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Awareness -> RE: Don't Women Want The Same Things As Men? (11/6/2016 8:19:36 AM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Show me the decent conversation which was already underway, because it sure as shit looked like a fucking lynch mob to me.
I don't think it started as a bad thread. Granted, I'm not particularly a fan of the original poster because, at this point, I would have thought he'd gotten some things through his head. That's even with me conceding the point that LA is one of the biggest money-driven related places about kink in the continental United States. (I'm not talking about the crap that you see on the net, either.)
Personally, I felt the original was another 'why do women want to be paid for X if we really want the same things' type of deal, without the grasp of understanding that, just because certain people enjoy activity X, doesn't mean they want to engage in it with whomever. Due to the fact that it's basically the same kind of broken record thread from this particular OP, thread drift was damn near a guarantee. I'm not talking about the original thread, I'm talking about the pile-on which began on page 6 because someone dared to defy the group-think which characterises this particular clique of uninformed fucking idiots.
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Fucking horseshit. Someone expressing an opinion of their own is not telling other people how to live. You need to learn the difference between oppression and fucking censorship. You've got mutually opposing viewpoints, but only ONE side is allowed to express their views? The side which dominates the entire conversation in this place?
Yeah. Believe it or not, I actually LIKE that stuff that's in the guidelines about attempting to not insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc of others. Same sh^t was happening around here when a certain poster was attacking people for their sexual orientation. LP, that is self-righteous fucking horseshit. The idea that kink or sexuality is a sacred cow is an explanation of convenience. People insult each other here all fucking day over all fucking things including beliefs, appearance, height, weight, choices and opinions. In contrast someone expressed an opinion, shared an aspect of their belief and got dog-piled on by a bunch of hypocrites - including yourself.
There is no rational justification for the constant stream of personal insults which characterises most of the pseudo-dialogue in this place. I tend to confine my own invective to insults about people's behaviour - mainly because a lot of the self-delusion in here is truly egregious. As I pointed out earlier - and which was missed by the crowd of sub-100 IQ idiots in this place - belief about male subs is a consequence of someone's personal philosophy around men, women and gender.
Explain to me why every other insult in this place is fair game, but once you insult the rationale of the Holy Male Sub, all of a sudden you feel entitled to be self-righteous?
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Oh, I see, so despising - for example - padeophiles makes me a bigot, does it?
No, that's just you attempting to twist words and be a dick. If you really think that kiddie diddlers are in the same category as grown people making their own conscious decisions about their life choices, (i.e., actual consent) might I suggest to you some inner reflection. You made a blanket statement, and I gave an example of how it's not true. I didn't equate the two and you should be smarter than this.
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There are valid reasons, it's just that you don't think they're valid. And you're not a man, so you can't understand our instinctive response to men who emasculate themselves or let others do it for them. You'd probably just attribute it to "toxic masculinity" the way Uggo does. Mind you, she attributes every perceived negative outcome for women as "toxic masculinity", so this is not exactly a unique case.
You'll have to forgive me. I seem to be a little behind the times about what's happened regarding nicknames. If you'd like to clue me in on exactly who Uggo is, it would be appreciated. Personally, I can't say I recall having ever used the term "toxic masculinity," so you can go pick that fight with the person who did. Uggo, the (allegedly) Australian pseudo-scientist who claims to have a PHD in "Gender studies".
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We've been here before. I don't really think you have a good grasp on what is out there in the "real world" in regard to the kink community. The fact is, yes, this is the internet and it gives some people false courage. Most people don't really have the balls to say what they do on the net in front of people in real life. That's an irrelevance. The kink community is a minority and there are plenty of people who don't align with the progressive politics which infests the community like a weed. I assure you that mingling with the kink community in person would make me more judgemental, not less.
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That goes both ways. Ye Gods, have you ever noticed the masculine Dom mockery which is a constant fixture in this place? Do you seriously think the meth-heads spouting it would do so in person?
I have to wonder about this. Are you intentionally trying to get your post pulled? You've tried children and illegal drugs. What's next? That's disingenuous bullshit. C'mon, you can do better than that. Especially when this is YOUR fucking tangent which is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion.
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One of these days, you're going to seriously get it out of your head that I base what I say on the forums due to gender. You obviously have beliefs around gender which conflict with mine and tamaka's. The problem here is not that contrary beliefs exist, it's just that you think you're the only one entitled to express yours.
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Oh please. People feel free to mine my profile for what they think is ammunition. It's a waste of time, of course, because I don't give a shit, but Wayward5oul's disingenuous claims are pathetic. And please try and tell me you're suddenly deciding past posts aren't relevant in a discussion, because that shit is constantly trotted out by the progessinazi's in this place.
I'll own what I said. Regarding the OP, I taking posting history into consideration because he's still currently doing it. There's been no moving on here?
I happen to think I'm pretty good about the search feature here about 90% of the time. (Probably because it's antiquated.) The fact that somebody had to try to use a random post from 2006? Before you or I ever showed up here. AND the fact that it was from a screen name Wayward5oul, rather than Waywardsoul? That's some damn luck, right there. Okay and here's where I point out that you've just neatly demonstrated why tamaka's was an honest mistake.
The CURRENT poster is Wayward5oul. Tamaka clearly searched for "waywardsoul" because she didn't realise she was dealing with one of those "Numbers are part of the alphabet" script kiddies who thinks they're cool. The fact that YOU can't even see that the CURRENT poster is the one with the "5" in her screen-name, pretty much demonstrates why she didn't.
See how that works? You made the same mistake she did. The least you can do is apologise.
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*drily* Yes, I am somewhat familiar with people who try and use that technique.
Then why do you support it?
Find me someone in here who doesn't. Do you have any idea how often people hit my profile - hoping for dirt - after a disagreement in here with me?
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