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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:44:44 AM

SavageEu

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In response to your question about moving costs. To me, I would not say I would expect it but if I have found someone I care about and fits well with me and I wanted them, then yes I would be willing to pay for a move. I might require that they only take a bare minimum with them. I mean if I am seriously taking on a Pet I would be making her collar which is no small expense and probably far more than a plane ticket. Now if she wanted to bring her bedroom set, an entertainment center, and her curios cabinet that weighs 500 lbs that might take some discussion. It is mear money to me, it might take time to save but money is nothing compared to the heart of my Pet.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:47:33 AM

SusanofO

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Okay, thanks for the reply. And good luck to you!

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 3:52:56 AM

lilninotchka

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SavageEu

I was wondering if it is common thing to see suspicious profiles that seem way to good to be true in one context and downright frightening in another.

For instance there is a profile which would remain nameless (per the rules I believe) but it basically is as follows:
The profile was posted in the last week.
The picture is of a very attractive woman.
The profile essentially implies that she is a female slave and wants an owner as a lifetime commitment.
She needs to move very soon and wants her new owner to cover half the costs of moving which she says is fair.

Ok so at first I thought 'Hrm it would be nice to have a slave around, not as my Pet but the wife has been wanting a female plaything'. Then my brain kicked in and thought 'Wait a minute, how could splitting the cost be fair since that implies an equal relationship. Either the slave pays it all as the price of comming to her Master or the Master pays it all as a show of taking responsibility for the slave.' So then the clue bat hit me in the head and I thought 'Scam'.

Now admitedly I have only looked through about 30 to 40 profiles, and there are a wide range of people and needs. And maybe, just maybe, this person really is all that she says she is and some Master/Mistress is about to end up with a smoking hot redhead to serve thier every whim.

Since I was able to see the profile I assume that someone reviewed it so it did not violate the TOS for the site but still, it seems a bit off to me.

Are there other who have noticed profiles like this, a seemingly forced move, short time frame, request for money, atractive bait, and willing to be with almost anyone it seems?

Don't know how common, but there is at least one scammer here...or was. A friend got taken for almost $500 before he 'got a clue'. Tried to warn him, but he was so taken with the (almost definitely fake) picture and smooth words, innocent and viable sounding reasons why she just couldn't come to him that amounted to 'she needs some money'. He fell for it, ignored the 'if it sounds too good to be true...' advice and got taken for a ride. Please be careful.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 4:06:07 AM

KennelDeSade2

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Scam. I'd bet money on it.
As for me, I'd be happy in most cases to pay the entire transport cost. Well, let's say "reimburse" them for the costs once they got off the theoretical plane.
But I also consider them finding a way, and making their own way to me to be one of the requirements of any possible agreement. After all, if they aren't driven enough, or smart enough to get here on their own. . . Why would I want them?

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 4:10:04 AM

SavageEu

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Well the picture is a good one, well lighted, wonderful shadows. But then not everyone has crappy webcams like me and if you were trying to attract someone quickly a pro photo would be a good choice. Hell attracking someone with clear photos would work better than my good old washed out blur. Oh its so damn early and now my sadistic streak wants to mail her just to see what she says. Thats a good idea in fact. Or thats a good idea after 24 hours of no sleep. Haha, maybe I could get her C.O.D. Oh yea, getting silly, rocks will be funny before long.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 4:16:08 AM

SavageEu

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And that is the other side of the coin as I said in my first post, it is something I have thought about but not really decided. In all honesty it would probably depend on my mood and my patience. If it has come to the point where she visited, and we clicked, and she really was ready to move but finances were in the way I would not want her to ask her family or get a loan to do it. I think having a potential Pet put aside money for a possible move would be acceptable. And if things didn't work out the worst that would happen is that she would have a few hundred saved up for something else. Hrm.. the more I think in my half awake state the better that sounds, thanks KennelDeSade2.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 5:05:21 AM

SusanofO

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That's nice of you to say, Kennel. Personally, when I start seeking a partner, I will be looking all over the country. But - I've got a car and 10 rooms of furniture to move (unless I sell some of it first, which I guess I could do). But that is probably going to cost at least 3-5K - to move it all (I checked), depending on the location, but it's not going to be less than 2K, that's for sure). Also, I will probably need my own house, (perhaps, it all depends) because I have two (well-behaved, for the most part, yet medium-sized to large) dogs I just cannot part with. Still interested? Didn't think so, hehe. I am teasing you, btw.

- Susan

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 5:07:32 AM

WhiteRadiance

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I have seen several profiles that raise red flags with me. The one that I will never forget was a Mistress who wanted a slave who owned a home and property and she wanted to move in with him within a week.

I think desperate people will use any avenue to avoid a situation or put themselves into a new one. I have had offers from several subs willing to uproot and move in with me, dispite the fact that I clearly state that I am not seeking 24/7, or a live in.

I also must say that I have met a handful of people RT from CM and none of them post on the forums. I also am in close contact with 2 Mistresses who do not post either. They are all very real people, but some people have busy lives. Maybe they do not think anyone wants to hear their opinions. There are any numbers of reasons people will not post. My slaveboy told me yesterday, after being on the forums one day, that he did not think he will last long. I was here a long time before I bothered to post. After reading some of these forums, I felt like I would not be accepted.

There are a lot of players out there. I have been approached by several Mistresses and femsubs who request pictures and want details of "what I will do to them". If it smells, I walk around it.

Of course, that's just MHO

Ms.Staci

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 5:20:12 AM

nephandi

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SavageEU Sir i do not think it is wrong for you to see it as unfair for her to ask for money help in moving, i think we all have our own opinions and diferent value systems but none is more fair or better than the other. me for example, i would have demaned to be aloved to take my pets whit me, i will not abandon them, that might seam demanding and bratty to some, but to me, it is a resposibility i have taken on, to own another life i will not abandon that life.

Aslo i dont think you instincta are nessesary wrong sir. To many profiles on this forum is, pardon the expression, crap, i just wanted to say tat one should not judge to early as i was wery sad when somone juded me wrongly.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 5:47:43 AM

RavenMuse

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Whilst I wouldn't say catagoricaly that such profiles ARE scams.... they leave you too open to it being one for ME to ever take that risk. But then there is a reason why I predominantly look Localy!

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 6:10:07 AM

PlayfulOne

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fast reply

Who knows? I saw a profile a couple of days ago for someone who wanted to find a Master and relocate before the end of the month (when her lease was up, or so the profile said). My thoughts are whether it is a scam or not, that is awfully quick to move someone you do not know into your home. There is just too much potential for disaster.

We get mail often from people, especialy in the mid west, who wish to come and "serve". What they are really after, a trip to FL and to live by the beach for awhile. Remeber choose your partners carefully.

K

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 6:13:02 AM

MasterC46910

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There are scammers on here as on every other site on the web. They are getting better about seeming real. Sometimes it turns out to be someone that is in need and is willing to jump at anyone willing to give them a place to live. Most times it is not. YOU are the one that has to decide to take the chance on them. They are not all after money either, sometimes they just want your off site email address so they can sell it to spammers.

But life it full of chances and adventure. Just how interesting and exciting would life be if it was all safe with money back guarantees?

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 6:22:54 AM

Caretakr

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What's even worse is when they actually do move in, and turn out to be a nutcase or a sponger. Or both

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 7:30:54 AM

mellian

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I tend to automaticly assume most profiles if not all that got me interested are to good to be true and deceptive. Profiles are just like resumes, but instead seeking to attract another person which on this site is for bdsm reasons, so like resumes people will try to make themselves look as good as possible even to the point of dishonesty to some degree. Then of course there are the scammers and the "i really just want sex" profiles too. Overall, best way to know a person is in person.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 9:28:40 AM

popeye1250

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Would you mail money to a stranger in any other case?
I'd be (very) wary of a situation like this!
And how do you know the picture is of her?
Susan is right of course in asking if this person has posted in here. It would give you a better idea of what kind of person she is.
You're really taking a chance of getting a "pig in a poke" there! As others have said she could be a nutcase.
One thing if I were you I'd want a LOT more info first.
Also, I believe in each partner having their own seperate finances and assets.
As a Dom what right do I have to a sub or slave's money?
It's just better to keep finances seperate and out of the relationship in my view.
All the councillors and lawyers would agree with that I'm sure.
That would adress the "sub being thrown out on the street with nothing."

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 11:31:22 AM

SavageEu

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Actually I have thought about it too, I would much rather a Pet have her own 'nest egg' of a few thousand from a part time job, or better yet a full time job with health benefits so that if things did not work out she would have a way to move to whereever she needed to start over again.

And really I have no need to control her money in terms of using it to my own ends, though I would put my foot down if she wanted to buy something I did not want her to buy. 'No you can not have another unicorn figurine!' hehe, but I think that is a differnce, using her money for me vs telling her how she can use her money for herself for smaller things. I would want her to have a safety net just in case. My goal is not to keep her with me out of sheer inability for her to pay to move away.

Nephandi:
I understand what you are saying but for me of course my value system is better than the others or I would not hold it. Why cling to the inferior. But I do my best to respect other opinions because I know they hold theirs with the same status. I keep an open mind and if someone proves me wrong to my satisfaction I am more than willing to change.

As for making judgments about others, it is in the same realm. I can not help but make judgements about those that I see. Not prejudging mind you, but based off thier words and actions I come to conclusions. As above, I try to keep an open mind in the sense that new information might change this judgment and I never forget the fact that I might be wrong. I do wish we could all judge each other and arrive at the truth each time but humans err at times. Quite a lot of the time.

I remember one girl I talked to and she asked me what I thought of her and I told her I thought she was the most normal person I knew. She seemed very hurt by this and after talking to her over the course of a few days I realized that she was far from the most normal. But the first impression from what I had read was still valid. After all I only had the words I had seen to make a judgement, she was still interesting enough to talk to though and through learning more about her my mind changed.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 11:39:11 AM

NastyDaddy

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Sounds like ''cocksation'', and apparently the catalytic photograph ensures prolongation of the ''cocksation'' sensation...

Frankly SavageEu I'm very disappointed over your blurting about my... I mean her financial distress, shit happens!
You assured me... I mean her that this was private, strictly between you and me... I mean her...
Dammit just send the fucking $500 so I.... I mean her can come to you... what's the problem???

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 11:55:44 AM

SavageEu

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NastyDaddy for the win! Ah you have caught me with my posts down around my ankles and my penis leading they way. Ok I will send the $500 but you still have to wear that dress.

I LOL'd and its one of the few times I have used that term, and this time it was literal.

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 12:15:06 PM

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I'd want to know someone in here for a few months then move on to online chatting, telephone calls and then finally meeting in person.
This all takes TIME!
No way would I just jump at an ad without knowing the person.
And she's talking about "moving" in a week?
Too many Red Flags!
Oh, if you do meet someone and decide that you enjoy each other's company and would want a relationship with that person you could visit each other for a bit to get to know each other better. There's no sense rushing into things.
You may even consider a "commuter" relationship for a while in the early stages of a relationship where you spend say half a month at their place then they spend half a month at your place etc and you get to know them and their area better.
Moving is a major undertaking and one of the major stresses in life and not to be taken lightly. There are many things to be taken into consideration; should I sell my house or rent it out, (you may be better off renting it out for a while if it's paid for or has a small mortgage on it to get income) what is the real estate market like in my area i.e. can I get a quick sale if I do decide to sell, should I put stuff in storage or sell it, what about my pets, will my stuff fit into the other's house or need to be stored, will I like living in the new area, what about mail, all kinds of considerations.
Moving in itself isn't that bad. You rent a truck and hire some guys to lump the heavy stuff into the truck then drive to your destination and hire other guys to lump it off the truck.
That saves a TON of money over hiring a moving company!
That way you might have to spend $2,000 to do it yourself as opposed to paying a moving company $5-$8,000.
Still interested in having this woman move in with you?

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RE: Suspicious Profile - 7/23/2006 12:17:06 PM

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I dont read profiles or posts.
When someone writes to Me I exchange mail a couple times,move to the IMmming.
I would rather learn about someone in a more personal way than just reading a profile.
A phone converastion can reveal way more.

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