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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 12:09:57 AM   
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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 12:17:08 AM   
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A figment of your ignorance, RM. Slavery in Islamic lands was nowhere as extensive as that in the West.

Western involvement in the slave trade lasted for 3 or 4 centuries. [...]
You're full of shit.

Once again you are factually incorrect.

The slave trade in Europe and the West dates back to at least the Greek and Roman eras and probably precedes those eras too. It has a more or less continuous presence in Europe from those eras through the Dark Ages to the Middle Ages and later expanding to the American slave trade. As you seem unaware of this, you can read all about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery.

If you are insisting that others, who according to your mistaken belief get their facts wrong, are "full of shit" then by your own standard you are "full of shit". But only a fool would expect anything else from a fruitcake. So I suppose no one will be surprised by this further proof that you are a "full of shit" fruitcake.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 12:43:56 AM   
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My personal beef is, I don't really give a fuck what demographic does more than the other, gender or race, my beef is, why when particularly white males do it, it's deemed far more evil?

When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States, a bunch of neo-Marxists realized that any division in a society could be manipulated to bring it down and pave the way for their Socialist utopia. Gender, race, anything would do. But here in America, fomenting racial hatred would seem to be the most promising strategy. They've even managed to convince a cadre of useful whites to join the battle against insidious "white evil" in the name of all that is noble and good.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 3:39:46 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States, a bunch of neo-Marxists realized that any division in a society could be manipulated to bring it down and pave the way for their Socialist utopia. Gender, race, anything would do. But here in America, fomenting racial hatred would seem to be the most promising strategy. They've even managed to convince a cadre of useful whites to join the battle against insidious "white evil" in the name of all that is noble and good.


Are you asking us to believe that racism or racist discrimination against African Americans didn't exist before this sinister "neo-Marxist" plot? That there was no gender discrimination before those dastardly "neo-Marxist" agitators and intellectuals set out to destroy the USA? That all the problems of racial and gender equality in the US have been invented by neo-Marxist intellectuals and don't have any basis in reality?

Precisely when did these subversives hit upon this nefarious strategy? Was it before or after the civil rights movement of the 60s and 70s? Was it before or after Jim Crow? Was it before or after women got the vote? Was it before or after the Civil War which was fought (among other reasons) to end slavery?

How come we haven't heard of this conspiracy theory until now? We need to know the details of this shocking conspiracy against everything Americans hold dear, Mum and apple pie. Like names and dates ... and really important stuff like did the conspirators squeeze the toothpaste tube in the middle or at the end? Did they tie their shoelaces or wear slip-ons? And why didn't Ronnie Reagan star in the movie?

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:01:53 AM   
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My personal beef is, I don't really give a fuck what demographic does more than the other, gender or race, my beef is, why when particularly white males do it, it's deemed far more evil?

When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States, a bunch of neo-Marxists realized that any division in a society could be manipulated to bring it down and pave the way for their Socialist utopia. Gender, race, anything would do. But here in America, fomenting racial hatred would seem to be the most promising strategy. They've even managed to convince a cadre of useful whites to join the battle against insidious "white evil" in the name of all that is noble and good.

K.






sweet jeebus K, you're bonkers.
LMFAO you finally went over the edge.



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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:22:33 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States,

Nonsensical ignorance of history. Class warfare was rampant in this country beginning with the railroad and factory strikes of the 1870s when the Elites hired armed strikebreakers and employed military troops in Pennsylvania. It has continued to the present day with the growing wealth gap. WTF do you think the Trump followers are all about if not the disaffected middle class? Dumbest thing I have ever seen you write. Read a book.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:23:51 AM   
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My personal beef is, I don't really give a fuck what demographic does more than the other, gender or race, my beef is, why when particularly white males do it, it's deemed far more evil?

Bwaaaaaa waaaaaa . . . . history tells the tale.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:31:06 AM   
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He didnt know about couverture. He knows nothing of suffrage, he ignores it all
He knows little apart from what he picks up at his MRA friends sites.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:44:59 AM   
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Approximately 11,863,000 Africans were shipped across the Atlantic, with a death rate during the Middle Passage reducing this number by 10-20 percent. As a result between 9.6 and 10.8 million Africans arrived in the Americas . . . Only about 6 percent of imports went directly to British North America. ~The Gillder Lehrman Institute of American History

So, 6% to North America is greater than the three million I cited.

Black and Muslim slavers in Africa were not responsible for the appalling conditions of American Blacks after the Civil War and they are not responsible for the inequity that continues to this day.

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Slavery in Africa has existed throughout the continent for many centuries, and still continues in the current day in some countries. ~Source

Well, that's no excuse for what continues to be our racial problems today. You always seem to be looking to blame someone else, even the victims of that sordid institution of "slavery" aka "mass incarceration for petty marijuana possession that feeds a fascist conglomerate of private prisons in the US.

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Yeah, white people are devils.

Evil is as evil does and as it is supported by lackeys like you and your partners.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:50:28 AM   
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Wrong. The Arab slave trade is known to have peaked around 7th century BC which predates the Atlantic slave trade by 700 years.

Idiot, if there were any slave trade in 7thCentury BC it would have been in the Fertile Crescent before Nebuchadnezzar.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:51:31 AM   
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My personal beef is, I don't really give a fuck what demographic does more than the other, gender or race, my beef is, why when particularly white males do it, it's deemed far more evil?


I'm sure nobody here had any idea that this was your view, RM. Perhaps you should start a thread on it?

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 6:55:36 AM   
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Wanna talk about the slave trade that happened in the arab world? Which is far fucking worse than what whites ever done?

No, that's right. It's only noteworthy when white males do it.

Rolls eyes

Shit, the Greeks and Romans had slaves earlier than the Muslims. How far back do you wish to go in your pathetic attempt to brush aside the Mid-Atlantic Passage Holocaust financed by New England bankers so the fabric mills could buy cheap cotton from the South.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 7:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just one point that jumped out at me. The slave trade was and still is in existence in the middle east.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/SaudiArabia.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Middle_East
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery

Historically, there was one significant difference in slaves who ended up in the Americas and those that ended up in Mediterranean lands. In the Americas the slaves had a family life and children. In the Middle East; male slaves were castrated and children of the women were killed at birth. There just aren't any communities of slave descendants in the Arabian Peninsula.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 7:21:46 AM   
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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 7:50:11 AM   
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Slavery in Africa has existed throughout the continent for many centuries, and still continues in the current day in some countries. ~Source

Well, that's no excuse for what continues to be our racial problems today. You always seem to be looking to blame someone else...

You're making shit up again. I never said it was any kind of "excuse," nor did I imply any such thing. I just think that people who play the blame-game should include all the guilty parties, which is probably why you trimmed this part of my post:

while two wrongs don't make a right, they do make two wrongs

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...even the victims of that sordid institution of "slavery" aka "mass incarceration for petty marijuana possession that feeds a fascist conglomerate of private prisons in the US.

Quote me making "excuses" and blaming "someone else" for the "mass incarceration for petty marijuana possession."

Take your time.

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Yeah, white people are devils.

Evil is as evil does and as it is supported by lackeys like you and your partners.

Back to the old "white evil" again, eh? Well I hate to have to break this to you, but there is nothing noble about promoting race-based hatred.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 7:55:36 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States, a bunch of neo-Marxists realized that any division in a society could be manipulated to bring it down and pave the way for their Socialist utopia. Gender, race, anything would do. But here in America, fomenting racial hatred would seem to be the most promising strategy. They've even managed to convince a cadre of useful whites to join the battle against insidious "white evil" in the name of all that is noble and good.


Are you asking us to believe that racism or racist discrimination against African Americans didn't exist before this sinister "neo-Marxist" plot?

It would be difficult to manipulate divisions in a society if they didn't first exist, don't you think?

For future reference, it's called English.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 8:08:03 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States,

Nonsensical ignorance of history. Class warfare was rampant in this country...

What's this? Another student failing his ESL course? I didn't say it never existed.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 8:26:17 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States,

Nonsensical ignorance of history. Class warfare was rampant in this country...

What's this? Another student failing his ESL course? I didn't say it never existed.

K.





You are doubly misguided if you don't recognize the Trumpeteers are about class warfare.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 8:36:21 AM   
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When class warfare never really got off the ground in a prosperous country like the United States, a bunch of neo-Marxists realized that any division in a society could be manipulated to bring it down and pave the way for their Socialist utopia. Gender, race, anything would do. But here in America, fomenting racial hatred would seem to be the most promising strategy. They've even managed to convince a cadre of useful whites to join the battle against insidious "white evil" in the name of all that is noble and good.


Are you asking us to believe that racism or racist discrimination against African Americans didn't exist before this sinister "neo-Marxist" plot?

It would be difficult to manipulate divisions in a society if they didn't first exist, don't you think?

For future reference, it's called English.

K.


Methinks you are suffering a severe case of white-out if you believe we are a society without classes: Old money, entrepreneurial, speculators, small business, corporate management, entertainment royalty, blue collar, working poor, dirt poor, incarcerated. However, you slice and dice it, we have a class-demarked society. The best you can say is we have excellent upward mobility. Would you not agree to that? You cannot crow about upward mobility if you do not have a class structure in place. However, try as they might, the Kirata grandchildren will likely not be admitted to Groton.

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RE: White male privilege theory is a sham - 11/1/2016 8:40:11 AM   
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Methinks you are suffering a severe case of white-out if you believe we are a society without classes

And you'll be right back to quote me saying that I think we're a society without classes?

Give up the tricks. We can all see the rabbit.

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