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Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 5:58:44 PM)

How long is a piece of string ? That's an easy one to answer.




tamaka -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:02:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ohthat1percent

haha, no I didn't ask in that area -- why? Because in my mind they are two separate areas of life -- i.e., one relationship based and one play based -- and there are different things that need considering for each. It could very well be a good discussion as many people would probably get involved with their own ideas of how to, whys, whens, and safety yadda yadda -- why not start a thread regarding trust from that aspect.



I have no idea how you can separate a relationship from 'play'.




Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:20:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

How long is a piece of string ? That's an easy one to answer.

Lol. I'd never heard that one before either! Tell me more, I'm enjoying these.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:29:53 PM)

It's twice the distance as it is from one end to the centre point




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:31:04 PM)

I have one that I would like answered because I honestly never figured it out.......................why do they build walls around graveyards ?




tamaka -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:40:18 PM)

To mark it as sacred territory.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:42:05 PM)

sacred ? why are a bunch of dead bodies supposed to be sacred ? I thought maybe it was to stop anybody stealing something. Or maybe they expect the dead to try and get out. Or maybe somebody to try and get in without an invitation.




tamaka -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:47:12 PM)

Maybe if someone you love died and you buried their body in a cemetary you would understand a little more.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 6:52:46 PM)

you have never had much to do with dead bodies have you ? Especially those over a couple of days old. Especially those in tropical areas. There is absolutely nothing remotely sacred about them. They are just an unwanted suit of clothes that is buried. Whatever was inside it is long gone, if there ever WAS anything.
you know absolutely jack-shit about my background so don't try that bullshit 'Burying your loved ones' on me, because it just doesn't wash.




littleclip -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 7:04:00 PM)

vicks vaporub or similar when you place a daub under your nose it overwhelms most of the smell of putrefaction use it working in the morgue and in ems




LadyPact -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 7:04:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Well given the amount of FUCKING whining in the kink community about consent violations, I'd say my view is reasonably close to reality.


But you *don't* know Awareness because, by your own admission, you don't even interact with your local kink community.

Exactly how did you come by "your view"?





ThundersCry2U -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 7:09:43 PM)

Who mentioned caring, let alone wanting to know...about your background?

We all have our *stories*...





Awareness -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 10:35:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
3 cords.




Numerans -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/9/2016 10:38:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

I have one that I would like answered because I honestly never figured it out.......................why do they build walls around graveyards ?




Zombies bro...zombies cannot jump.




crazyml -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 2:50:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Trust is nothing more than the belief that a person's behaviour is predictable.

Deifying it is nonsensical.


I think this is a pretty poor definition of "trust". The concept "trust" is at its most useful when you cannot predict another person's behaviour, but you believe that that behaviour will meet certain criteria.

A) How is that useful?


It is useful because it's a measure of the confidence that someone will act in a way that conforms to a set of values.

If you trust someone with your pet while you're away, and that pet falls ill, you cannot predict what choice of action the person looking after your pet will take, but you trust that that they will apply the a set of values to the question.

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B) How is that not a belief in the predictability of someone's behaviour?


Because you cannot predict what choice they will make, but you have a level of faith/confidence in the kind of choice they will make.

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I think you're engaging in vague hand-waving here to avoid a definition that's more stark than you'd like. The very definition of trust uses words such as "reliability" and "confidence".


No, I'm challenging an overly simplistic definition.

It's not a question of it being "more stark" than I like, it's a question of it being a faulty definition.

If you were able to predict what someone would do, there would be no requirement for trust.



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Pretending it's something mystical seems somewhat counterproductive.


I wonder who has made that claim on this thread?




NookieNotes -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 3:07:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?


Woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck. Woodchuck would chuck wood.




PeonForHer -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 3:21:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?


Woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck. Woodchuck would chuck wood.


Would woodchuck get wood as he chucks that wood as much as he would?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 6:20:56 AM)

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Because you cannot predict what choice they will make, but you have a level of faith/confidence in the kind of choice they will make.

And thus you feel you can predict their action with a degree of accuracy.




Greatlilbabygirl -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 6:23:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Numerans


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

I have one that I would like answered because I honestly never figured it out.......................why do they build walls around graveyards ?




Zombies bro...zombies cannot jump.

True unless we are looking at WWZ or Game of Thrones zombies. Then we are well and truly fucked




NookieNotes -> RE: Do you think "trust" is overrated (10/10/2016 8:16:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes


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ORIGINAL: Greatlilbabygirl

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?


Woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck. Woodchuck would chuck wood.


Would woodchuck get wood as he chucks that wood as much as he would?


I don't concern myself with the boners of smallish mammals.

But it was an amusing mental picture. *grins*




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