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Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 6:57:17 PM   
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Refugees who make the harrowing journey by sea to Australia might want to think twice about that perilous voyage.
They won't be allowed to settle if a new law gets passed. Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has introduced a new piece of legislation that would prevent refugees and asylum-seekers from ever settling in the country if they came by boat.

The announcement, which has come three years after the prime minister vowed to close the door to refugees who were smuggled by boat, has been blasted as a "severe and entirely unnecessary step" by one humanitarian group.

I think Australia is doing the right thing. Any country who is serious about border control should be doing this.

End of the day, it forces everyone to go by legal channels and discourage illegals.
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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 8:24:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm buggered if I know why they're being called 'refugees'.

Refugees flee for their lives to the NEAREST SAFE HAVEN.

Refugees don't pay many thousands of dollars to be transported half way round the planet.

That's economic migrants trying to cheat the system.



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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 8:30:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Technically they are fleeing for their lives, I assume they are desperate to illegally trespass another country because they were desperate for a better life than where they are from.

But end of the day!

There needs to be established proper channels for people who seek refuge. Just law and order. And controlling who comes in and out, knowing who they are.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 9:11:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, the moment they pass the nearest safe haven they cease to be refugees and become greedy migrants trying to jump the queue ahead of those who meet the legitimately determined criteria set by the gummint.

They should be very loudly and publicly sent straight back to where they came from.



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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 9:39:05 PM   
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I'm buggered if I know why they're being called 'refugees'.

No argument there.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 9:42:21 PM   
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I'm buggered if I know why they're being called 'refugees'.

Refugees flee for their lives to the NEAREST SAFE HAVEN.

Refugees don't pay many thousands of dollars to be transported half way round the planet.

That's economic migrants trying to cheat the system.


They're not. They're fucking queue-jumpers. They should fire on the boats if they enter territorial waters. That would stop them coming.




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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		After seeing what Australians post on Usenet and other discussion boards I think they need all the "refugees" they can get. Ultrasickening liberals, except RM I guess but he is also nuts.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:12:58 PM   
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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:26:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, you mean they are not technicians, engineers and doctors ? They are not builders and scholars ? They don't believe Women are people too ?

I thought they were equals, and all the same under the skin.

What a letdown. Here I thought they would come up with new inventions and bring in more industry and positive trade. I thought they were going to cure cancer and maybe even the common cold. I thought they were going to invent clean, pollution free power and open up car factories selling electric cars for ten grand and put in the infrastructure to charge them.

Are you telling me the ultrasickening liberals are wrong ? I bet we'll never get that rose garden either.

/SARCASM

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:29:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		RM may be Australian but thank the million gods he is not a typical Australian. He is twisted enough to be thought to come from some rat-hole in the States, (Cleveland comes to mind)

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:36:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to second that, that RM is not a good representative of Australian men. Generally, they are fun loving and positive men, who don't spend all day whining about their lack of rights as a male.
I am surprise RM is Australian!
And Australia of all countries, where women are so amazing there! I mean, I feel like Australian women are very strong independent women who can do anything and everything. What i mean is, they don't feel entitled to anything and really believe they are equal. Compared to us Asian women. We play women card alot still, and that's not gonna change any time soon. But we aren't obsess with the whole equality that kind of extent here. As long as we can own property, have rights to vote, have access to education, basic necessities, that's the equality we want. But we still like being treated as women.

A simple thing I am impressed is, like being able to drive a whole tour coach while also being the speaking tour guide while driving.

No woman in Asia can do that! No men in Asia can do that! I used to work for an Aussie female who always scolds me for playing damsel in distress, like why can't I fix everything myself! How will I survive on my own lol! It's just that at work when something needs fixing, I will find a man to do it. And just play the woman card that I am useless at these stuffs. I mean like assembling an audio system for example or handling a map for directions, I still get lost with google maps anyway.

But I grew up with brothers, they fix everything for me, so I am used to men fixing things for me. If I got an Ikea Furniture, my brother would assemble it for me. They take care of me like that.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:45:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		You want to see Australian men in action Greta, tomorrow is the main day of the year. Only one state has it as a declared public holiday but I will give you odds of 50 to 1 that not much work gets done ANYwhere after about noon tomorrow and by about 18.00 most of those big, bronzed anzacs will be gibbering wrecks in the local pubs, either celebrating their wins or drowning their sorrows that their horses are still running.

As to the so-called refugees; I am a labour-man/socialist and have been for most of my life.................what the americans would call a liberal, and I agree that those queue jumpers should be stopped and much as it breaks my heart to say it, it seems that Turnbull ( a right liberal here; a republican there), may have hit on a formula to do it. I LOVE the sight of refuges putting on riots and the like because they want to chose which country they go to. As far as I'm concerned, if their not being shot at, bombed or napalmed, ANY country is an improvement. Be grateful they let you remain there and make the best of it.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:48:02 PM   
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You want to see Australian men in action Greta, tomorrow is the main day of the year. Only one state has it as a declared public holiday but I will give you odds of 50 to 1 that not much work gets done ANYwhere after about noon tomorrow and by about 18.00 most of those big, bronzed anzacs will be gibbering wrecks in the local pubs, either celebrating their wins or drowning their sorrows that their horses are still running.

And none of them would be whining in the pubs about being ill treated as a male in Australia and having lesser rights than Australian women, that's for sure.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:48:05 PM   
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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:50:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think I have ever seen or heard any men here whining about that greta.....................I honestly wonder where RM gets it all from. I keep thinking there must either be another Australia that I don't know about or there is an alternate world ( a la Terry Pratchett). I checked on my globe and there is NOT another Australia, so he must live on Disc World

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:54:15 PM   
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Pull that ' weak woman' stunt in this house and you would be locked in a room with nothing else but a whole bunch of ' assemble it yourself' stuff and told to get on with it. you can eat, shower and go to the toilet when it's all been assembled properly

Lol, probably!! :)
I used to drive my Aussie Boss crazy! But over here, when a man sees a woman doing a "man's man's job", they will all usually come and help anyway. When I used to work in banquet, things like assembling a stage, a dance floor, rolling tables, if any males sees me attempting to do it, they will all come and tell to go fold napkins and don't do it, as they don't want me to hurt myself.

But in Australia, ALL these things are done by an ALL female team. Huge difference.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:56:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		And as a matter of Interest, Australia is NOT banning refugees. It IS banning ILLEGAL immigrants. Those who come in by boat as a method of circumventing the legal means of coming here. They have been told that once they have been turned away, because they are illegals, they will NEVER be allowed in the country. EVER. There is a slight but very noticeable difference I think.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:58:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's precisely what I got from the article. They want to discourage anybody entering by illegal means.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/30/2016 10:58:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		greta, if I see you attempting to put some 'build it yourself' stuff together, I promise I will help. I will recommend which screwdriver you should be using if you are having problems. I won't be able to help you though, because the ice in my drink might be melting.

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RE: Australia Banning Refugees - 10/31/2016 3:20:09 AM   
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I'm buggered if I know why they're being called 'refugees'.

No argument there.


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