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Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 1:28:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge quote: ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl Beautiful. And I agree. Also, in my experience the Dom can't think the war is won ever. It's a continuous battle...lol Not in my case. I won that battle over 3 years ago, I just keep reminding her of that. Lol. But you have to remind her. .so still battling. ;)

LadyPact -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 1:57:43 PM)
Battling? Are we serious here? Look here... Some of you folks on the other side of the slash just have this misconstrued idea that you are more important than you really are. If you've ever had a one night stand, THINK about what that "GIFT" really means.

littleclip -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 5:49:38 PM)
i do not offer my submission freely it is me that i am offering and i chose who i offer myself to and the one i d offer my submission to is very worthy and i respect them before i do offer. my position is no more important than the other i am offering to be a part of their life and in so doing to the betterment of both

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 6:26:08 PM)
quote: Some of you folks on the other side of the slash just have this misconstrued idea that you are more important than you really are. True, but in my experience that sort of inflated sense of importance is more the province of those on your side of the slash.

tamaka -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 9:25:29 PM)
Well i suppose that both sides of the slash are important if each person wants some type of relationship with a slash in the middle.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 9:31:33 PM)
fake fuks are all other than me…of course I am wrong so feel free to talk amongst yourself scum of the earth

ResidentSadist -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 10:00:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Battling? Are we serious here? Look here... Some of you folks on the other side of the slash just have this misconstrued idea that you are more important than you really are. If you've ever had a one night stand, THINK about what that "GIFT" really means. I have always thought of one time encounters as a mutual pleasure exchange... a quid pro quo sorta' thing.

Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 10:10:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Some of you folks on the other side of the slash just have this misconstrued idea that you are more important than you really are. True, but in my experience that sort of inflated sense of importance is more the province of those on your side of the slash. Hahaha hahahaha hahahaha So true.

LadyPact -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/2/2016 10:56:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick True, but in my experience that sort of inflated sense of importance is more the province of those on your side of the slash. People may not like it, but most people view their universe from their own eyes. You're important to you, right? I mean, if you're reeeaaallly going to tell me that the guy you had a one off with MATTERS to you just the same as somebody you honestly care about? My hat's off to you.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 12:15:58 AM)
Reality is apparent less than 0.001% on here has that. I have that on here, I one of less than one handful. tis why all shame me on here – whom amongst you will stand with me? Life is finite *weeps and idiots galore of utter messes

Greta75 -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 12:32:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Not everyone will like you....so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will love you......so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will have sex with you.....so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will give you a job....so I guess that's a gift. Yeah, there's a lot of things that "not everyone will" falls under. You know someone can give you a gift, like a birthday present, and you can either appreciate the gift or actually think it's a very crap gift and don't appreciate it. So just because if someone likes me, it could be a crap gift, even though they feel their friendship is a gift to me. But yes, friendship can be a gift especially if it's a good friendship! Totally a gift! I consider my best friend friendship to me, a total treasure, a total precious gift. Unconditional friends are super rare. He is a gift! His friendship is a gift! Any love given to me is definitely a gift! 101%%% Why would you even say love is not a gift? It TOTALLY IS!! Again, I think my best sex is a gift to me! But not all men who offers me sex is offering me a gift that I want. As I said, some gifts are crap. Technically, a job can be a gift too, depending on how rare and desperately you need one. So submission is a gift. But Dominants are free to decline the gift, be unappreciative about the gift, or be fully appreciative about it. And I choose to gift my submission to dominants who I know will treasure me. I mean, I ain't gonna bother with a dominant who tells you, your submission is no big deal and trivalise it. Hell no!

WickedsDesire -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 1:55:01 AM)
littleclip is uniquely placed to answer this I am still going with a smile for now. Thoughts littleclip I am curious

LadyPact -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 2:57:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl Not everyone will like you....so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will love you......so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will have sex with you.....so I guess that's a gift. Not everyone will give you a job....so I guess that's a gift. Yeah, there's a lot of things that "not everyone will" falls under. You know someone can give you a gift, like a birthday present, and you can either appreciate the gift or actually think it's a very crap gift and don't appreciate it. So just because if someone likes me, it could be a crap gift, even though they feel their friendship is a gift to me. But yes, friendship can be a gift especially if it's a good friendship! Totally a gift! I consider my best friend friendship to me, a total treasure, a total precious gift. Unconditional friends are super rare. He is a gift! His friendship is a gift! Any love given to me is definitely a gift! 101%%% Why would you even say love is not a gift? It TOTALLY IS!! Again, I think my best sex is a gift to me! But not all men who offers me sex is offering me a gift that I want. As I said, some gifts are crap. Technically, a job can be a gift too, depending on how rare and desperately you need one. So submission is a gift. But Dominants are free to decline the gift, be unappreciative about the gift, or be fully appreciative about it. And I choose to gift my submission to dominants who I know will treasure me. I mean, I ain't gonna bother with a dominant who tells you, your submission is no big deal and trivalise it. Hell no! It's weird. If you go back to posts of mine from years ago, if anybody was ever a "gift" to me, it was my first grandchild. I don't consider submission (or fucking, or whatever have you) to be a gift.

Kaliko -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 3:21:31 AM)
FR I think Awareness would probably say my submission is not so much a gift as it is a pain in the ass sometimes. [:D]

PeonForHer -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 3:40:22 AM)
quote: I don't consider submission (or fucking, or whatever have you) to be a gift. To be fair, when a man and a woman have a fuck, the man is certainly gifting to the woman. After all, the man comes away with less than what he started with, doesn't he?

LadyPact -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 3:52:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer To be fair, when a man and a woman have a fuck, the man is certainly gifting to the woman. After all, the man comes away with less than what he started with, doesn't he? You're going the fast way to a smart bottom.

longwayhome -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 4:15:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: I don't consider submission (or fucking, or whatever have you) to be a gift. To be fair, when a man and a woman have a fuck, the man is certainly gifting to the woman. After all, the man comes away with less than what he started with, doesn't he? We so need a like button. [:D]

Greta75 -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 5:20:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact If you go back to posts of mine from years ago, if anybody was ever a "gift" to me, it was my first grandchild. I don't consider submission (or fucking, or whatever have you) to be a gift. [/color] To me, if people don't consider it a gift, then it simply means, they don't treasure it. You treasure your grand child, that's why you think it's a gift. But perhaps you are dealing with male subs who are happy to submit to just anybody and everybody. So it doesn't feel like a gift. But for me, submission is like me giving unconditional love to somebody. It's not casual. It's not just sex. It's not just kink. And I seriously up till today, only submitted to one man ever. Never found another I could submit to. I have plenty of casual sex for fun, but that ain't submission, that's all about me and purely for me.

longwayhome -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 6:22:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact If you go back to posts of mine from years ago, if anybody was ever a "gift" to me, it was my first grandchild. I don't consider submission (or fucking, or whatever have you) to be a gift. [/color] To me, if people don't consider it a gift, then it simply means, they don't treasure it. You treasure your grand child, that's why you think it's a gift. But perhaps you are dealing with male subs who are happy to submit to just anybody and everybody. So it doesn't feel like a gift. But for me, submission is like me giving unconditional love to somebody. It's not casual. It's not just sex. It's not just kink. And I seriously up till today, only submitted to one man ever. Never found another I could submit to. I have plenty of casual sex for fun, but that ain't submission, that's all about me and purely for me. I think some of the apparent disagreement here is because of the meaning of the word "gift", not necessarily the sentiment behind it. "Giving unconditional love" to someone is a big deal, no matter what word you use. Valuing yourself by making sure you are doing the right thing for you when you enter into a relationship or having a quick shag is the right thing to do whatever label you put on it. If treasuring your submission is the right word for that, fair enough. It's a bit poetic a word for having some kind of self-respect, but I get it. However treating your submission like you are doing someone else a favour for which they should be grateful is a pretty shitty trip to lay on someone. In that sense it isn't a gift at all. It's a part of me I would want to be respected just as I would have respect for someone I agreed was my dominant. I don't want someone to be grateful for my submission. I do want what I have or do with them to be so good for them (and me) that they are pleased and grateful that we got together, but that is different to them worshipping my submission as a precious gift.

ohthat1percent -> RE: Is submission really a 'gift' ? (10/3/2016 6:30:12 AM)
You should treasure the person. submission nor dominance is something to be treasured, it simply is what it is. Greta You sound like you are doing the dom a favor by submitting to him. That it's contrived based on whether you feel he's been a good boy and correctly shows his appreciation. This does often from what I see lead to humoring him with your submission.

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