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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 10:23:45 AM   
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No. It is not. You're excusing female aggression. He was quite within his rights to take whatever steps were necessary

Perhaps it has to do with your concept of necessary. Does that mean that if you raise your hand to strike another and they would be justified to cut your arm off at the shoulder??? Or perhaps shoot you in the head???? Is that the point you are trying to make?





You think it's "necessary" to cut someone's arm off to prevent them striking you?

To correct your understanding, here's the dictionary definition of necessary:

"1. required, needed. Necessary, essential, indispensable, requisite indicate something vital for the fulfillment of a need. Necessary applies to something without which a condition cannot be fulfilled or to an inevitable consequence of certain events, conditions, etc.: Food is necessary to life."

I am happy to have contributed to the reduction of the vast number of things you clearly do not know. Including what "necessary" means.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 10:24:51 AM   
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/10/18/viral-video-of-violent-teen-fight-raises-concerns-in-vallejo/


This is what happens when nobody bothers to teach women that slapping isn't the proper course of action to take when you're angry with a man. What is the poor bugger supposed to do? Just take it and hope no teeth get knocked out?

But oh no, an evil patriarchy demon made him defend himself!


1. This is not a woman and a man. These are children, with hormones rushing through their bodies. If it were two girls or two boys, there would still be uproar.
No there wouldn't. Youtube is replete with videos of same gender violence and nobody says a damn thing.


Not nobody. But, hey, whatever. Use absolutes.

I wouldn't have said anything about this one, either, except that it was shoved in my face.

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3. There is a concept of necessary force. She was wrong. He was wrong for doing exactly what it took to get her to stop (take her to the ground), then leave. Or, he could have tried to turn and leave even prior to that. To engage with another girl to try to get back to the first and continue hurting her while she was on the ground is wrong behavior.
No. It is not. You're excusing female aggression. He was quite within his rights to take whatever steps were necessary and if she didn't want to get hurt THEN SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE STARTED A FIGHT WITH SOMEONE BIGGER THAN SHE IS.

Men understand this. It's about time women stopped thinking they have a pussy pass to be aggressive.



And you understand it wrong. If it were a man on man or woman on woman or dog on dog, I would have said the same thing. That is equality.

I'm not excusing anything. I said she was wrong.



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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 10:29:14 AM   
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No chance of a decent discussion, never mind a conclusion on one of RM's threads, as usual, sadly

Except, here: clearly, some men find women much more of a threat than do others. These sorts of men are so often those who most want to trumpet about just how masculine they are, too. Odd, that.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 10:32:31 AM   
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No chance of a decent discussion, never mind a conclusion on one of RM's threads, as usual, sadly

Except, here: clearly, some men find women much more of a threat than do others. These sorts of men are so often those who most want to trumpet about just how masculine they are, too. Odd, that.
Oh, I get it. So you're saying women can't be as much of a threat as men?

And here I was thinking they were equal and shit. Well you sure schooled me.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 10:56:12 AM   
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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 11:44:25 AM   
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Lucy, that's excellent. You've really given the lie to the idea that feminists tend to babble insane nonsense.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 12:05:52 PM   
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No. It is not. You're excusing female aggression. He was quite within his rights to take whatever steps were necessary

Perhaps it has to do with your concept of necessary. Does that mean that if you raise your hand to strike another and they would be justified to cut your arm off at the shoulder??? Or perhaps shoot you in the head???? Is that the point you are trying to make?





You think it's "necessary" to cut someone's arm off to prevent them striking you?

You said he did what was necessary, which in this case was to knock her unconscious by throwing her to the ground as opposed to stepping out of her way. He "obviously" perceived the necessity of doing so otherwise he would not have done so. By logical extension if you raise your hand to someone they might also perceive that removing your arm at the shoulder was a "necessity".
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if she didn't want to get hurt THEN SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE STARTED A FIGHT WITH SOMEONE BIGGER THAN SHE IS.

If you don't want to have your arm cut off at the shoulder you ought not to raise it in antagonism to someone who might perceive the "necessity" of chopping your arm off at the shoulder to prevent you from being successful.
This goes back to the concept of "appropriate force" which you have previously dismissed.





To correct your understanding, here's the dictionary definition of necessary:

"1. required, needed. Necessary, essential, indispensable, requisite indicate something vital for the fulfillment of a need. Necessary applies to something without which a condition cannot be fulfilled or to an inevitable consequence of certain events, conditions, etc.: Food is necessary to life."

I am happy to have contributed to the reduction of the vast number of things you clearly do not know. Including what "necessary" means.

If this were so then why are you unaware of it, as is evidenced by your post claiming that he did what was necessary. If he did what was necessary the one who chops off your arm at the shoulder is also doing what they feel is necessary.
I am happy to have disabused you of your ignorance in this matter. Much as I have so kindly done in the past when you have exhibited such a low level of understanding of the topic at hand.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 12:08:47 PM   
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Your armour is so thick its rusting from the inside out. Sorry dood.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 2:29:46 PM   
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Eh? Her charging wouldn't have done more than produce a bruise. RM, have you ever played rugby? That was nothing. God, my nieces do that all the time, and they're not much smaller than she is.


This is one of the stupidest things I've seen you say, peon. I find it highly fucking laughable that you seem to believe woman's punches tickle. Ya know, like a man can just take it all while standing there smiling and laughing as a woman punches the fuck out of his face.

Can feminists get any stupider.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 3:00:53 PM   
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Eh? Her charging wouldn't have done more than produce a bruise. RM, have you ever played rugby? That was nothing. God, my nieces do that all the time, and they're not much smaller than she is.


This is one of the stupidest things I've seen you say, peon. I find it highly fucking laughable that you seem to believe woman's punches tickle. Ya know, like a man can just take it all while standing there smiling and laughing as a woman punches the fuck out of his face.



Don't be such a pansy, RM. Not exactly Crocodile Dundee, are you? Strewth, pop goes the 'real man' image you RW Aussies have been carefully cultivating for so long.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 3:43:35 PM   
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Why do feminists take male on female violence so seriously, peon? They'll eventually get over it. Life goes on. Just a few back handers and punches...not like the pain last forever, ay? So why all the fuss about this?

You see what I'm doing, peon? I'm demonstrating the same level of the lack of empathy feminists show for male victims.

So I guess if you want equality, we all should start empathising women the same level as men are empathised.

Now, don't whinge. You wanted equality, now here it is.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/24/2016 5:22:24 PM   
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Why do feminists take male on female violence so seriously, peon? They'll eventually get over it. Life goes on. Just a few back handers and punches...not like the pain last forever, ay? So why all the fuss about this?

You see what I'm doing, peon? I'm demonstrating the same level of the lack of empathy feminists show for male victims.

So I guess if you want equality, we all should start empathising women the same level as men are empathised.

Now, don't whinge. You wanted equality, now here it is.


Ah, right!!

So by your reckoning, a 200lb guy smashing a 100lb chick with a clenched fist on the jaw is just the same as a slap across the face from the 100lb bitch slapping her boyfriend who stands nearly a foot taller than her??
You really think that's an equal comparison??

Men, on average, are 5.5" taller and around 30lb heavier than women. [Source]
Women also tend to have a smaller frame than men too.

So, one against the other is NOT a fair or equal confrontation.
That's why your femenazi arguments are crap and nonsense.


Methinks you are a truly fucked-up dude, RM.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 5:07:38 AM   
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Why do feminists take male on female violence so seriously, peon? They'll eventually get over it. Life goes on. Just a few back handers and punches...not like the pain last forever, ay? So why all the fuss about this?

You see what I'm doing, peon? I'm demonstrating the same level of the lack of empathy feminists show for male victims.

So I guess if you want equality, we all should start empathising women the same level as men are empathised.

Now, don't whinge. You wanted equality, now here it is.



You have to make people point out unpleasant truths to you all the time, don't you?

Female violence is undeniably unacceptable. How many times do you have to hear people say it, before you recognise that they are serious?

Anyone suffering from domestic abuse be they male, female, adult or child requires support (which in most developed countries is available). Report domestic abuse - UK Goverment and Domestic Violence and abuse guidance - UK Government. I've given you the gov.uk links as examples. All people whatever age, gender or sexuality are included. How many times do you have to hear people say that, before you believe that they are sincere?

So far, so good. No sign of any bias or prejudice there.

Now, let's cut straight to the chase and pander a bit to your world view.

Let's forget reports of bruises, breaks, hospitalisations and life-long disability because you think these figures are massaged by the sexist authorities. Let's even pretend that women initiate as much domestic or partner violence as men. Then we can go even further and postulate that the female violence is not reported because men feel ashamed and fail to report, and when they do they are disbelieved and the prejudiced justice system fails to record reports or pursue convictions. We will therefore disregard all the statistics on less than fatal harm because you say that they are a product of systematic bias.

Okay, so far in this imaginary scenario violence and aggression by women is at an equal level to that perpetrated by men, but is is hidden by shame and prejudice. The second part of that statement is certainly true to an extent but the first part is not true. We will fly with it anyway.

The one thing you cannot deny in any way, shape or form is the fact that men kill far more women in domestic violence and partner violence incidents at a far higher level than the other way round. You have to really delve into the government statistics to get past the domestic violence headlines, but women in the UK as an example were four times more likely to be killed by a partner or ex-partner, with the perpetrator almost always being male (as in very high 90 percents). Men were also responsible for a significant number of the male partner killings.

Once you take women killed by partners out of the equation, the two really big groups in the statistics are men killed by friends/acquaintances (not partner or family) and men killed by strangers or unknown. Both of these figures tend to be on a par or higher than the number of women killed by family members (it changes year to year), meaning that more men are murdered overall than women. It should however be noted that these murders are once again overwhelmingly carried out by men.

The real killer (pun intended) is that, contrary to all your bluster, the people who have benefited most from the fall in the numbers of UK murders are men. The murders of men in the combined friends/acquaintances group and the stranger/unknown group has declined by over 40% in the last ten years. Murders of men by their partners has also fallen by about a half, whilst the numbers of women killed by their partners has only fallen by between 10 and 20% (and I had to manipulate the starting year to get the maximum reduction there.)

So men are responsible for the vast majority of murders, and the vast majority of domestic murders.

Also, in the UK at least, the number of men being killed has reduced far more in the last ten years than the number of women being killed, both in absolute terms and by percentage.

Men commit most of the fatal violence and the change in laws, social attitudes, policing and education over the last ten years have provided far greater tangible benefits for men than for women.

You know mate, it's not so bad being a man, even if you have to live with the fact that other men commit most of the serious violence.



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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 9:35:24 AM   
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Can feminists get any stupider.
Well, no. You'd have to be a fucking moron to take their cocktail of lies, half-truths and historical distortions at face value.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 9:36:23 AM   
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Don't be such a pansy, RM. Not exactly Crocodile Dundee, are you? Strewth, pop goes the 'real man' image you RW Aussies have been carefully cultivating for so long.
Ah, feminists. Supporting beneficial patriarchal norms for 150 years.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 9:41:39 AM   
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Ah, right!!
So by your reckoning, a 200lb guy smashing a 100lb chick with a clenched fist on the jaw is just the same as a slap across the face from the 100lb bitch slapping her boyfriend who stands nearly a foot taller than her??
You really think that's an equal comparison??
I think it's fucking irrelevant. Fights occur really quickly and when someone strikes you, your instinct is to either fight or flee.

The average person is not a fucking professional. They're not trained in defensive procedures and your implication that the guy should either just sit there and take it or react purely defensively is another example of you giving a woman a fucking pass for her behaviour because she has a fucking vagina.

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Men, on average, are 5.5" taller and around 30lb heavier than women. [Source]
Women also tend to have a smaller frame than men too.
Yes. So women should probably - oh I dunno - NOT START SHIT THEY CAN'T FINISH.

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So, one against the other is NOT a fair or equal confrontation.
That's why your femenazi arguments are crap and nonsense.
No, it's not. But life isn't fair, you moron, and people learning not to provoke people bigger than they are is a part of social learning. This incident has probably saved her life, because without it, in the fullness of time, she probably would have provoked someone far more dangerous who might have done something far worse.

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Methinks you are a truly fucked-up dude, RM.
Methinks you're a fucking pussy with a pathetic, worshipful attitude towards women.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 9:53:07 AM   
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Why do feminists take male on female violence so seriously, peon? They'll eventually get over it. Life goes on. Just a few back handers and punches...not like the pain last forever, ay? So why all the fuss about this?

You see what I'm doing, peon? I'm demonstrating the same level of the lack of empathy feminists show for male victims.

So I guess if you want equality, we all should start empathising women the same level as men are empathised.

Now, don't whinge. You wanted equality, now here it is.



You have to make people point out unpleasant truths to you all the time, don't you?

Female violence is undeniably unacceptable. How many times do you have to hear people say it, before you recognise that they are serious?
Who exactly is saying this? Because female on male violence is very much socially acceptable and if you examine the responses of the 'feminists' on this board, they pretty much always rationalise female on male violence as being implicitly justified, with "he must have done something to deserve it" as the most common rationalisation.


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Anyone suffering from domestic abuse be they male, female, adult or child requires support (which in most developed countries is available). Report domestic abuse - UK Goverment and Domestic Violence and abuse guidance - UK Government. I've given you the gov.uk links as examples. All people whatever age, gender or sexuality are included. How many times do you have to hear people say that, before you believe that they are sincere?
What the fuck are you talking about? The first domestic violence shelter for women was opened by Erin Pizzey in 1971 - the first domestic violence shelter for MEN in the UK was opened in 2003. And the disparity in support between the two genders is extreme, with 400 refuges supporting 7,500 places for women, NO refuges for men and 60 - yes, fucking 60 - places for men distributed across 5 of the refuges, despite the fact that men represent 40% of the domestic violence victims in the UK.

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So far, so good. No sign of any bias or prejudice there.
Only if you're ignorant of the facts. Like you are, dude. Christ, this is painful.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 11:36:44 AM   
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RM, I'm pretty sure that I've told you this before. I have issues with so-called "news" when it's done from biased journalism. I prefer factual reporting. I don't need the writer to be making up my mind for me by the second paragraph. Also not very warm to articles that use random tweets that have been cherry picked to support the obvious position, but that's just me.

One thing you're skipping about this whole thing that bugs me. Isn't a part of this program supposed to be education for children? I didn't get a firm idea of what grade levels or ages this program is directed to, but regardless of who is the aggressor, or if both adults are non-consensually hitting each other, isn't a part of this thing to teach those little kids that other homes don't solve their problems by people hitting each other? To a six or seven year old, they may not know that. Up until school age, HOME is the influence that child has got. Whatever HOME is, that is their perception of normal. Actually teaching a child that conflicts are not resolved by physical blows, that in other homes, things are handled differently, etc, is one way for them to understand not all parents do those things. It's a way for them to see their "environment" isn't a good thing.

The rest. I'm really rather confused that you are just lost on the fact that males are more often the physical aggressors. I know it's a stereotype, but why do you think men are more likely to get in physical altercations with other men than what women do? Throughout the ages, men have been taught that you win against the opponent by beating them up. If you physically overpower the other, that is the superior position. Women don't tend to use this method. Most women who want to hurt another woman, will do other crap. It's why we get such a wonderful reputation.

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Me as a male gets taken less seriously when I'm a victim of DV compared to a woman.

I think men tend to report less. I've been over and over this with you. At the same time, I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that law enforcement is not taking the reports. It's similar to what some folks have been working with in regard to the BDSM community about taking our reports seriously whether BDSM has been involved in the past or not.

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Me as a male gets taken less serious when I'm a victim of rape compared to a woman.

Again, this is more about people not reporting than law enforcement not taking it seriously. It's a shitty cycle, but the truth is, if more male rape victims reported, more people would take it seriously. Victim shaming is shit and some males are freaking awful about it no matter what gender something happened to. Want to make this better? When you see writings about sexual assault and people are assholes about it, fight that stuff by being the person who just plain says, "I'm sorry that happened to you".

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Me as a male would get less support compared to a woman if I was homeless.

Hmmmm. We have a big problem with that here, too. Male veterans can sometimes get more help in this area, but not always. The USA has an issue because we "treat and street" people with mental illness, so it's compounded with that. This is not an area that I'm exceptionally proud of this country on.

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Men get less government health funding compared to women.

Are you taking out the figures that are related to pregnancy? If you are not, you're kind of being shady here.

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Me as a male would get harsher punishments in the justice system for the same crime compared to a woman.

This one I give you. No debate.

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When it comes to reproductive rights, I have no choices, only responsibilities. Women have choices, even to abandon parenthood altogether.

Sorry/not sorry. You get equal say in pregnancy when you (or medical science) comes up with a way for YOU to carry a child to term. There is not one thing that happens to your physical body during those forty weeks that happens to me. Of course, if you're willing to take a pill every day of those forty weeks that will make you sick, cause your feet to swell, your back to hurt, gain thirty pounds, give you hemorrhoids, screw with your hormones, and all of the rest, I'll be willing to reopen the subject with you. Personal opinion, pregnancy sucks.

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When women complain about anything, the UN, governments, big money corporations, mainstream media listen to them. When men complain about anything, we get told to shut up and stop whining.

Categorically untrue, but I know you have no intention of believing that.

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When women fail in life, using patriarchy as a scapegoat will save them from looking like an idiot. When a man fails in life, he's a loser.

Do you see any of the women on these boards saying they don't have an education because patriarchy? Ability to buy a home? Their most recent car loan? There are companies that some women have a harder time moving up because 'good ole boys club'. Happens less, but it still happens.

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Women get judged far less compared to men for things like having no job, not having a car, not having your own house, living with your parents.

Yep. Frankly, it's still easier for men to get work, even if it's something like day labor. I'm old. I was raised that any honest day's work was worth it, even if you shoveled shit. Can't speak for there, but here, you'd be amazed how many people think certain jobs are "beneath" them. Next time there's a really cool thread about illegal immigrants or migrant farm workers, check out just how many Americans aren't willing to do certain jobs.

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People will give up their seat for women.

Some will, some won't. Give it up for the elderly, more likely.

Do you know who people give their seats up for? People in uniform! (I know this completely blows your theory about people never giving up their seats for men.) Especially on airplanes. Heck, people give up their first class seats, that they paid for, to switch with a guy who is flying coach. It happens a lot.

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Women get free shit for being a woman on dates.

I'll save this for the next thread you do about it. I've told you my position on it several times over the years.

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Women can get sex any time they want.

Yeah, I'll give you this one. I've got a better shot at it than the average guy.

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The empathy gap is the biggest gender privilege of all privileges and women totally own that.

You really should stop speaking like women have a hive mind.

I can't be the only 'priority-thinking' person with boobs on this planet. Stuff like "it's unfair that you can get sex anytime you want and the poor males can't" just doesn't hit as high on the scale as "holy f^ck, this person's ex just killed them" or has been beating the crap out of them for a decade. Yeah, I'm sorry (not really) that people have to pay child support when they had an active role in helping to create that little person and I think able bodied folks should have a job unless their partner (whoever) is going to take up the financial slack. Believe it or not, I think murder is worse than littering or jaywalking, too.

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Women in the western world out privilege men by far. It's absolutely ludicrous to force people to take these anti male bigotry courses while leaving out the most fucking privilege demographic on the planet, western women!

We'll have to agree to disagree. Classes like this do have a purpose. You're just too busy with your gender war to see it.



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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/25/2016 11:41:29 AM   
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You have to make people point out unpleasant truths to you all the time, don't you?

Female violence is undeniably unacceptable. How many times do you have to hear people say it, before you recognise that they are serious?

Anyone suffering from domestic abuse be they male, female, adult or child requires support (which in most developed countries is available). Report domestic abuse - UK Goverment and Domestic Violence and abuse guidance - UK Government. I've given you the gov.uk links as examples. All people whatever age, gender or sexuality are included. How many times do you have to hear people say that, before you believe that they are sincere?

So far, so good. No sign of any bias or prejudice there.

Now, let's cut straight to the chase and pander a bit to your world view.

Let's forget reports of bruises, breaks, hospitalisations and life-long disability because you think these figures are massaged by the sexist authorities. Let's even pretend that women initiate as much domestic or partner violence as men. Then we can go even further and postulate that the female violence is not reported because men feel ashamed and fail to report, and when they do they are disbelieved and the prejudiced justice system fails to record reports or pursue convictions. We will therefore disregard all the statistics on less than fatal harm because you say that they are a product of systematic bias.

Okay, so far in this imaginary scenario violence and aggression by women is at an equal level to that perpetrated by men, but is is hidden by shame and prejudice. The second part of that statement is certainly true to an extent but the first part is not true. We will fly with it anyway.

The one thing you cannot deny in any way, shape or form is the fact that men kill far more women in domestic violence and partner violence incidents at a far higher level than the other way round. You have to really delve into the government statistics to get past the domestic violence headlines, but women in the UK as an example were four times more likely to be killed by a partner or ex-partner, with the perpetrator almost always being male (as in very high 90 percents). Men were also responsible for a significant number of the male partner killings.

Once you take women killed by partners out of the equation, the two really big groups in the statistics are men killed by friends/acquaintances (not partner or family) and men killed by strangers or unknown. Both of these figures tend to be on a par or higher than the number of women killed by family members (it changes year to year), meaning that more men are murdered overall than women. It should however be noted that these murders are once again overwhelmingly carried out by men.

The real killer (pun intended) is that, contrary to all your bluster, the people who have benefited most from the fall in the numbers of UK murders are men. The murders of men in the combined friends/acquaintances group and the stranger/unknown group has declined by over 40% in the last ten years. Murders of men by their partners has also fallen by about a half, whilst the numbers of women killed by their partners has only fallen by between 10 and 20% (and I had to manipulate the starting year to get the maximum reduction there.)

So men are responsible for the vast majority of murders, and the vast majority of domestic murders.

Also, in the UK at least, the number of men being killed has reduced far more in the last ten years than the number of women being killed, both in absolute terms and by percentage.

Men commit most of the fatal violence and the change in laws, social attitudes, policing and education over the last ten years have provided far greater tangible benefits for men than for women.

You know mate, it's not so bad being a man, even if you have to live with the fact that other men commit most of the serious violence.




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You know mate, it's not so bad being a man, even if you have to live with the fact that other men commit most of the serious violence.


Yep. I like the power. Of course I do, though plenty of it has a down side. I have few misgivings about that latter when we're talking of power in the sense of purely physical strength, though. Or, at least, not so much that any disadvantages outweigh the benefits. I like having muscles and I like exercising them.

For me, a lot of this boils down to 'with power comes responsibility'. A woman doesn't have the same level of responsibility to avoid *certain sorts of specific violent angry outbursts* because the power behind them isn't as great and won't do as much damage (if, indeed, any damage at all). Thus an angry slap on the face is ... negligible. (Although use of a weapon, or even of a skillfully used fist, is not.) But I don't think I could slap a woman on the face in anger and assume it would do no damage. So I take the appropriate level of responsibility and don't slap her in anger, ever. Simples.


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