who think outside of the box and ignore conformity" and "obsessional fuckwits with theories that a half smart layman can prove are nonsense, never mind their peers". Claiming otherwise is disingenuous at best.




MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 1:56:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

FR

So, most people believe the oversimplified and incomplete press statements by people who may well believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. So let's say 90 % of the scientists and whatever believe the bullshit. I am not saying there were no planes. I am not saying there were, I was not there.

And what is it, 95 % of scientists believe that anthropogenic global warming is significant and an imminent threat.

What percentage of scientists worked on the Manhattan project that gave us the ability to destroy the world ? What percentage of scientists gave us the polio vaccine ? What percentage of scientists put a Man on the moon ?

Science is not democratic, and it is always the ones who think outside the box who come up with the real innovations. And about the vaccine ? Well most drugs today are created just because the patent expired on the old one. Same with engineering. you can buy two TVs of the same with sequential serial numbers and the odds are not that bad that not one fucking part from one will fit the other. They make more money that way. Cars have been "improved" so much you can't fix them without a million dollar facility.

I believe, really, that real science is dead, or on its death bed.

T^T

The problem T8r is that most of science is no longer engaged...for pure science. In Einstein's time, the Germans thought science was to win wars. Medical science was to produce a pill, not just find ways to heal or truly cure. Edison thought science was to improve consumer life, and that's where we are today and probably since WWII.

Most real scientific research today and for 40-50 years, is funded by govt. without which, we wouldn't have even 1/2 and likely a lot less of the shit we have today. Much of what we have electronically today was NASA or DARPA and medically...NIH.

SO yes, real private scientific research is on its death bed unless it's the new phone or video something or consumer driven. Even computers and for business is volume or transactional based.

Software is volume or cyber security or adding hardware, speed and volume ZFS based now. (Zettabyte File System) Theoretical physics seems as if it is all settled and got that far only because...we were curious. We seem to be curious no more.




MrRodgers -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 4:54:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Good job Fetchit killed bin Laden, then: he'd be getting sued by half of Manhattan for spreading asbestos about, otherwise.

Victims Compensation Fund was established in the weeks following 9-11. Settlement of all outstanding legal claims relating to 9-11 was required to participate.HERE

I was thinking more of the curious failure of ambulance chasers to sue OBL or his fabulously wealthy relatives for damages than palliative measures that actually happened, if I'm honest.

Well that would have been pretty difficult seeing as how OBL was never indicted for 9/11 and in fact, never even an unindicted co-conspirator.




Politesub53 -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 5:04:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Odd, I dont see you in my hard evidence thread gittin it done. [8|]

That and one person posted a link to several phds who scorn the official story and point out its a farce and a hoax upon the people and in that group are several pe's so what materials have you examined that you think qualifies you to comment, or is this devolving into a 'my expert is better than your expert' childish shit slinging contest as these kinds of discussions usually do?


I have bolded the relevant part but the following could be about any of your moronic posts.

Laughable bollocks from you RO




WickedsDesire -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/23/2016 11:49:52 PM)

Bondageerone nooo I am lesbian too I stole all these pictures oh wait I verified myself didn’t I, unlike you and your stolen pictures, of how many different women is it now? And you offered to talk to me by blocking me.

Everyone knows that's a man right?




bondageerone -> RE: you cannot be serious. 9/11 (9/24/2016 2:12:25 AM)

HI WICKEDDESIRE I AM ACTUALLY THE ONE ARM MAN WHO SHOT THE DOCTORS WIFE.
your drug use obviously makes you jealous of the real world.
this is the last time we will talk.
SAID A REAL LESBIAN BITCH. XX




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