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But, whatever, the language he uses - his repeated use of fuckings, etc, etc ... plus words like 'cunt',

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and various ways of putting people down (that he must know are socially unacceptable)- are either signs of anger - or signs of something actually more unpleasant. I think for his sake we'd better stick with 'anger'.

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But, whatever, the language he uses - his repeated use of fuckings, etc, etc ... plus words like 'cunt',

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That's probably where the difference in us reading him lays. I cuss like a sailor myself... all the time. Not out of anger, it's just a normal part of my vocabulary stemming from the social circles I grew up in. So I don't even really notice him saying 'fucking' all the time, because I do that habitually myself.

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I don't read it as anger, I read it as condescension for those he considers inferior. And condescension is usually an emotion doesn't blend very well with anger. Condescension is 'cold' and detached while anger is 'hot' and drawn-in.

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But, whatever, the language he uses - his repeated use of fuckings, etc, etc ... plus words like 'cunt',

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That's probably where the difference in us reading him lays. I cuss like a sailor myself... all the time. Not out of anger, it's just a normal part of my vocabulary stemming from the social circles I grew up in. So I don't even really notice him saying 'fucking' all the time, because I do that habitually myself.

That, combined with the attempt to belittle? No, I don't see that. You don't use the same strategy and I've never seen you adopt anything like the same tone.

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I don't read it as anger, I read it as condescension for those he considers inferior. And condescension is usually an emotion doesn't blend very well with anger. Condescension is 'cold' and detached while anger is 'hot' and drawn-in.

Yep. But, to me ... unless there's something a little wrong with him, it's a put-on thing. He doesn't actually think his opponent is inferior, he just wants to give his opponent that impression. It's the pretence of anger, mixed with condescension - but behind that *real* anger, because the put-on thing isn't working. The more it feels like it's cracking him, the more he lays it on. The reason I see this is because, usually, people know when they're arguing with others who know far more than they do on a given subject. I've seen our Awareness do this too many times here.

As we've both said, YMMV.

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I don't notice him using the word fucking either. I use it myself sometimes as a point of emphasis. I read Awareness the same way Ishtar does.

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I think it's strange how the open- minded crowd seems to have a rather hostile reaction and outright disdain to people who have open their minds to consider their ideas but ultimately determined to disagree with them. It's really the strangest thing.
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There's knowledge which is good... and then there's wisdom... which is bettter.

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But, whatever, the language he uses - his repeated use of fuckings, etc, etc ... plus words like 'cunt',

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That's probably where the difference in us reading him lays. I cuss like a sailor myself... all the time. Not out of anger, it's just a normal part of my vocabulary stemming from the social circles I grew up in. So I don't even really notice him saying 'fucking' all the time, because I do that habitually myself.

That, combined with the attempt to belittle? No, I don't see that. You don't use the same strategy and I've never seen you adopt anything like the same tone.

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I don't read it as anger, I read it as condescension for those he considers inferior. And condescension is usually an emotion doesn't blend very well with anger. Condescension is 'cold' and detached while anger is 'hot' and drawn-in.

Yep. But, to me ... unless there's something a little wrong with him, it's a put-on thing. He doesn't actually think his opponent is inferior, he just wants to give his opponent that impression. It's the pretence of anger, mixed with condescension - but behind that *real* anger, because the put-on thing isn't working. The more it feels like it's cracking him, the more he lays it on. The reason I see this is because, usually, people know when they're arguing with others who know far more than they do on a given subject. I've seen our Awareness do this too many times here.

As we've both said, YMMV.

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I don't notice him using the word fucking either. I use it myself sometimes as a point of emphasis. I read Awareness the same way Ishtar does. I think it's strange how the open- minded crowd seems to have a rather hostile reaction and outright disdain to people who have open their minds to consider their ideas but ultimately determined to disagree with them. It's really the strangest thing.

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I haven't seen you use it as a point of emphasis so far here, tamaka. In general, as with Ishtar - to me, you two together don't adopt anything like Awareness's tone. I'd be frankly astonished if most people didn't agree with me on this.

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I don't type that way. But I speak that way.

For example his "Christ, what fucking universe do you live in?" from post 358 on this thread is something that I'm pretty sure I verbatim said to my slave just yesterday. If it wasn't exactly that, it was at least very very close.

As such, I don't really register it as him sounding angry, or him cussing when he does that, because I hardly notice it at all.

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On a side note, I do find it hilarious that whenever somebody gets to the point where they don't want to argue with him any further (because they lost, or they consider it pointless, or because they're too disgusted by his views to even try anymore) that they invariably attack his choice of username. Especially seeing that I'm pretty sure that Awareness takes it as a clear sign that he's won whenever they do that (regardless of whether his opponent would agree with that view or not) and so it's incredibly entertaining how often those arguments seem to end with the opponent basically saying "Yeah you've won." while walking away convinced they just won.

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I don't notice him using the word fucking either. I use it myself sometimes as a point of emphasis. I read Awareness the same way Ishtar does.

I haven't seen you use it as a point of emphasis so far here, tamaka. In general, as with Ishtar - to me, you two together don't adopt anything like Awareness's tone. I'd be frankly astonished if most people didn't agree with me on this.

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I think it's strange how the open- minded crowd seems to have a rather hostile reaction and outright disdain to people who have open their minds to consider their ideas but ultimately determined to disagree with them. It's really the strangest thing.
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That wouldn't apply if people are seeing what they take to be prejudice on your part - which they clearly have here. People's minds, no matter how 'open' they like to think they are, can be closed to prejudice.

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So he's 'faking' being angry because secretly he's really really angry?
Fair enough. It's funny how the same text can read so different to different people.

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On a side note, I do find it hilarious that whenever somebody gets to the point where they don't want to argue with him any further (because they lost, or they consider it pointless, or because they're too disgusted by his views to even try anymore) that they invariably attack his choice of username. Especially seeing that I'm pretty sure that Awareness takes it as a clear sign that he's won whenever they do that (regardless of whether his opponent would agree with that view or not) and so it's incredibly entertaining how often those arguments seem to end with the opponent basically saying "Yeah you've won." while walking away convinced they just won.

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Funny - why would you think that? After all, he presumably doesn't think he's losing an argument every time he gets insulting - so why should people who are insulting him feel any different? I think we're in Occam's razor territory here, Ishtar. People insult Awareness for the much more simple reason that he's already insulted them- and that, repeatedly.

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Funny - why would you think that? After all, he presumably doesn't think he's losing an argument every time he gets insulting - so why should people who are insulting him feel any different? I think we're in Occam's razor territory here, Ishtar. People insult Awareness for the much more simple reason that he's already insulted them- and that, repeatedly.

I'm not talking about the reason it's done. I'm talking about how I ended seeing either party taking what why it's done.
Whenever it happens, they both seem to think they came out victorious.

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He used to be more interesting in his content, despite his manner of delivery, but now he invariably sounds like a broken record, except for when he actually isn't being provocative. It's almost like the point of his posts has become to provoke, and the content is secondary, while it used to be the other way around.

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Funny - why would you think that? After all, he presumably doesn't think he's losing an argument every time he gets insulting - so why should people who are insulting him feel any different? I think we're in Occam's razor territory here, Ishtar. People insult Awareness for the much more simple reason that he's already insulted them- and that, repeatedly.

I'm not talking about the reason it's done. I'm talking about how I ended seeing either party taking what why it's done.
Whenever it happens, they both seem to think they came out victorious.

Well, whatever. Fuck that for a game of soldiers. (All six words of that last carefully chosen. ) Me, I don't need to 'win' every argument and I sure as hell don't have the time and energy for it either. Awareness seems to me much more built such that he just must win - which is why he'll most likely have the last word between him and me on this thread, too.

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I agree with that. But I would argue that it's because the general quality of these boards have gone down drastically. That's mostly because it does less volume though. Considering that it would most likely follow a general bell-curve distribution, less people automatically means less decent posts with good content, and thus less possibilities to draw on what's been said to provide decent content yourself as well.

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On a side note, I do find it hilarious that whenever somebody gets to the point where they don't want to argue with him any further (because they lost, or they consider it pointless, or because they're too disgusted by his views to even try anymore) that they invariably attack his choice of username. Especially seeing that I'm pretty sure that Awareness takes it as a clear sign that he's won whenever they do that (regardless of whether his opponent would agree with that view or not) and so it's incredibly entertaining how often those arguments seem to end with the opponent basically saying "Yeah you've won." while walking away convinced they just won.

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I have the same issue myself... there's so much less decent topics to respond to that I get drawn in replying to nonsense all to often, and usually the only reply you have to nonsense is more nonsense. I really just shouldn't bother posting here as much anymore since the volume has gone down, but it's an old habit that's proving very hard to break, even though it's usually not proving to be worth my time.