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Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:35:20 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		I was wondering if it is common thing to see suspicious profiles that seem way to good to be true in one context and downright frightening in another.

For instance there is a profile which would remain nameless (per the rules I believe) but it basically is as follows:
The profile was posted in the last week.
The picture is of a very attractive woman.
The profile essentially implies that she is a female slave and wants an owner as a lifetime commitment.
She needs to move very soon and wants her new owner to cover half the costs of moving which she says is fair.

Ok so at first I thought 'Hrm it would be nice to have a slave around, not as my Pet but the wife has been wanting a female plaything'. Then my brain kicked in and thought 'Wait a minute, how could splitting the cost be fair since that implies an equal relationship. Either the slave pays it all as the price of comming to her Master or the Master pays it all as a show of taking responsibility for the slave.' So then the clue bat hit me in the head and I thought 'Scam'.

Now admitedly I have only looked through about 30 to 40 profiles, and there are a wide range of people and needs. And maybe, just maybe, this person really is all that she says she is and some Master/Mistress is about to end up with a smoking hot redhead to serve thier every whim.

Since I was able to see the profile I assume that someone reviewed it so it did not violate the TOS for the site but still, it seems a bit off to me.

Are there other who have noticed profiles like this, a seemingly forced move, short time frame, request for money, atractive bait, and willing to be with almost anyone it seems?


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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:40:00 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Sometimes, yeah, that has seemed to be the case. But I always like reading a person's fourm posts, if I find myself interested in them (right now, as a friend). People may or may not ever post (for whatever reason) - and I can only say for me, while I do understand that, I still like reading posts - because I feel I get to know them a wee bit via their posts, and it makes me less wary of them in general (if I was).  

If this profile is screaming Con job to you, it might be one, I think. It might not be, but better safe than sorry, especially when there are hundreds of thousands of members to choose from here, huh?
Just my two cents. - Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/23/2006 2:50:19 AM >

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:48:13 AM   
nephandi


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Status: offline 		i think it is wise to be wery careful Sir when saying somone else is a scam, i have been told i am a fake since somone else have a profile whit the same collors in the writing as mine, though at first glase, it do sound like to woman you describes is looking for a cheap way to move, it is not nessesary so, remember what is fair to you might not be fair to her and the other way around, she may be legit and think that it is a good solution that the Master cover half her travel cost.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:50:12 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		True, as for me I am satisfied with following my gut instincts and letting it pass but I wanted to know if others who have read a lot more of the profiles had seen ones like it. Or if there had been ones like it in the past that turned out to be the real deal.

Really I am not trying to pass judgment on her, my mind is made up so the judgement is already there for me alone.

I just wanted to see, as a general question, if similar things had been seen around and how they turned out.


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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:54:17 AM   
WayWardSoul


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Status: offline 		It might be as she says and just tried out a Dom that didn't work and gave up everything to get there. but the red flag for me would be if she is in that big of a hurry to move ( maybe before the end of the month) and she just jumps at the next thing that comes along how soon before she is ready to do it again. If you really want to know if she is telling the truth, tell her you get a  her you can only put the money toward a ticket, and no cash

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:56:57 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Well, if they never post, or otherwise are online, I have to wonder how serious they are in terms of learning more or(eventually) finding a partner. Some do like to chat (I am one of those), but - to me it would be like joining Match.com or eHarmony and never, ever checking in to see what other people there are like, or learn anything about anyone else, or the topic(s) at hand. Granted, they might be very involved in their "local scene" and that wouldn't show here at all, or may just lead very busy lives.

But - I tend to feel about people never, ever bothering  to post anything about like I feel when I read a profile with two sentences in it. Maybe I have a writing fetish (but I don't think so). To me, posting in a forum here, or having a well-written (or at least longer than a sentence or two) profile is some guage, to a degree, of how "into" this whole idea of bdsm a person might actually be, or whether it's some fly-by-night "hobby" of theirs they aren't all that interested in finding out more about, if it's going to take longer than about ten minutes (which is also, perhaps, some indication of what kind of partner, or even friend, they may be).

Some may feel differently. To them, this might be just a numbers game. They get a mediocre (or really bad) profile up, never post - and see what happens; with the least amount of work on their part. If it works for them, fine. It just doesn't necessarily work for me. 

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/23/2006 3:30:16 AM >

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:57:25 AM   
ExSteelAgain


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Status: offline 		I hate that crap when the greedy real world raises its head on our friendly, philosophical world of CM.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:57:48 AM   
enigmabrat


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Status: offline 		always be weary when someone is asking for money

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 2:59:36 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		It sucks. I really does.

- Susan

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:06:23 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		As nephandi pointed out, it is only in my mind that the fairness of the request seems wrong to me. It is my value judgement. To others it may be fine. Money is a real world concern and I don't think it is out of place in some circumstances to ask for monetary help, though they would be under my terms being Dom and all.

Also, to be clear, I am not calling her a scam, I tried to make it clear that everyone has unique circumstances and just because it crossed my mind does not make it reality.

The hope with the topic was to see if others who had been here a lot longer had seen profiles like this and if they knew things had turned out. Either by the Positive Experiences section or thier own contact with the person.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:09:57 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Well, if she was smart, she'd know there are other ways to get herself to you (like you come and get her, for one) without demanding you give her half of any dleivery and-or moving expenses up front. I think it screams Scam, and maybe I am a meanie, but the fact she "needs to move this week" (or soon) is also a tip off. Her chaotic life is not your problem - it's hers, considering you don't know her from a hole in the ground. I don't care how pretty she is.

- Susan 

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/23/2006 3:12:48 AM >

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:12:58 AM   
Gallantnimrod


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Status: offline 		Savage-
  I can't begin to tell You how many times I've heard and actually talked to subbies that have moved halfway across the country to be with the "One". Once there gave over all their money and posessions to this "Dom" and got thrown into the street on their ass, without even cab fare.
  It doesn't seem like unreasonable request to Me, but you really should trust Your gut. Perhaps before making the move permanent, a week or two tryout period would be in order. At the most You'd be out some groceries.
                                              Respectfully-MM

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:13:52 AM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		OK, let me get this straight.

There are phony profiles on Collarme?

Whoda thunk it?

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:15:47 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		Heh, this is a fact, chaos is unavoidable at times but I would not want to get into something 24/7 based off a starting point of chaos. Perhaps if I were just out of college and single the chaos might be fun and leave me with some really good stories, or missing a few hundred which might be a funny story in and of itself with time. But right now I seek just a tad bit less chaos. 

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:16:48 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		I'm sorry, I may have misunderstood. I thought she was contacting Dominants she did not know, kind of getting them interested, and then saying she needs to move now - and demanding moving expenses. That would sound like a scam to me. If she has been burned, and it's not like she is preying on people she doens't know at all first, I could be wrong. I'd still be wary.

**Question: Why do people want Dominants from across the country if they can't afford to move? I am not trying to sound mean or elitist, or like I think people don't have a right to expand their search however they see fit, but - personally, if I could not afford to move, I'd be looking locally only, I really would.

There seems to be a bit of presumption going on here, on her part. Maybe some Dominants pay moving expenses, some might not. Just out of a sense of keeping reign over some of my own destiny, I'd prefer to do that myself (honestly). Plus, I don't need the help. If I did, I might well ask. But it's not a rigid expectation.   

- Susan

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/23/2006 3:31:02 AM >

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:21:43 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		Well the fact of phonies is a given since it is humans posting them (in most cases). But this particular type of profile is what I was wondering about. Mainly just my curiosity at work.

And Gallantnimrod, the limits of human behaviour is unbounded and yet still manages to suprise me at times. Maybe I am just still a bit naive which is nice since I thought I had become as jaded as possible to the actions of people.. ah new areas to explore it seems.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:27:43 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		Well, since I do not wish to violate the TOS and yet I am still curious so I try to be as close to the edge to explain as well as I can. I found her profile so she did not contact me.

I think that if I had found someone I thought might be my Pet I would certainly be willing to pay to have her come to me. In my mind as I said before I would consider it part of me taking responsibility for her. Maybe for a weeklong visit or something. It is not that expensive and I have paid to fly a friends girlfriend here to visit before.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:32:40 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Okay then, of curse I do not wish to sound jaded or like a meanie (and am not either, in fact). Has she posted anything - ever - here, at all? How long has she been a "member"? Be careful, though. Maybe hopeful, but careful, is my best
advice. Good luck.

*My other question is stilll a question, if anyone wants to comment: Is it wrong to expect a Dominant from across the country to pay all moving expenses, if one knows they cannot afford to move, and knew that from the outset of searching for a partner? I guess that depends on the Dominant, but it is a real question of mine...

- Susan  

< Message edited by SusanofO -- 7/23/2006 3:37:04 AM >

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:38:35 AM   
SavageEu


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Status: offline 		Well, man I am treading so close to the 'Don't talk bad about other users' mark but I think its ok to state the profile was made within the last week. So it was very sudden it seems. And no I have not noticed any posts on the forum.

Hopefulness is irrelevant though, I think that adding someone that soon (in less than 8 days) would just be beyond what I am willing to do. Maybe if it were 2 or 3 months I might try to get to know her but, the time frame is too short for me. Maybe someone will get a wonderful slave though. If nothing else she would be fit to dress up and hang on a wall as a peice of art.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:41:43 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		She sounds hot. If so, with any luck she'll be hot 2 months from now, too.
Good luck, honey.

- Susan 

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And sings the tune without the words,
And never stops at all". - Emily Dickinson

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