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Is trump a "genius" or crook

Behold our lord of utter splendor

21% (5)

He is a crooked bastard & cash vortex

78% (18)

Total Votes : 23

(last vote on : 10/12/2016 8:13:03 AM)
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Hillwilliam -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 5:57:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic His base hate the poor That's a huge sweeping generalization. its worse than that. its an entirely self-serving and embarrassing hyper-partisan delusion. How about this one? His base is comprised of people of below average intelligence who believe every word he says. you have absolutely no way of knowing that, so, much like you want to say "REEAAAD," im going to say "THINNNNNNNK." I work with a lot of Trump supporters. Not a damn one of them are of anything resembling well above average intelligence and most well below. sorry, youre still in the same little methodological roadblock--you cannot get to what you said prior, but why you just said here. and its sadly ironic too given youre criticizing his supporters intelligence. I criticize his supporters intelligence because the ones I am acquainted with are not intelligent people and several are on assistance which they decry even as they collect it. 2 can't even vote for him because they are convicted felons but they by damn support him.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 6:04:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I said millions of businesses. Are you THAT fucking dense or just playing stoopid? I said that losing a Billion is RARE for a business. You found less than a THOUSANDTH of a percent of businesses that had lost that much. I call that RARE. Are you so enamored of the Trump/Putin ticket that you lost your brains? Once again. thanks for proving my point. By the way, Hilliary is an utter sleazebag but Trump is an utter incompetent who was lucky enough to be born with a Platinum spoon in his mouth. Otherwise, he would be lucky to be driving a forklift for a living at just above minimum wage. Wrong again. Joe's Bait Shop isn't ever going to lose a billion dollars because it doesn't have that kind of cashflow to begin with. It's not even in the same ballpark. Businesses at that level can't be compared so trying to include "millions" of irrelevant companies to make your point is pretty much bullshit. Now, if you want to remove the billion dollar amount that you imposed and just talk about companies in general that lose money then we're right back to my point anyway, which is that it's not uncommon and Trumps' losses are meaningless to the debate. P.S. I'm glad you at least recognize Hillary's a sleazebag. For the record, my support for Trump is tepid at best. My beef is with the Washington D.C. establishment and the fact that everything they do only seems to fuck the middle class more and more. I'm going poor paying for the poor and I don't believe that's what the founding fathers had in mind when they said "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". In fact, I'm so pissed off that I'm willing to take a chance on a less-than-stellar outsider in the hopes he might actually break the cycle in some way. Again, I said a business that loses a Billion is RARE. You proved it twice now. As for me calling Hillary a sleazebag, when have I ever supported her? A problem with those on the Right is that they cannot understand someone that is capable of independent thought. Either you are a RW "Sheeple"/"dittohead" or you MUST be a liberal.

RottenJohnny -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 9:44:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Again, I said a business that loses a Billion is RARE. You proved it twice now. As for me calling Hillary a sleazebag, when have I ever supported her? A problem with those on the Right is that they cannot understand someone that is capable of independent thought. Either you are a RW "Sheeple"/"dittohead" or you MUST be a liberal. Well, you may be capable of independent thought but it's abundantly clear you're not capable of logic. Maybe you're the liberal.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 10:42:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RottenJohnny quote: ORIGINAL: epiphiny43 The despicable part is not the sharp business practices (We'll ignore the blatant theft from workers and businesses he just doesn't pay because his lawyers can tie them up in court till they go bankrupt) as far as taxes, it's the ten times BBC and others (so far) have documented Wee Paws' Tax Shaming others for less egregious (or even fanciful/ 'possible') tax dodges. If it disqualified them from public life, sauce for the gander? There have been, and still are, numerous opportunities for the public to decide that Trump isn't a man they can support. He certainly isn't shy about giving them ample ammunition to shoot him down. People just seem to hate Hillary even more. If we're going by your and many others' estimation of what is the best reckoning to put a prez into office, until a year ago Kim Kardashian had ten times more publicity than Donald. I'm sure there are some that hate Hillary more than Kim Kardashian too. (and I still have no idea what that person looks like, thank goodness) I'll say it again; TMZ is the new the party that shoved this crap upon us in the first place, and have proved that they are the new force in conferring 'legitimacy' upon the sorriest lot of society. Sorry, but Democrats and Republicans are dinosaurs. What a fuckload of trinket-buying knee-bending-to-a-sack-of-shit suckers this country has become.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 10:51:42 PM)
And no, not anything like a 'fan' of Hillary at all. Just because I hated Reagan or Bush doesn't mean I didn't hate the fuck out of Bill, too.

RottenJohnny -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 10:57:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird What a fuckload of trinket-buying knee-bending-to-a-sack-of-shit suckers this country has become. Blame the politicians.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 11:15:10 PM)
I used to do that. But a uni education in econ and finance and the books (some from class, some not directed from class) that led me to researchers on the issue of more mergers into larger conglomerates which led to the oligarchy that we have today told me that politicians are not themselves the first cause. The mantra of 'limited government' played into that perfectly. In any case, the laws have been written by high-powered interest groups, lobbyists, off-the-books lobbyists, ALEC, etc, for many years now. Look at the funding of these groups and figure it out.

Blank101 -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 11:19:51 PM)
quote: Edwird I used to do that. But a uni education in econ and finance and the books (some from class, some not directed from class) that led me to researchers on the issue of more mergers into larger conglomerates which led to the oligarchy that we have today. The mantra of 'limited government' played into that perfectly. In any case, the laws have been written by high-powered interest groups, lobbyists, off-the-books lobbyists, ALEC, etc, for many years now. Look at the funding of these groups and figure it out. And the conglomerates are growing larger, while the rich are getting richer. Worst of all, diminishing these conglomerates can have dire affects on the economy.

RottenJohnny -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 11:24:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Look at the funding of these groups and figure it out. Tell me something I'm not already aware of.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 11:36:05 PM)
In one way, I see your point regarding the last sentence. Keep in mind, though, that businesses sell off subsidiaries all the time, of their own accord. People gripe and bitch about so many jobs going off-shore. But private equity companies in the US buy some business, then lay off 3,000 workers, then sell it 2 years later, where somebody else lays off 2,000 more workers. If GE sells off a subsidiary, it might or might not result in lay-offs. If it's sold to a private equity or hedge fund ... time to get the resume for Craigs list, Monster dot com. etc.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/7/2016 11:47:51 PM)
But there are times when downsizing actually works for society, not just the particular company. If this be in a certain sector of industry/services, then there might be plenty of others hiring, maybe even at better pay. Thinking that giving more tax breaks to the largest companies will improve the employment situation is just stupid. Putting more money to education -especially to the 'technician class- is the better proposition. Fuck all these grants and stipends for grad level psychologists, philosophers, etc. PHD funding for anyone having to to do with 'finance' should be cut forthwith, if we care anything about our society at all.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/8/2016 11:45:09 PM)
At this point I have to say ... if I hear one more time that Trump is a "genius" for taking a $900 million loss on his taxes, I think I am going to throw up.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/8/2016 11:47:01 PM)
“It is in Apple’s DNA that technology alone is not enough—it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing.” --Steve Jobs http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/steve-jobs-technology-alone-is-not-enough quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Putting more money to education -especially to the 'technician class- is the better proposition. Fuck all these grants and stipends for grad level psychologists, philosophers, etc.

Charles6682 -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 4:34:39 AM)
If Trump is so smart, then doesn't that make 47% of the people who don't pay taxes smart too? Except the 47% who don't live in nice places after ripping off the government.

Charles6682 -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 4:37:44 AM)
Trump also thought the housing market collapse was a great thing. He wanted to make money off the country's economy going downhill for his own profit. Yea, he really cares about America. Especially when he helps him.

WhoreMods -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 4:54:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster “It is in Apple’s DNA that technology alone is not enough—it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing.” --Steve Jobs http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/steve-jobs-technology-alone-is-not-enough quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Putting more money to education -especially to the 'technician class- is the better proposition. Fuck all these grants and stipends for grad level psychologists, philosophers, etc. I don't buy that Steve Jobs was a genius (given that his biggest talent besides a knack for marketing was claiming credit for smarter people's work), and his claims to have been inspired to greatness by a liberal agenda if you pay any attention to Apple's business practices under him. The tosspot was using slave labour long before Apple handed its manufacturing over to Foxconn, and his company's ongoing contempt for paying taxes has never struck me as evidence for a coporate level philosophy of humanism and liberalism either.

thompsonx -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 4:59:04 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 Alot of middle class Americans who pay federal tax might be upset that he used legal loopholes to evade taxes. Timmy evading taxes is a felony in amerika. But to me, I expect every rich person to use legal loopholes to evade taxes. Please pay atrtention dumbass...evading taxes is a felony in amerika...yes idaho is still part of amerika. Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

thompsonx -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 5:02:37 AM)
ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster At this point I have to say ... if I hear one more time that Trump is a "genius" for taking a $900 million loss on his taxes, I think I am going to throw up. Please pass the barf bag my way...everytime I hear that tripe I get the urge to hurle.

Edwird -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 7:19:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster “It is in Apple’s DNA that technology alone is not enough—it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing.” --Steve Jobs http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/steve-jobs-technology-alone-is-not-enough quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Putting more money to education -especially to the 'technician class- is the better proposition. Fuck all these grants and stipends for grad level psychologists, philosophers, etc. The majority of people from Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, etc. I come across on forums (primarily from pro audio sites) don't have a degree. They speak English, and some of them French, and it's obvious they are at least as well read as those in England or the US. Germany has the funds to spend on uni education because they don't waste money on forcing plumbers and carpenters to suffer another two years beyond what's required for their trade. No stupid and completely useless 'High School Diploma' with no skill at all, as in the US. I was a HS dropout and read James Joyce and William Faulkner and other crap when I was 16-17. The problem with academia in the US is that it's assumed nobody has any interest in anything unless it's shoved down their throats by ... you guessed it; academia. The fact that the uni places far more importance on the written word, where everything is literally spelled out for you, more than art or music, which challenge abstract thinking process to a much greater degree, tells us what we need to know about the people ruling that enterprise. The reason so many people drop out of college after one or two years, then go back to it a year or two later, because they know they have to for the job, is that the whole presentation and process is so utterly stultifying and stifling to any naturally free thinking mind. Whatever you thought would be fun to learn, the university goes out of their way to make it as un-fun as possible. Here in the US, I've come across many people without college degree who are well spoken, well read, and/or listen to historical jazz or classical music, or have a great eye for art, classic photography, etc.

heavyblinker -> RE: Is trump a "genius" or crook (10/9/2016 10:48:35 AM)
It's more that Trump is authentically ignorant enough to reach a lot of other ignorant people on their level without coming off as condescending. He's not a master manipulator, not a brilliant strategist... he is popular because in America, humility is dead and people have come to equate competence with how much someone resembles themselves.

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