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thishereboi -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/14/2016 3:33:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 I don't find it funny. It's sick! Are you aware that many workers, apart from losing bonuses, would actually get their wages CUT if there are too many losses?? And there will be cases where people lose their kids because they aren't earning enough to keep them properly? Or lose their house because they can no longer afford the rent? Or can't get their kids to a doctor because they can't afford it? These problems are not caused by shoplifters. And to the OP, there is a reason why 1% control 90% of the money. It is because that way, no matter what the other 99% do, financially they are powerless to change anything. Whether one plays by the rules... or not. No those are problems caused by losing your job. Of course losing your job can be caused by the company losing money because of theft but apparently the op doesn't care about that part. As to the 1%, I totally agree. What a shame they are about to elect another one to lead our country. But that really doesn't have anything to do with the op trying to justify being a thief. Does it? Yes actually... it does. What jobs would they hypothetically losing? If you haven't noticed, the 1% not only is controlling the media and politics, they are also destroying most of the middle class and moving more and more hard working people into poverty. So what could be done by the people to fix this? Following the rules isn't working out so well. So, theoretically, perhaps not following them might produce some results. It kind of goes back to that basic Philosophy 101 question... if a parent couldn't afford the medicine to save your child's life, is it wrong to steal it? Sometimes the end justifies the means. What kind of jobs would people be losing? A slave labor job. Whereas before stores were run individually by local entrepreneurs/merchants who hired their neighbors and paid them a fair wage. A wage they could provide for their family with. What kind of jobs would they be losing? Those would be the kind of jobs that up until they were fired were putting food on their tables and allowing them to pay bills. Now you may feel that kind of work is beneath them in order to justify your need to steal shit but I doubt they feel the same way. But hey I get it. No one want to feel bad about themselves and I am sure an uncontrollable urge to rip shit off would make you feel bad about yourself. But if you think you are going to come here or anywhere else except perhaps a prison yard, and get all the people to tell you it's ok to steal then you are perhaps delusional as well as dishonest.

MariaB -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/14/2016 8:56:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Numerans I'm not sure if this fits here, but heck why not. Not like I can open up with people about this elsewhere anyway. I get a huge rush and love the sensation and atmosphere in general from going to forbidden places or shoplifting or even attempting to smuggle things or bring things that are forbidden. Taking pictures of art while avoiding camera angles in museums, bringing sharp objects on planes, rolls of money etc. Most of you here are probably once again too public with your identities to talk openly about this but is there any term for this? Have you encountered others who do it? What do you feel about them? I have very strict rules, I never take anything personal from anyone, I never damage the places I invade and I do not do this very often, I only shoplift from large conglomerates that can more or less cover their losses and never from any place local, I frown upon people shitting where they eat so to speak so taking things from where I work or study is also generally off bounds in terms of this. I think the turnon is similar to but opposite in effect to voyerism as the fun is in staying hidden instead of being seen. I am also just enticed by the sensation of liberty which I feel is so lacking while being mesmerized and confused by peoples obedience and loyalty to arbitrary law but disloyalty to each other and how when social order breaks down terrible looting takes place which I would never want to partake in. I haven't engaged in theft for quite some time though for various reasons but become more and more interested in trespassing, especially with all the tools that technology makes available today. Associate freely. I have yet to be caught :-) If I found the right person I would love to fuck somewhere forbidden, just out of reach from the public eye. I am wayyyyy too shy about doing anything like that in public (again, voyerism) but being at the brink of it seems interesting enough to perhaps be attempted. In relation to all of this. . . Sometimes I feel that my dark thoughts are and feelings are sinful and I wish I believed in god enough to ask for true forgiveness but as I peak through the veil of the personality of others around me I seem to notice more and more that they just mask theirs a bit better. To the op. You would make the perfect subject for Matza & Sykes’ who wrote at length about people like yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization you’re distorting your own reality by reaching out to people who have the ability to resist and maintaining that what you do is acceptable. Your denial of responsibility and your inappropriate behavior is both primal and greatly lacking in control. We all (even you) understand our moral obligation to remain within the law and most of us have an inbuilt mechanism to resist temptation... You do posses that mechanism but you, unlike most of us, have the ability to silence the urge to follow what you know is morally right. You're inability to suppress your need for excitement and thrill seeking doesn't make you a bad person but it does make you an unstable person and it most certainly makes you an unpredictable person. You’re shop lifting capabilities are by the by. I’d be more interested in why a person like yourself has ventured into the world of BDSM D/s.

tamaka -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/14/2016 9:36:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: Numerans I'm not sure if this fits here, but heck why not. Not like I can open up with people about this elsewhere anyway. I get a huge rush and love the sensation and atmosphere in general from going to forbidden places or shoplifting or even attempting to smuggle things or bring things that are forbidden. Taking pictures of art while avoiding camera angles in museums, bringing sharp objects on planes, rolls of money etc. Most of you here are probably once again too public with your identities to talk openly about this but is there any term for this? Have you encountered others who do it? What do you feel about them? I have very strict rules, I never take anything personal from anyone, I never damage the places I invade and I do not do this very often, I only shoplift from large conglomerates that can more or less cover their losses and never from any place local, I frown upon people shitting where they eat so to speak so taking things from where I work or study is also generally off bounds in terms of this. I think the turnon is similar to but opposite in effect to voyerism as the fun is in staying hidden instead of being seen. I am also just enticed by the sensation of liberty which I feel is so lacking while being mesmerized and confused by peoples obedience and loyalty to arbitrary law but disloyalty to each other and how when social order breaks down terrible looting takes place which I would never want to partake in. I haven't engaged in theft for quite some time though for various reasons but become more and more interested in trespassing, especially with all the tools that technology makes available today. Associate freely. I have yet to be caught :-) If I found the right person I would love to fuck somewhere forbidden, just out of reach from the public eye. I am wayyyyy too shy about doing anything like that in public (again, voyerism) but being at the brink of it seems interesting enough to perhaps be attempted. In relation to all of this. . . Sometimes I feel that my dark thoughts are and feelings are sinful and I wish I believed in god enough to ask for true forgiveness but as I peak through the veil of the personality of others around me I seem to notice more and more that they just mask theirs a bit better. To the op. You would make the perfect subject for Matza & Sykes’ who wrote at length about people like yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization you’re distorting your own reality by reaching out to people who have the ability to resist and maintaining that what you do is acceptable. Your denial of responsibility and your inappropriate behavior is both primal and greatly lacking in control. We all (even you) understand our moral obligation to remain within the law and most of us have an inbuilt mechanism to resist temptation... You do posses that mechanism but you, unlike most of us, have the ability to silence the urge to follow what you know is morally right. You're inability to suppress your need for excitement and thrill seeking doesn't make you a bad person but it does make you an unstable person and it most certainly makes you an unpredictable person. You’re shop lifting capabilities are by the by. I’d be more interested in why a person like yourself has ventured into the world of BDSM D/s. I thought about this too and i would bet that it has something to do with the idea that those in bdsm are more open- minded about breaking through the norms of societal 'norms, rules and barriers' than most people. That would be the type of person who is more open- minded to the 'bigger picture' type thinking. Well, one would think. But honestly this debate is going in 2 different directions. I took it a whole different way than others did.

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/14/2016 10:32:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB quote: ORIGINAL: Numerans I'm not sure if this fits here, but heck why not. Not like I can open up with people about this elsewhere anyway. I get a huge rush and love the sensation and atmosphere in general from going to forbidden places or shoplifting or even attempting to smuggle things or bring things that are forbidden. Taking pictures of art while avoiding camera angles in museums, bringing sharp objects on planes, rolls of money etc. Most of you here are probably once again too public with your identities to talk openly about this but is there any term for this? Have you encountered others who do it? What do you feel about them? I have very strict rules, I never take anything personal from anyone, I never damage the places I invade and I do not do this very often, I only shoplift from large conglomerates that can more or less cover their losses and never from any place local, I frown upon people shitting where they eat so to speak so taking things from where I work or study is also generally off bounds in terms of this. I think the turnon is similar to but opposite in effect to voyerism as the fun is in staying hidden instead of being seen. I am also just enticed by the sensation of liberty which I feel is so lacking while being mesmerized and confused by peoples obedience and loyalty to arbitrary law but disloyalty to each other and how when social order breaks down terrible looting takes place which I would never want to partake in. I haven't engaged in theft for quite some time though for various reasons but become more and more interested in trespassing, especially with all the tools that technology makes available today. Associate freely. I have yet to be caught :-) If I found the right person I would love to fuck somewhere forbidden, just out of reach from the public eye. I am wayyyyy too shy about doing anything like that in public (again, voyerism) but being at the brink of it seems interesting enough to perhaps be attempted. In relation to all of this. . . Sometimes I feel that my dark thoughts are and feelings are sinful and I wish I believed in god enough to ask for true forgiveness but as I peak through the veil of the personality of others around me I seem to notice more and more that they just mask theirs a bit better. To the op. You would make the perfect subject for Matza & Sykes’ who wrote at length about people like yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization you’re distorting your own reality by reaching out to people who have the ability to resist and maintaining that what you do is acceptable. Your denial of responsibility and your inappropriate behavior is both primal and greatly lacking in control. We all (even you) understand our moral obligation to remain within the law and most of us have an inbuilt mechanism to resist temptation... You do posses that mechanism but you, unlike most of us, have the ability to silence the urge to follow what you know is morally right. You're inability to suppress your need for excitement and thrill seeking doesn't make you a bad person but it does make you an unstable person and it most certainly makes you an unpredictable person. You’re shop lifting capabilities are by the by. I’d be more interested in why a person like yourself has ventured into the world of BDSM D/s. Well I ventured in it from a kink perspective for similar reasons as this. To experience new sensations, to explore my mental and physical self and that of others, to explore a taboo and so forth. I'm not reaching out of people who can have the ability to resist per se. I've never discussed this anywhere else and thought that this would be the venue to in an anonymous way discuss something as this. This type of risque behavior in different forms is quite common yet perhaps more taboo than BDSM. Besides there's more to this site than just BDSM. It's about alternative sexuality and fetishes, quirks and interests. Personally I find many other aspects of accepted or legal behavior worse, as mentioned. This is not a denial of responsibility but a relativistic view on the subject. Also because of the philosophy and ethical standpoints that I have I may be far less unpredictable person than most. I don't break peoples trust at the slightest, which people become aware of when there is too much gossip and so in turn they trust me with things - and trust includes more than just secrets. I'm not unpredictable, I'm just different. To the person that doesn't know me or doesn't want to know me I may appear unpredictable if I act very foolishly but that doesn't happen very often. But alas, I will not find top many people here interested in the subject itself as in the end this forum is full of people actively dating or looking, including myself and that makes discussions such as these more difficult than I foolishly thought, despite the reservations mentioned in the OP. The reason why I'm staying in this world and becoming more interested in its depths is for a whole other list of reasons that are private. But you may be correct about my lack of self control as I've said that I'd already leave this topic. PS: Besides, in a way maybe I enjoy both being provocative and trying to improve the world a little bit at the time and so being able to discuss something like this where you're bound to be outnumbered and even outgunned in some way is fun and I have some free time now again.

HoneyBears -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 12:53:25 AM)
[Quotes parsed] quote: ORIGINAL: Numerans quote: ORIGINAL: MariaB To the op. You would make the perfect subject for Matza & Sykes’ who wrote at length about people like yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization you’re distorting your own reality by reaching out to people who have the ability to resist and maintaining that what you do is acceptable. Your denial of responsibility and your inappropriate behavior is both primal and greatly lacking in control. We all (even you) understand our moral obligation to remain within the law and most of us have an inbuilt mechanism to resist temptation... You do posses that mechanism but you, unlike most of us, have the ability to silence the urge to follow what you know is morally right. You're inability to suppress your need for excitement and thrill seeking doesn't make you a bad person but it does make you an unstable person and it most certainly makes you an unpredictable person. You’re shop lifting capabilities are by the by. I’d be more interested in why a person like yourself has ventured into the world of BDSM D/s. <snipped> The reason why I'm staying in this world and becoming more interested in its depths is for a whole other list of reasons that are private. But you may be correct about my lack of self control as I've said that I'd already leave this topic. MariaB, thanks for providing that link. I was searching for this term last week on another thread (in P&R about those who deny and reject the faculties of basic human conscience, as relating to the theological concept of grieving the Holy Spirit). OP, you are a big red flashing DANGER sign, as an unsafe play partner. Unpredictable, unstable, a potential minefield of volatile triggers just waiting to get set off. You have boasted, 'I have yet to be caught :-)' You downplay your criminal acts. Quintessentially, you know you have been a naughty boy, will continue to be a naughty boy, and have no intention of changing your naughty-boy ways. Yet, there is a part of you which knows that the sands of time are running out, that you are playing Russian roulette with the fundamental freedoms that law-abiding citizens unlike yourself are entitled to enjoy, so you are attracted to BDSM where you can get your punishment fix that will enable you to pay the piper by proxy while you absolve yourself of personal responsibility by putting it all on the dominant's shoulders--the Top who forced you to submit. I believe it is not farfetched to contend that he is the type of personality who would deliberately buck a dominant's authority, in order to provoke a punishment & humiliation response. The red flags I see are warning signs that when (not if) he succumbs to buyer's remorse - during the vulnerable post-play subdrop stage - where he oxymoronically withdraws his consent after the fact, he might claim consent violation(s) and then suffer PTSD-like symptoms of shame, guilt and anxiety. This is one of many reasons why I do not do brats, and why I have always abhorred bratty behavior. (Personally, I believe most male non-dominants/bottoms start out as brats and fantasize about being a Femdom's bitch before they can come to terms with their submissive nature.) Which pales in comparison to what OP has described about himself. Spoiled rotten brats are not cute. There may be dominants and submissives who find it "cute" to refer to high-spiritedness or contrariness as "bratty," but this is not how I use that term. What OP advocates, and was seeking validation from others for, goes far beyond passive-aggressive acting out, thrill-seeking, and poor impulse control. IMO, he is also an instigator, as evidenced by initiating a celebratory thread on his amoral/immoral code of conduct. -- Lisa [Edited for typo]

tamaka -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 10:01:11 AM)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization That's an interesting theory. It is interesting to think about how not only is this done at the individual (micro) level but also at the macro (societal) level. For example, the total, utter complete immorality of killing a baby is 'neutralized and overridden' with arguments about the rights of a woman over her body. It is a way to dismiss the murder of an innocent baby. Yet people who are legalistic would say, well this girl x who aborted her own baby is fine because she didn't break the law (nice how the law is the great neutralizer of what we all know in our conscience is wrong) but Johnny here is a thug because he stole a pencil from Walmart. Geeze.. you know, i don't care if he stole a car... i'd hang out with him any day over sweetcheeks who killed her own kid.

WhoreMods -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 10:42:08 AM)
That's the most specious and facile comparison anybody's produced in six pages of this thread. Congratulations.

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 12:49:06 PM)
I'm glad I'm inspiriting so many different fantasies and speculations about my persona. Honey it seems you don't want to date me then :? My dreams are crushed...

WhoreMods -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 12:50:51 PM)
I wouldn't touch you with a cock you've shoplifted, sonny. Sorry.

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 12:57:30 PM)
Well you're not Honey are you honey? So you're into tease and denial then?

WhoreMods -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 12:59:09 PM)
Put your posts to answer the people you're talking to instead of me, then. Are you honestly so stupid you don't understand how that works?

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 1:00:37 PM)
Humiliation too? I'm getting a hard-on.

WhoreMods -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 1:03:45 PM)
That's nice. I'm getting bored. Thanks for proving that the shoplifting is just attention seeking at heart, though.

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 1:04:33 PM)
Ciao

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 2:07:57 PM)
FR LOL Shoplifting as a social crusade!!! Too fucking funny.

Numerans -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/15/2016 3:33:06 PM)
They say a picture tells a thousand words. So why not a video! Free yourself while shoplifting your most favourite mascara or getting your kid that toy he always wanted! You can have fun while fighting the power. https://submedia.tv/why-i-love-shoplifting-from-big-corporations/ Who will actually watch this video and consider its arguments? :O Plus I can promise you that when you escape a close encounter like that you feel little butterflies all over you.

PeonForHer -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/16/2016 9:30:23 AM)
quote: To the op. You would make the perfect subject for Matza & Sykes’ who wrote at length about people like yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techniques_of_neutralization you’re distorting your own reality by reaching out to people who have the ability to resist and maintaining that what you do is acceptable. Your denial of responsibility and your inappropriate behavior is both primal and greatly lacking in control. We all (even you) understand our moral obligation to remain within the law and most of us have an inbuilt mechanism to resist temptation... You do posses that mechanism but you, unlike most of us, have the ability to silence the urge to follow what you know is morally right. You're inability to suppress your need for excitement and thrill seeking doesn't make you a bad person but it does make you an unstable person and it most certainly makes you an unpredictable person. I must admit I've often thought of that study in relation to motorists who break the speed limit here. But, in that case, I'm not sure we're talking about the majority of people having the ability to resist the temptation.

kiwisub22 -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/16/2016 10:36:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick FR LOL Shoplifting as a social crusade!!! Too fucking funny. agreed! He really had to reach to justify his shoplifting.

tamaka -> RE: One more silly little thread nobody will take seriously (10/16/2016 11:45:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub22 quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick FR LOL Shoplifting as a social crusade!!! Too fucking funny. agreed! He really had to reach to justify his shoplifting. Other things people do are buy things (like carpet cleaners) and then return them within 10 days after they are used. People do this sort of thing all the time (return things they bought and used). They can't be resold so it basically gets claimed out. They are handled the same way as things that are stolen. Empty boxes of condoms are found alot. The empty boxes are sent to claims and claimed out the same way.

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