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Cannon is director of health policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute
The recent exodus of insurers shows we need more reliable affordable care

They’re dropping like flies.

The health-insurance giant Aetna has announced it will exit 11 of the 15 health-insurance exchanges where it sells Obamacare plans. Aetna’s announcement comes on the heels of news that UnitedHealthcare, Humana, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Mexico, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota, and Texas’ Scott and White Health Plan, and 70% of Obamacare’s failed Co-Ops, and other insurers will exit many or all of the exchanges for which they had previously shown such enthusiasm.

The ongoing and nationwide exodus of insurers is just the latest piece of evidence that Obamacare is a failed law built on false promises.

Obamacare’s only real selling point was that it supposedly guarantees access to care for people with expensive illnesses. President Obama repeatedly boasted that under Obamacare, it will be illegal for insurance companies to deny coverage to the sick because “all discrimination against pre-existing conditions will be prohibited.”

On the contrary, Obamacare itself is denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions. Just ask the residents of Pinal County, Arizona, where Obamacare has driven every carrier out of the exchange, and may yet destroy the individual market outside the exchange.

As it turns out, Obamacare does not prevent insurance companies from denying you coverage, dropping your coverage, or watering down your coverage. It does not prevent insurers from limiting your coverage. It does not prevent discrimination against the sick. All of these things happened in Pinal County—and not in spite of Obamacare, but because of it. Obamacare made covering everybody in the exchange prohibitively expensive, so insurers stopped covering anybody.

If you’re a Pinal County resident who had a pre-Obamacare plan that covered your (now-preexisting) medical condition, Obamacare took away your coverage and the long-term protection it provided. It has left you either with far more expensive coverage, or no coverage at all.

President Obama also promised Obamacare would give everyone “the same kind of choice of private health insurance that members of Congress get for themselves.” Members of Congress can choose from four carriers in D.C.’s small business Exchange. (Who knew Congress is a small business?)

What about us little people? In 2017, one third of counties and one in six enrollees will have only one carrier in their Exchange. As it was before Obamacare, few Americans will have as many health-insurance choices as Congress.

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans: “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.” This year’s ongoing insurer exodus has so far added another 2 million Americans to the number that Obamacare has thrown out of their health plans.

In the same breath, Obama promised: “We will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period.” Can you guess what one of the worst parts of all those plan cancellations is? They often force patients to switch doctors and hospitals mid-treatment.

In 2010, Obama found one insurer who raised premiums by an “unacceptable” 39%. Obamacare would make such increases a thing of the past, he promised.

Are you sitting down? He hasn’t kept that promise, either.

In 2016, eight states had Obamacare plans whose premiums increased by 39% or more. Half the states saw increases of 30% or more.

Premiums appear to be rising even faster in 2017. Across Tennessee’s three exchange-participating insurers, the lowest average increase will be 44%. The highest will be 62%.

Obamacare’s defenders respond that subsidies defray the cost of Obamacare plans. Except they don’t. Subsidies don’t reduce the amount of the premium. They just shift the cost of Obamacare coverage to taxpayers. Either way, fewer than half of consumers facing these premium hikes are getting subsidies.

For a great many people, including many with preexisting conditions, Obamacare has made matters worse. No one wants the system we had before Obamacare. But repealing Obamacare would create space for a sounder and more sustainable health reform than this ongoing failure.
http://time.com/4466081/broken-obamacare-promises/

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It was right at first blush when Hillary tried it the first time. National Single Payer Universal.


seize and sell out the insurance companies.


All those nots are insurance companies, not the law.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

so then you agree that a vote for hillary is a vote for the titanic, interesting.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

but snotty you just admitted that the gubblemint should repeal and go to single payer, so we agree on repeal and you agree with trump that the catastophe should be repealed

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

but snotty you just admitted that the gubblemint should repeal and go to single payer, so we agree on repeal and you agree with trump that the catastophe should be repealed

I did not.

I said that we should replace with national single payer, peddle the insurance companies and replace some laws.

We do not agree on repeal. I dont agree with your horseshit, and I dont agree with trumps horseshit. Never repeal the law. Replace it. You dont hispeekie engliche, dumbass.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Yep hillary supports obamacare, a system that cannot work in America.


Average Obamacare premiums are spiking 25%, and 115% spike in Arizona.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/10/obamacare-premiums-will-increase-about-25-year



yep all those promises, 'affordable' (NOT), keep your own doc (NOT), several insurers (NOT), and on and on another huge pack of lies and hillarys plan is to ride that titanic all the way to the bottom!

Trump has it right, repeal this shit deal and start over.

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Cannon is director of health policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute
The recent exodus of insurers shows we need more reliable affordable care

They’re dropping like flies.

The health-insurance giant Aetna has announced it will exit 11 of the 15 health-insurance exchanges where it sells Obamacare plans. Aetna’s announcement comes on the heels of news that UnitedHealthcare, Humana, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Mexico, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota, and Texas’ Scott and White Health Plan, and 70% of Obamacare’s failed Co-Ops, and other insurers will exit many or all of the exchanges for which they had previously shown such enthusiasm.

The ongoing and nationwide exodus of insurers is just the latest piece of evidence that Obamacare is a failed law built on false promises.

And Hillary wants to ,....."re-visit" "NAFTA" too! Now what do you think she *really* means by that?
If something is that bad or doesn't work you shit-can it not make more of it!
I would guess that "revisit" Nafta would mean that she would try to tweak it or some such thing. She never was that bright."Tweaking" is; "O.K. I'm going to shovel 1/3 of that pile of horse shitover here, see, TWEAKED!"


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"But Your Honor, this is not a Jury of my Peers, these people are all decent, honest, law-abiding citizens!"

(in reply to Real0ne)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Yep hillary supports obamacare, a system that cannot work in America.


Average Obamacare premiums are spiking 25%, and 115% spike in Arizona.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/10/obamacare-premiums-will-increase-about-25-year



yep all those promises, 'affordable' (NOT), keep your own doc (NOT), several insurers (NOT), and on and on another huge pack of lies and hillarys plan is to ride that titanic all the way to the bottom!

Trump has it right, repeal this shit deal and start over.

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Cannon is director of health policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute
The recent exodus of insurers shows we need more reliable affordable care

They’re dropping like flies.

The health-insurance giant Aetna has announced it will exit 11 of the 15 health-insurance exchanges where it sells Obamacare plans. Aetna’s announcement comes on the heels of news that UnitedHealthcare, Humana, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of New Mexico, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota, and Texas’ Scott and White Health Plan, and 70% of Obamacare’s failed Co-Ops, and other insurers will exit many or all of the exchanges for which they had previously shown such enthusiasm.

The ongoing and nationwide exodus of insurers is just the latest piece of evidence that Obamacare is a failed law built on false promises.

And Hillary wants to ,....."re-visit" "NAFTA" too! Now what do you think she *really* means by that?
If something is that bad or doesn't work you shit-can it not make more of it!
I would guess that "revisit" Nafta would mean that she would try to tweak it or some such thing. She never was that bright."Tweaking" is; "O.K. I'm going to shovel 1/3 of that pile of horse shitover here, see, TWEAKED!"

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

hillary first introduced it and was shot down in flames, what we have today is the same shit with a different nameplate. Ohaha will take the fall and hillary would only put a couple of bandaids on it to take it off the table for another year or two till the next group of problems come up, meantime you are being wallet raped and cant do shit about it.