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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 2:01:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		More than anything, its fucking females who need to be taught not to be violent.

Young girls are raised to believe that it's acceptable and/or funny to slap men for simply saying something females don't like. They see it all the time in TV.

In any real life situation when its done, the impressions of many is that he probably deserved it. I've provided loads of evidence on this in the past in this forum.

Yet, that's all ignored because feminists/society don't give a flying fuck about males.

As for being called a whiny bitch, ummm what about the fucking feminists trying to enforce this course on young school boys? Oh thats all okay but to mention the other side of the story on a forum is bad?

Haha. Jesus you leftists are degranged twats.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 2:06:38 PM   
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Young girls are raised to believe that it's acceptable and/or funny to slap men for simply saying something females don't like. They see it all the time in TV.

There's no media images at all of men hitting women, then?

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 2:13:22 PM   
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More than anything, its fucking females who need to be taught not to be violent.

Young girls are raised to believe that it's acceptable and/or funny to slap men for simply saying something females don't like. They see it all the time in TV.

In any real life situation when its done, the impressions of many is that he probably deserved it. I've provided loads of evidence on this in the past in this forum.

Yet, that's all ignored because feminists/society don't give a flying fuck about males.

As for being called a whiny bitch, ummm what about the fucking feminists trying to enforce this course on young school boys? Oh thats all okay but to mention the other side of the story on a forum is bad?

Haha. Jesus you leftists are degranged twats.


RM, do you really think this initiative is going to be like that in practice? Firstly, we're talking about young children here. They're going to spot something that feels unfair to them and argue about it. Secondly, it's going to be delivered by people who won't generally be 'radical feminists' (in most people's sense of that term), but professional educators and the like. Thirdly, it's well-established now that females can be, and often are, violent. Only the supremely blinkered believe otherwise. It would do no good for the aim of reducing domestic violence against females to ignore that, anyway, because violence *by* females can bring about violence *on* them by males. In general, this initiative just doesn't sound as brainlessly unsophisticated as you're implying here.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 2:23:47 PM   
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More than anything, its fucking females who need to be taught not to be violent.

They are being taught to defend themselves against men who won't take No for an answer.
For centuries, they have had to put up violence from men for no other reason than the men have had a sense of self-importance and self-entitlement to behave that way with impunity.
The worm has turned; and about time too.

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Young girls are raised to believe that it's acceptable and/or funny to slap men for simply saying something females don't like. They see it all the time in TV.

Because TV is portraying some sort of reality.
A lot of misogynistic men still seem to think they have women as chattel and they should be seen and not heard - under their thumb.
And yes, if the men are out of line, they are quite within their rights to give the man a fucking slap.
If it was a fellow man getting out of line, it would be a knuckle sandwich.
But because it's a WOMAN retaliating, you get all pissy about it.
Fucking live with it.

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In any real life situation when its done, the impressions of many is that he probably deserved it.

And that's probably true in more than 95% of cases.

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I've provided loads of evidence on this in the past in this forum.

Nothing that wasn't extremely biased.

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Yet, that's all ignored because feminists/society don't give a flying fuck about males.

Society does.
But not in the same way that you'd like to see it.

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As for being called a whiny bitch, ummm what about the fucking feminists trying to enforce this course on young school boys? Oh thats all okay but to mention the other side of the story on a forum is bad?

To keep beating the same old worn-out and highly biased drum gets monotonous.
And yes, boys need to be taught they can't be misogynists without consequences.

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Haha. Jesus you leftists are degranged twats.

I'm not a leftist.
It's not a left/right/centrist/liberal thing.
It's your one man crusade to go back to Victorian times where men ruled the roost.

Sorry, times are changing for the better.
For you to keep pissing, moaning and incessantly whining about it shows you are nothing more than a whiny douchecanoe.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 2:25:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		If the OP would just look up statistics for men abusing partners and women abusing partners and get back to us with the break down. Oddly enough, I have a strong feeling that more men are aggressively involved with domestic abuse than women. Please note that I did say more men than women - I'm not giving women a complete pass with this one.

and if women were paid the same hourly wage for the same jobs as men, I would be tickled pink.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:09:51 PM   
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man-hating feminists


Yes, there it is again. I knew it couldn't be long.
Claiming predictive ability you don't possess is desperate, although I can understand why you might try and impress people by doing so. Man up, son - you're more pathetic than usual.

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You talk about 'man-hating feminists' .... as opposed to your own love of all males, which is to be seen overflowing from you like the summer's sun, in every post that you write? Hmmm? Strewth, old chap. Every feminist here has shown more compassion for men in general than you've *ever* shown, even once, to anybody.
Son, I don't hate men, I just despise weak-minded pussies. If you fall into that group and are all butt-hurt about it, go tell a feminist and see if she cares. Five bucks says she won't. Weak men like yourself are useful to feminists - but you're not loved or respected. Ye Gods, son - haven't you been paying attention?

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Balls.
A compelling rebuttal which would no doubt be praised in the halls of British academia, but son - you're in the real world, not in some cloistered safe space swaddled in cotton wool so your little feelings don't get hurt.

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All you ever do here is try to assert yourself for narcissistic and/or sadistic reasons, like any sociopathic troll, while at the same time trying your *absolute damnedest* to convince us all that your lack of empathy and the putrid hatred you show for everybody - females and males alike - is somehow the (essential masculine) virtue.
No I don't. You're wrong, a liar and jealous. Despite your sense of moral superiority, you struggle with the fact that women not only like men such as myself, they want them.

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You are a fruitcake with a major bit missing, Awareness. I'm sorry, but there it is.
Oh please. Your butt-hurt little sub-male jealousy is amusing as fuck to me. Go cry into your chastity belt, you fucking wimp.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:11:44 PM   
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If the OP would just look up statistics for men abusing partners and women abusing partners and get back to us with the break down. Oddly enough, I have a strong feeling that more men are aggressively involved with domestic abuse than women. Please note that I did say more men than women - I'm not giving women a complete pass with this one.
Well, I'm afraid you've got a problem there because women are more abusive than men and lesbian relationships have the highest rates of violence.

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and if women were paid the same hourly wage for the same jobs as men, I would be tickled pink.
Since the 1960's it's been illegal to pay women a lower hourly rate. Women earn less because they do less.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:16:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		http://www.opdv.ny.gov/professionals/abusers/genderandipv.html - real actual statistics, not imaginary figures picked out of your head. I'm getting the sense that you have issues with women. Probably a uterus envy thing......................

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:19:11 PM   
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If the OP would just look up statistics for men abusing partners and women abusing partners and get back to us with the break down. Oddly enough, I have a strong feeling that more men are aggressively involved with domestic abuse than women. Please note that I did say more men than women - I'm not giving women a complete pass with this one.

and if women were paid the same hourly wage for the same jobs as men, I would be tickled pink.

I was going to guess at about 10:1 - but I would have been wrong.

Recent figure from the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) in the UK:

Female (2015-16)
Convictions: 5,641 (70.6%). Unsuccessful: 2,351 (29.4%). Total: 7,992.

Male (2014-2015)
Convictions: 63,675 (74.3%). Unsuccessful: 22,012 (25.7%). Total: 85,687.

From these figures, you can see that females have a LOWER conviction percentage than males, but only by 4%.
That's one up for the guys isn't it??

But look at the numbers....
5,641 women convicted compared to 63,675 for men.
So... out of a grand total of 93,679 DV crimes, about 8.5% are from women, the remaining 91.5% originate from men.

But RM is giving a free pass to over 91% of DV crimes and only wants to hi-lite less than 10% of them because they are from WOMEN!!

I don't see RM coming up with ANY legit cites and stats that support his misogynistic tirade.



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Well, I'm afraid you've got a problem there because women are more abusive than men

I'm afraid you have a denial problem there.
The stats don't support you.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:25:59 PM   
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If the OP would just look up statistics for men abusing partners and women abusing partners and get back to us with the break down. Oddly enough, I have a strong feeling that more men are aggressively involved with domestic abuse than women. Please note that I did say more men than women - I'm not giving women a complete pass with this one.
Well, I'm afraid you've got a problem there because women are more abusive than men and lesbian relationships have the highest rates of violence.

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and if women were paid the same hourly wage for the same jobs as men, I would be tickled pink.
Since the 1960's it's been illegal to pay women a lower hourly rate. Women earn less because they do less.



Could you explain what you mean here?

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:31:50 PM   
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http://www.pedestrian.tv/news/arts-and-culture/vic-schools-will-teach-courses-on-male-privilege--/1391d6ce-b546-4b9b-91e0-efedaa2782b2.htm

As always, when it comes from feminism or the left in general, it;s always one fucking sided when it comes to gender issues. What else can you expect from the biggest offenders of the empathy gap?

Here's the real funny part, western women are more privileged than western men for fucks sake. Yet, all that ever gets talked about is male privilege while female privilege remains a taboo subject (you're a misogynist waahhh) and for that it gives the said female privileges immunity .That's a female privilege within it's self.

Me as a male gets taken less seriously when I'm a victim of DV compared to a woman.

Me as a male gets taken less serious when I'm a victim of rape compared to a woman.

Me as a male would get less support compared to a woman if I was homeless.

Men get less government health funding compared to women.

Me as a male would get harsher punishments in the justice system for the same crime compared to a woman.

When it comes to reproductive rights, I have no choices, only responsibilities. Women have choices, even to abandon parenthood altogether.

When women complain about anything, the UN, governments, big money corporations, mainstream media listen to them. When men complain about anything, we get told to shut up and stop whining.

When women fail in life, using patriarchy as a scapegoat will save them from looking like an idiot. When a man fails in life, he's a loser.

Women get judged far less compared to men for things like having no job, not having a car, not having your own house, living with your parents.

People will give up their seat for women.

Women get free shit for being a woman on dates.

Women can get sex any time they want.

The empathy gap is the biggest gender privilege of all privileges and women totally own that.

Women in the western world out privilege men by far. It's absolutely ludicrous to force people to take these anti male bigotry courses while leaving out the most fucking privilege demographic on the planet, western women!



I think his real problem is highlighted above.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:49:23 PM   
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Son, I don't hate men, I just despise weak-minded pussies. If you fall into that group and are all butt-hurt about it, go tell a feminist and see if she cares. Five bucks says she won't. Weak men like yourself are useful to feminists - but you're not loved or respected. Ye Gods, son - haven't you been paying attention?


Yes, Grandad, you do hate men. You've shown it every time you've posted - you can't even *stop* yourself hating men. (And women - but that's another story.) You couldn't even stop yourself giving me yet more evidence of it in this, your last post.

You are a sociopathic troll, Awareness. And, as previously mentioned: you are a fruitcake.




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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 3:52:37 PM   
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I'm afraid you have a denial problem there.
The stats don't support you.


Oh, women slap men more often than men break women's faces. Lies, damned lies and statistics. You know the drill, FD.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:11:43 PM   
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here are this is the FBI figures for 2015.




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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:12:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Since the 1960's it's been illegal to pay women a lower hourly rate. Women earn less because they do less. "

Do you realize in how few cases that is true ? Physically, usually they cannot do as much hard physical labor. The local bricklayers union is crying for female applicants and the companies know it. Years ago they sponsored in a friend of mine, and she used to play football, yet could not physically handle the job. She became an electrician instead.

But even with the disparity in physical strength there is still another difference. They do not negotiate as well.

And about it being illegal since the 1960s, that means nothing. Twp guys could have the same job and the one with more experience or better performance will get paid more if he has the moxy to make them pay. A company can say anything about the quality or quantity of work anyone is putting out and explain a pay discrepancy without a problem.

The only times that applies is like on an assembly line or a few other jobs, which are production and are being phased out in this country because nobody wants to, or knows how to make anything anymore.

So when you are talking like in an office, how do you enforce that ? How does one find out exactly how much work and of what quality a male worker produces while supposedly doing her job ? She wouldn't have time to work.

It is simply unenforceable.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:20:58 PM   
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I posted the arrest figures for violent crime from the FBI with much the same gap FD..
here are this is the FBI figures for 2015.


Ah, thanks, Lucy. Yes, those figures are not counterintuitive.

I wonder if, say, a woman coming up to one and kissing one's cheek unexpectedly and *without express permission and consent* is included in those 'other assault' figures? If not, it should be. Very traumatic.

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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:25:09 PM   
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http://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/children/childabuse/women-more-violent-and-controlling-than-men-various-studies-find/2366/




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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:25:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well they are only the arrests, with the non reporting that goes on, it must go on with men too, but to claim that men suffer from sex assualt by women more than men is just utter bullshit.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 5:50:26 PM   
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A very quick reply.

http://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/children/childabuse/women-more-violent-and-controlling-than-men-various-studies-find/2366/




Versus this:

"The overwhelming majority of acts of domestic violence and sexual assault are perpetrated by men against women, and this violence is likely to have more severe impacts on female than male victims."

http://www.ourwatch.org.au/Understanding-Violence/Facts-and-figures


Something to be sorted out re this apparent conflict of stats, I think.


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RE: Signs of sanity: Australians outraged over abusive ... - 10/17/2016 6:12:12 PM   
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Son, I don't hate men, I just despise weak-minded pussies. If you fall into that group and are all butt-hurt about it, go tell a feminist and see if she cares. Five bucks says she won't. Weak men like yourself are useful to feminists - but you're not loved or respected. Ye Gods, son - haven't you been paying attention?


Yes, Grandad, you do hate men. You've shown it every time you've posted - you can't even *stop* yourself hating men. (And women - but that's another story.) You couldn't even stop yourself giving me yet more evidence of it in this, your last post.

You are a sociopathic troll, Awareness. And, as previously mentioned: you are a fruitcake.






Oh my God, call him Grandad again. That actually kind of turns me on.

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