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RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... - 11/19/2016 6:06:13 PM   
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RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... - 11/19/2016 6:43:47 PM   
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"Foucault argued that 'the real political task in a society such as ours is to criticize the workings of institutions which appear to be neutral and independent; to criticize them in such a manner that the political violence which has always exercised itself obscurely through them will be unmasked, so that one can fight against them'...yet Foucault did not recommend that power be reconstructed on the basis of justice. he considered justice itself to be an illusory idea. for Foucault, it was all about power..."

And Foucault would be wrong in your estimation, how? In what way? Why?

Well, take university admissions as a case in point. Universities allocated their limited openings to those among their applicants who were best qualified to excel. There was no "racism" afoot in this. The only goal was excellence. But the policy was criticized as a form of so-called "structural racism" (on the basis of "disparate impact") and the solution demanded was explicitly racial admissions policies. If that isn't madness, I don't know what is.

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The history of race relations in America clearly justifies Foucault's analysis that Power trumps Justice, so what is your complaint?


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RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... - 11/19/2016 7:34:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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"Foucault argued that 'the real political task in a society such as ours is to criticize the workings of institutions which appear to be neutral and independent; to criticize them in such a manner that the political violence which has always exercised itself obscurely through them will be unmasked, so that one can fight against them'...yet Foucault did not recommend that power be reconstructed on the basis of justice. he considered justice itself to be an illusory idea. for Foucault, it was all about power..."

And Foucault would be wrong in your estimation, how? In what way? Why?

Well, take university admissions as a case in point. Universities allocated their limited openings to those among their applicants who were best qualified to excel. There was no "racism" afoot in this. The only goal was excellence. But the policy was criticized as a form of so-called "structural racism" (on the basis of "disparate impact") and the solution demanded was explicitly racial admissions policies. If that isn't madness, I don't know what is.

The history of race relations in America clearly justifies Foucault's analysis that Power trumps Justice, so what is your complaint?

You can't figure that out? Not even using both brain cells?

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RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... - 11/19/2016 8:18:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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"Foucault argued that 'the real political task in a society such as ours is to criticize the workings of institutions which appear to be neutral and independent; to criticize them in such a manner that the political violence which has always exercised itself obscurely through them will be unmasked, so that one can fight against them'...yet Foucault did not recommend that power be reconstructed on the basis of justice. he considered justice itself to be an illusory idea. for Foucault, it was all about power..."

And Foucault would be wrong in your estimation, how? In what way? Why?

Well, take university admissions as a case in point. Universities allocated their limited openings to those among their applicants who were best qualified to excel. There was no "racism" afoot in this. The only goal was excellence. But the policy was criticized as a form of so-called "structural racism" (on the basis of "disparate impact") and the solution demanded was explicitly racial admissions policies. If that isn't madness, I don't know what is.

The history of race relations in America clearly justifies Foucault's analysis that Power trumps Justice, so what is your complaint?

You can't figure that out? Not even using both brain cells?

K.


If you knew how to communicate with clarity there would be nothing to figure out.

Do you deny that racial discrimination, slavery, lynching, sharecropping, and ghetto housing wer imposed by Power?

The topic is Foucault's analysis of institutional power. Your response was simply stupid and a non sequitur. Unplug your light socket and try to use your brain.



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