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dcnovice -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 3:47:20 PM)

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Advocates of safe spaces don't distinguish between the two. It is their contention that the classroom should function as a support group so students don't have their prejudices challenged.

I can only speak for myself.


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So you think a collection of like-minded individuals who associate by choice is somehow equivalent to a howling mob demanding academic censorship of ideas that offend their delicate sensibilities? Really?

No, I think you're breaking out the seasonal decorations. Happy Halloween. [:)]

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Awareness -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 3:58:03 PM)

Ye Gods, don't you people ever stop your gender-queer shenanigans??!?! That's clearly a strawperson of indeterminate gender!



bounty44 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:04:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
While I do not shout I do use graphic profanity and vulgarisms in response to those "punkassmotherfuckers" who use assaultive language to me. If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.


to the well-informed and even the casual forum reader---this has to be one of the more laughable, and blatantly false statements to appear in quite a while.

what im not sure about though is, is it a calculated attempt at propaganda, or as a result of a narcissistic, self justifying delusion.



kiwisub22 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:05:13 PM)

LOL - that may be the funniest thing I've seen all day.......



Lucylastic -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:09:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Yes, what happens is I post as Peon, then - so that the IP addresses look right - zip from the UK across the world to Australia to post within the same hour as Tweakabelle. This is possible because, being British, I have access to a Tardis.

I have to agree with Tweakabelle, old chap. You're a fruitcake.

You're mixing up your socks. It was Peon who accused me of being a fruitcake.

This is not the first mistake you've made.


Both have called you a fruitcake
post 36
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4963429
early dementia?
you havent got a clue on socks.
idiot
Peon's been doing it for a while, now he acts like he's suddenly agreeing with Twink?

He forgot which sock was which. As I said, this is not the first time these two have fucked up.

Oh, and shut the fuck up you stupid, obsessive fucking cow.


LMAO nothing but spew, what a surprise.
You claimed
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It was Peon who accused me of being a fruitcake.


That is clearly untrue. as both of them and maybe more have said it, and worse.

He isnt a sock, that is untrue.
Neither of them have fucked up, fruitcake.

I will not shut up, I am neither a fucking cow, or obsessive.
That is simply your opinion.
Your opinions are piss poor.




Awareness -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:13:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
That is clearly untrue.
No, it's not. You're just so hateful you can't see straight.

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He isnt a sock, that is untrue.
One of them is - I don't care which.

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Neither of them have fucked up,
Yes, they have.

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fruitcake.
Actually, I prefer to think of myself as a date and nut loaf.

The Americans don't do fruitcake well. They think the entire concept is bizarre. Back in Oz, the Lions used to make fantastic fruitcake. It was best to age it for a year before opening it. Time, only made it better.

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I will not shut up, I am neither a fucking cow, or obsessive.
Sure you are. And a nasty, man-hating piece of work, to boot.
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That is simply your opinion.
Your opinions are piss poor.
Cry me a river, you man-hating fruitcake!

Thank you, come again!






Lucylastic -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:36:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
That is clearly untrue.
No, it's not. You're just so hateful you can't see straight.

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He isnt a sock, that is untrue.
One of them is - I don't care which.

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Neither of them have fucked up,
Yes, they have.

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fruitcake.
Actually, I prefer to think of myself as a date and nut loaf.

The Americans don't do fruitcake well. They think the entire concept is bizarre. Back in Oz, the Lions used to make fantastic fruitcake. It was best to age it for a year before opening it. Time, only made it better.

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I will not shut up, I am neither a fucking cow, or obsessive.
Sure you are. And a nasty, man-hating piece of work, to boot.
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That is simply your opinion.
Your opinions are piss poor.
Cry me a river, you man-hating fruitcake!

Thank you, come again!





put your proof up...or shut up, again, you have NOTHING but a fucked up opinion that really has no bearing in reality of any kind its almost pitiable.
Oh the man hating part again....you delude yourself to the point of imbecility.



RedMagic1 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:43:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice
It's great to see you posting again, RedMagic1!

I've missed your thoughtful, reasoned insights.

Thank you dcnovice! If I may...

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? This place looks like a city post neutron bomb. And the people who are still here -- well, Awareness has become a parody of his formerly intellectual self, and the "nice" posters are running down his looks. Which surprised me at first, but there is literally nothing else to do.



PeonForHer -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 4:48:59 PM)

May I take this opportunity to observe that you are a fruitcake, Awareness?

I hope that helps.



tweakabelle -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 6:51:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


On the other hand, he's always very vehement in what he says - this you can see by the way he says 'fucking' and 'shit' a lot. People who are really vehement just must be right, no?

http://www.seekfind.net/Logical_Fallacy_of_Argument_by_Vehemence.html#.WBSC3SSHMcM


Is it just me or is there something ironic about citing logical fallacies in an ad hominem attack?



To draw attention to the fact that Awareness is "always very vehement in what he says" is not an ad hominem attack. It is an observation of fact that describes Awareness' posting style, amply supported by the evidence of Awareness' own posts. It's more about Awareness' posting style than anything else. Peon's position is validated by a defence of accurate representation of fact. So there is no irony of the type you are suggesting.

Or alternatively, to answer your question directly, it might just be you. Only you really knows the answer to that.






Nu uh. Fact doesn't nullify the ad hominem.

Someone could attack me for my position on, say, current fashion trends by 'factually' stating 'Someone born as long ago as 19** just might know about modern fashion, yes?'

Any time an argument is addressed at a person it is almost certainly an ad hominem fallacy.

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Your claim that "Fact doesn't nullify the ad hominem" ignores the fact that the post in question wasn't "addressed at a person" as you claim but at a particular person's writing style, as I have already pointed out once.

Your mistaken insistence that Peon was being personal generates to a new answer to your original question : "Is it me or ......?" Yes it appears to be you.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 7:01:22 PM)

Perhaps you should ask your carer to explain it to you.

It's really quite simple.

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tweakabelle -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 7:08:15 PM)

Yes it is quite simple.

You are claiming that a description of a writing style is a personal attack. You are trying to turn something into something it is not.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 8:33:11 PM)

@tweakapeonbelleforher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

yaw welkum

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tweakabelle -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/29/2016 10:05:54 PM)

You are drawing a very long bow indeed. Attacking a person's posting style is not a personal attack on that person. It is as simple as that.




Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 1:16:36 AM)

@peontweakerforbella: Had the last sentence been omitted there might have been an argument for the statement's innocence.

But...

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PeonForHer -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 2:27:09 AM)

"CurmudgeonlyAwareness, you are a berk, therefore all your arguments are invalid"

*That* is an ad hominem. See?



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 3:39:38 AM)

@peedonbytinkerbell: I thought it might all be a bit above your pay grade.

Never mind. Thanks for playing, anyway.

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thompsonx -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 4:14:21 AM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44
ORIGINAL: thompsonx
While I do not shout I do use graphic profanity and vulgarisms in response to those "punkassmotherfuckers" who use assaultive language to me. If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.


to the well-informed and even the casual forum reader---this has to be one of the more laughable, and blatantly false statements to appear in quite a while.

If that were true comrade bounty you would be able to validate your ignorant opinions with some facts.
We await your "facts" in rapt anticipation.



thompsonx -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 4:23:36 AM)

ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

@tweakapeonbelleforher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

yaw welkum

This from your cited argument:

"This article's factual accuracy is disputed." Please help to ensure that disputed statements are reliably sourced. See the relevant discussion on the talk page. (June 2016) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)

All yall is welcome too



PeonForHer -> RE: Cultural appropriation? (10/30/2016 4:30:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Curmudgeonly1

@peedonbytinkerbell: I thought it might all be a bit above your pay grade.

Never mind. Thanks for playing, anyway.

[sm=baby_smiley39.gif]


Oh go and buy a dictionary, you silly old fart.



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