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Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 5:34:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Yeah, I made a mistake. But it was a mistake without distinction. Racists use either education status or criminality to slander people of color. My point remains the same. Fuck off. No, you decided he was a racist, No, actually Termy has described himself as a racist on a semi-regular basis, and makes no bones about it, uses the n word just often enough to make the point, etc. Anybody here paying attention is aware of it, he doesn't hide it, lots of people (including myself, occasionally) still converse with him, but, like or dislike, everybody's used to it. Again, for those paying attention. I don't. Termy tends to write walls of text and I skip over them. They generally don't inspire me to respond, so there's little return on the investment. I applaud you on your obsessive compilation of a dossier on everyone in the forums, it clearly adds value to your life, but it's just not for me. You're welcome.

vincentML -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 5:36:56 PM)
quote: You can argue there are reasons for this, but trying to pretend it has absolutely nothing to do with the culture of black communities is irresponsible. This is what you said earlier in this thread: As I've said before, crime is committed by an underclass. Therefore your demographics tend to be tainted by social reality. I think it's exceptionally unwise to infer from American statistics that people of African descent are more predisposed to crime. What that tells me is that you are intellectually inconsistent, confused, or simply a dishonest troll. You cannot have both sides of the issue in an honest discussion. quote: It does nothing to change the fact that you decided he was a racist and then made up your own rationalisation for why that assessment was justified. Well, you are just fucking wrong. I call your attention to Edwird's comments about Termys racism in #72.

Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 5:45:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: You can argue there are reasons for this, but trying to pretend it has absolutely nothing to do with the culture of black communities is irresponsible. This is what you said earlier in this thread: As I've said before, crime is committed by an underclass. Therefore your demographics tend to be tainted by social reality. I think it's exceptionally unwise to infer from American statistics that people of African descent are more predisposed to crime. What that tells me is that you are intellectually inconsistent, confused, or simply a dishonest troll. You cannot have both sides of the issue in an honest discussion. No, it tells me you don't understand the difference between identifying an issue and determining the root cause. There are multiple factors in the high crime rate of African Americans, but first, you pretend that the crime rate ISN'T high, then you want to try and pretend there are no cultural issues which are contributing factors. Let me make it clear. Two-parent families statistically represent the best environment for a child to grow up in. Safe communities with role models represent the best opportunity to inculcate positive values into the young people. If you're unwilling to admit that these two issues are a problem within African American communities, then YOU my friend are part of the fucking problem. African American youth need positive role models who advocate for their future, not bitter miserable old men who blame the white man for everything and teach a victim mentality to every young man they come into contact with. quote: quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness It does nothing to change the fact that you decided he was a racist and then made up your own rationalisation for why that assessment was justified. Well, you are just fucking wrong. I call your attention to Edwird's comments about Termys racism in #72. No, Edwird's tried to give you a way out but it doesn't change the fact that you decided he was a racist first, THEN INVENTED YOUR JUSTIFICATION. You lied. Pure and simple. The problem is dude, you're a racist.

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 7:34:08 PM)
"The number of arrests reported in the FBI arrest statistics in 2014 all crimes were committed at a rate of 69.4% by whites and 27.8% by blacks. By comparison, however, the incarcerated male population in 2009 was composed of 32% whites and 37% blacks. Blacks, Puerto Rican Americans, and American Indians have the highest rates of incarceration. Additionally, until recently 24% of African Americans were still living below the poverty level while only 10.9% of whites suffered that status. " First of all you are talking ARREST stats here. And Blacks still only compromise 12 % or so of the population. So they are twice as likely to get arrested, right ? Why ? Plus you didn't go into conviction rates or what those arrests were for. Whites get arrested fro DUI and are out of jail in a month, while certain others are arrested for crimes of violence and go to prison for decades. So that explains the discrepancy in the prison population. They are busted for worse things, like felonies. Keep on bending over backwards and they will come. The government will feel pity for the guy who put someone in a hospital robbing their house and then that hood will come to your house. Let them put many more Whites in jail and let the Blacks out, you better have bars on your windows. People in inner cities used to call it putting themselves in jail when they got home from work. You apparently come from a different background, or are too young to know. Cops are not walking though your backyard looking for n_____s, they get a phone call. I don't know where the fuck you live but you obviously have not been in the real world. First of all, you do not have to lock your doors. Nother thing, ever hear of a bumpkey ? Look it up, unless you got special (expensive) locks on your doors they can be opened, and with no signs of forced entry. But who the fuck, and I mean even the stupidest motherfucker on the planet is going door to door looking for an open one, and is going to walk in, not knowing if there is anything he can sell there and not knowing the floor plan or if the people there have guns and will shoot him ? No, they will climb in a back window, but they will do that during the day when they assume everyone is at work. They watch your cars, which is the real reason to have a garage and park in it. But I will admit that Black criminals do get caught more, disproportionately. But does that excuse their actions ? We have to let them off because they are too fucking stupid to get away with it ? T^T

Edwird -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 7:46:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Yeah, I made a mistake. But it was a mistake without distinction. Racists use either education status or criminality to slander people of color. My point remains the same. Fuck off. No, you decided he was a racist, No, actually Termy has described himself as a racist on a semi-regular basis, and makes no bones about it, uses the n word just often enough to make the point, etc. Anybody here paying attention is aware of it, he doesn't hide it, lots of people (including myself, occasionally) still converse with him, but, like or dislike, everybody's used to it. Again, for those paying attention. I don't. Termy tends to write walls of text and I skip over them. They generally don't inspire me to respond, so there's little return on the investment. I applaud you on your obsessive compilation of a dossier on everyone in the forums, it clearly adds value to your life, but it's just not for me. You're welcome. Fancy way of saying; "no, I don't pay attention, I'm oblivious to what most people here know or not about other posters, or what's already been addressed even within the thread, or anything of factual nature at all, or any stupid shit like that, because my MO is to barge in and bark like a walrus in must and knock over things, and actually knowing WTF I'm talking about is not part of the bargain." Impressive.

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 8:06:12 PM)
"No, actually Termy has described himself as a racist on a semi-regular basis," Yes but I make a distinction between that and being a bigot. I treat everyone the same until or unless they give me reason not to. Big fucking difference between what I am and what they think of as these knuckle dragging rednecks who would lynch a Black for no good reason. I have to admit to laughing at a joke that was really bad, especially when I found out it was a true story. I believe the guy's name was Emmet Hill and he was a Black who moved from up north to down south. The joke was, he whistled at a White Woman. They lynched him, wrapped the body in chain and threw him in the river. Later, the body got dredged up somehow and at the coroner's inquest the coroner say "Open and shut case, dumb n_____ stole more chain than he could swim with. It was hilarious until I found out it is a true story. That is really fucked up. I could even see her Husband going and giving Hill a good talking to, but to hang him ? Totally uncalled for. Another black eye on US history. I don't really know what to say about it but I am not participating in the White guilt party. I did not do it. My family wasn't here for slavery ad as far as I know never enslaved anyone unless you go back like a thousand years and if you do that you best pick on the Jews first. (is that Godwin ?) But the bottom line is that since I have white skin and am pretty much considered White, here is the deal. If I am considered White (Polish paternally paternally and German and Slovak maternally) and I share this guilt, I am not giving this country up to anyone. If we wear that guilt we keep the land. And there is no going back, what's done is done. So anyone who wants me to give up anything can go fuck themselves. We Whites (if I am one) GAVE those others their rights here and I am starting to think it is time to take them back. This place has gone to hell. And both liberals and republicans have wrecked it. (I will NOT call republicans conservative because they are not, not at all) So now they want to let in all kind of "refugees" ? Yeah "What do you have to declare Achmed ?", "Two AK-47s with twelve magazines and some plastic explosives". OK then you can go in. The US government has already ordered sheriffs in Texas to let illegals go free AND RETURN THEIR FIREARMS. And I mean things that would land one of us in jail for ten years. But just let them go. Border patrol officers have quit over this shit. One shot an armed illegal carrying a shitload of drugs and went to prison, FOR DOING HIS JOB. Bottom line, you just cannot have open borders. I do ot care about drug dealers, the government brings in the worst ones, the Mexicans bring in pot. I like pot. But the thing is that the US has stirred up the shitpot so bad that they hate us and are ready to spend their lives to get at us, because there is almost no other way. Even with a hundred million guns owners in this country we know it would be foolish to do a frontal attack on the government. After Arabs did 911, do you think they are stupider ? '' No, they are getting smarter. Next time will be even bigger, I can almost guarantee it. As long as the US creates more enemies this shit is going to happen. In the meantime, USians are deathly afraid of any harm or death and will pay any and all of their rights to prevent it, which will not work. Soe free country. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 8:12:27 PM)
"Explain to me how limited employment opportunities makes you 3 times more likely to rape a woman. " Good point. Seriously. T^T

Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 8:16:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Yeah, I made a mistake. But it was a mistake without distinction. Racists use either education status or criminality to slander people of color. My point remains the same. Fuck off. No, you decided he was a racist, No, actually Termy has described himself as a racist on a semi-regular basis, and makes no bones about it, uses the n word just often enough to make the point, etc. Anybody here paying attention is aware of it, he doesn't hide it, lots of people (including myself, occasionally) still converse with him, but, like or dislike, everybody's used to it. Again, for those paying attention. I don't. Termy tends to write walls of text and I skip over them. They generally don't inspire me to respond, so there's little return on the investment. I applaud you on your obsessive compilation of a dossier on everyone in the forums, it clearly adds value to your life, but it's just not for me. You're welcome. Fancy way of saying; "no, I don't pay attention, I'm oblivious to what most people here know or not about other posters, or what's already been addressed even within the thread, or anything of factual nature at all, or any stupid shit like that, because my MO is to barge in and bark like a walrus in must and knock over things, and actually knowing WTF I'm talking about is not part of the bargain." Impressive. No, a simple way of calling you an obsessive little fuck who spends way too much time filling your head with the thoughts of everyone who posts. I'm a tad more selective about what I read, but I'm amused at your need to try and spin a story which makes you feel better about yourself.

Edwird -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 8:40:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "No, actually Termy has described himself as a racist on a semi-regular basis," Yes but I make a distinction between that and being a bigot. I treat everyone the same until or unless they give me reason not to. Big fucking difference between what I am and what they think of as these knuckle dragging rednecks who would lynch a Black for no good reason. Yeah, my point wasn't to call you out on any of that just now, plenty of folks (including me) have said what we had to say about it on some occasion or another already. I just thought it was funny when Annoyness said to a poster "you called him a racist!", like what was common knowledge to everybody else here (including your self-aware self) was an outrage. An outrage! Too funny. Believe it or not Termy, many of your frustrations are palpable to me, even if I can't commiserate in every instance. I've known somebody or another like yourself all my adult life, I don't get all of it, but I'm not the type to immediately dismiss anything I don't understand or agree with, and unlike most who think as you do on some issues, you at least go to the trouble to explain what's behind it. Thanks for understanding that I can never agree, but I'll hear you out sometimes if I'm in the mood.

Edwird -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 8:50:13 PM)
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Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 9:00:20 PM)
"This is what you said earlier in this thread: As I've said before, crime is committed by an underclass. Therefore your demographics tend to be tainted by social reality. I think it's exceptionally unwise to infer from American statistics that people of African descent are more predisposed to crime. " Now let's hear who makes up that underclass. A people who were dragged out of the jungle and forced into a society that took thousands of years to develop. Not that that has gone right really but it is better than running away from a lion or tiger... However this last part of your statement : "unwise to infer from American statistics that people of African descent are more predisposed to crime." Actually you can, but you cannot pin this on genetics. They got a raw deal here and in many places continue to get fucked over. Some must be pissed off and some must be desperate. The poverty level means less chance of a good education which means less chance of getting out of the dumps. Part of it might be genetic but no more than Irish or whoever, I think the environment has the most to do with it. Socioeconomic status. Is Kareem Abdul Jibar out stealing ? Is LeBron James out stealing ? Was Charlie Pride out stealing ? This cannot be discarded. Whatever it is about race is not the whole story. Whites steal if they can't do anything else. (that anyone will pay for) Les Miserables, for a loaf of bread when the country was getting robbed blind by banks and corporations. That is about how it works. Beam me up Scotty. T^T

Edwird -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 9:01:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: Edwird Impressive. No, a simple way of ... blah blah blah, braying, verbal flatulence, more verbal flatulence, blah blah, etc. ... ~ yaawwwnn ~

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/8/2016 9:17:13 PM)
"African American youth need positive role models who advocate for their future, not bitter miserable old men who blame the white man for everything and teach a victim mentality to every young man they come into contact with. " It is worse than that now everyone has the victim mentality. Victimized by high taxes - refuse to pay. Victimized by low wages - refuse to work. People want the government to do everything for them. It ain't happening even with the most socialistic President you could possibly elect because the wealth to do so is not there. They can maybe do it in Norway and a few other places where they got oil and can nationalize the oil and reduce taxes and still have socialised medicine and all that, but without exports it just ain't happening. And we ain't gotem. And refugees, people do not seem to get it, other governments decide who they want the fuck out of their countries. You are a fool to take them in. Make USian a new ethnicity and then close the borders. Let the deal with their own criminals. The ones there who are pro US are in jails getting tortured. The ones they CHOOSE to send are the ones that nobody can trust. If I happened to live long enough to see an insurrection in this country, you know the first thing I would do ? Break open all the prisons. Let them all go, murderers, rapists, whatever. What's the difference ? The government is going to let other countries do it and send them here anyway. Let's see how tough their criminals are against our criminals. I mean, I know people I would not shoot with anything smaller than a 9mm. because I think it simply would not stop them. T^T

Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/9/2016 6:03:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Now let's hear who makes up that underclass. A people who were dragged out of the jungle and forced into a society that took thousands of years to develop. Not that that has gone right really but it is better than running away from a lion or tiger... There's two points here. First, the fact that people are part of an underclass is a social effect. It's not because they implicitly deserve to be there. Second, the reality is that the descendants of those African slaves are probably in a better position now than they would have been otherwise. Hell, a lot of them wouldn't even exist, which is why the issue of reparations is stupid. quote: However this last part of your statement : "unwise to infer from American statistics that people of African descent are more predisposed to crime." Actually you can, but you cannot pin this on genetics. They got a raw deal here and in many places continue to get fucked over. Some must be pissed off and some must be desperate. The poverty level means less chance of a good education which means less chance of getting out of the dumps. Part of it might be genetic but no more than Irish or whoever, I think the environment has the most to do with it. Socioeconomic status. Is Kareem Abdul Jibar out stealing ? Is LeBron James out stealing ? Was Charlie Pride out stealing ? This cannot be discarded. Whatever it is about race is not the whole story. Whites steal if they can't do anything else. (that anyone will pay for) Les Miserables, for a loaf of bread when the country was getting robbed blind by banks and corporations. That is about how it works. Beam me up Scotty. That was my point. By "predisposed", I'm talking about their genetics. I've already pointed out that socioeconomic factors are prime contributors to the increased crime rates.

vincentML -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/9/2016 6:12:35 AM)
quote: No, it tells me you don't understand the difference between identifying an issue and determining the root cause. There are multiple factors in the high crime rate of African Americans, but first, you pretend that the crime rate ISN'T high, then you want to try and pretend there are no cultural issues which are contributing factors. You reveal your own dishonesty and your own racism here. On the one hand you say it is unwise to impute criminal tendencies to people of African descent and this is exactly what you do. You slander all African Americans with your words while paying lip service to "multiple factors." Whereas the one obvious factor is crimes are committed by desperate or unmentored young men and women living in communities that have been isolated socially and economically. Crimes are not ascribable to the larger number of African Americans ~ to the attorneys and preachers, to other professional and working class African Americans. These African Americans with education and money have moved from the isolated inner cities to isolation in ring suburbs. You will not find them in the crime statistics. You said earlier in this thread: We define races based upon our perception of people's appearance and our knowledge of their culture. So, by your own account the definitive characterization of a "race" is subjective and dependent on perception. Perception is a basket of social constructs that we absorb from our "tribes." How else can you explain people hating blacks without ever encountering them? You cannot except by cultural bigotry. The one benefit of the racial classification of crime statistics is it reveals the disparity of justice in America. quote: African American youth need positive role models who advocate for their future, not bitter miserable old men who blame the white man for everything and teach a victim mentality to every young man they come into contact with. You are so fucking clueless and out of touch making false comments on the mentality of black youth. Victimization was not a characteristic to be found among the thousands of young black men and women I taught or met in 30 years of teaching in Miami city schools. I found instead that they were proud and bright and energized. "Fired up and ready to go!" Young people with dignity. Yeah, I am an old white man but I have been there in the thick of it serving the urban communities by teaching their children and doing a damn good job at my task. I do not need to hear some misbegotten bullshit about African Americans from someone who gathered his experiences in Australia and New Zealand, from some holier-than-thou, know-it-all-but-experienced-none-of-it fucktard A'ness. No, thank you, you witless moron. Fuck off.

vincentML -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/9/2016 6:26:47 AM)
quote: I have to admit to laughing at a joke that was really bad, especially when I found out it was a true story. I believe the guy's name was Emmet Hill and he was a Black who moved from up north to down south. The joke was, he whistled at a White Woman. They lynched him, wrapped the body in chain and threw him in the river. Later, the body got dredged up somehow and at the coroner's inquest the coroner say "Open and shut case, dumb n_____ stole more chain than he could swim with. It was hilarious until I found out it is a true story. That is really fucked up. I could even see her Husband going and giving Hill a good talking to, but to hang him ? Totally uncalled for. While visiting family in Money, Mississippi, 14-year-old Emmett Till, an African American from Chicago, is brutally murdered for flirting with a white woman four days earlier. His assailants–the white woman’s husband and her brother–made Emmett carry a 75-pound cotton-gin fan to the bank of the Talahatchie River and ordered him to take off his clothes. The two men then beat him nearly to death, gouged out his eye, shot him in the head, and then threw his body, tied to the cotton-gin fan with barbed wire, into the river. Till grew up in a working-class neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, and though he had attended a segregated elementary school, he was not prepared for the level of segregation he encountered in Mississippi. His mother warned him to take care because of his race, but Emmett enjoyed pulling pranks. On August 24, while standing with his cousins and some friends outside a country store in Money, Emmett bragged that his girlfriend back home was white. Emmett’s African American companions, disbelieving him, dared Emmett to ask the white woman sitting behind the store counter for a date. He went in, bought some candy, and on the way out was heard saying, “Bye, baby” to the woman. There were no witnesses in the store, but Carolyn Bryant–the woman behind the counter–claimed that he grabbed her, made lewd advances, and then wolf-whistled at her as he sauntered out. Why are you so ignorant?

Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/10/2016 11:56:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML You reveal your own dishonesty and your own racism here. On the one hand you say it is unwise to impute criminal tendencies to people of African descent and this is exactly what you do. No. You're lying. That's not what I said at all. quote: You slander all African Americans with your words while paying lip service to "multiple factors." African Americans commit crime at disproportionately higher rates than other races. That is a fact. Facts are not slander, they are facts. You're a moron. quote: Whereas the one obvious factor is crimes are committed by desperate or unmentored young men and women living in communities that have been isolated socially and economically. Parroting what I've already said is not making a point. It's just demonstrating that you're either too stupid to understand the discussion or too dishonest to contribute to it. quote: Crimes are not ascribable to the larger number of African Americans ~ to the attorneys and preachers, to other professional and working class African Americans. These African Americans with education and money have moved from the isolated inner cities to isolation in ring suburbs. You will not find them in the crime statistics. Yes you will. Upward mobility doesn't make you immune to criminal activity. quote: So, by your own account the definitive characterization of a "race" is subjective and dependent on perception. Perception is a basket of social constructs that we absorb from our "tribes." How else can you explain people hating blacks without ever encountering them? You cannot except by cultural bigotry. Look, you're just not smart enough for this discussion. You just aren't. Perception is not a basket of social constructs, it's an interpretation of the evidence of our senses based through the filter of our internal beliefs. That's what perception is. And hating other races is a consequence of growing up isolated from them, never meeting them or having a bad first experience when you do and consequently categorising them as "the other". People who are exposed to other races in a positive social environment tend to see them as human and often as neighbours. That's how racism forms. It is not "cultural bigotry". That's a lazy, stupid explanation with zero insight. quote: The one benefit of the racial classification of crime statistics is it reveals the disparity of justice in America. You can get judicial disparity from looking at male/female arrest, conviction and sentencing statistics. Women have the lowest rates of arrest and conviction and get the lightest sentences for the same crime. quote: You are so fucking clueless and out of touch making false comments on the mentality of black youth. Victimization was not a characteristic to be found among the thousands of young black men and women I taught or met in 30 years of teaching in Miami city schools. I found instead that they were proud and bright and energized. "Fired up and ready to go!" Young people with dignity. Oh bullshit. You're talking a bunch of utter rubbish. Black students in Miami have the lowest attendance rate, the highest rate of outdoor suspensions and they live in one of the most violent cities in America. Your testimony is a bunch of fucking lies. quote: Yeah, I am an old white man You forgot the words "stupid" and "bigoted".

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/11/2016 12:31:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: I have to admit to laughing at a joke that was really bad, especially when I found out it was a true story. I believe the guy's name was Emmet Hill and he was a Black who moved from up north to down south. The joke was, he whistled at a White Woman. They lynched him, wrapped the body in chain and threw him in the river. Later, the body got dredged up somehow and at the coroner's inquest the coroner say "Open and shut case, dumb n_____ stole more chain than he could swim with. It was hilarious until I found out it is a true story. That is really fucked up. I could even see her Husband going and giving Hill a good talking to, but to hang him ? Totally uncalled for. While visiting family in Money, Mississippi, 14-year-old Emmett Till, an African American from Chicago, is brutally murdered for flirting with a white woman four days earlier. His assailants–the white woman’s husband and her brother–made Emmett carry a 75-pound cotton-gin fan to the bank of the Talahatchie River and ordered him to take off his clothes. The two men then beat him nearly to death, gouged out his eye, shot him in the head, and then threw his body, tied to the cotton-gin fan with barbed wire, into the river. Till grew up in a working-class neighborhood on the south side of Chicago, and though he had attended a segregated elementary school, he was not prepared for the level of segregation he encountered in Mississippi. His mother warned him to take care because of his race, but Emmett enjoyed pulling pranks. On August 24, while standing with his cousins and some friends outside a country store in Money, Emmett bragged that his girlfriend back home was white. Emmett’s African American companions, disbelieving him, dared Emmett to ask the white woman sitting behind the store counter for a date. He went in, bought some candy, and on the way out was heard saying, “Bye, baby” to the woman. There were no witnesses in the store, but Carolyn Bryant–the woman behind the counter–claimed that he grabbed her, made lewd advances, and then wolf-whistled at her as he sauntered out. Why are you so ignorant? That is a different account of these happenings than I got. But then that's how it goes. T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/11/2016 12:35:18 AM)
"Upward mobility doesn't make you immune to criminal activity. " Hell, in this country, criminal activity is the best way to upward mobility. T^T

Awareness -> RE: Of species, race, and ethnicity.... (11/11/2016 6:18:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "Upward mobility doesn't make you immune to criminal activity. " Hell, in this country, criminal activity is the best way to upward mobility. T^T It's one way, but generally the baccalaureate degree (in a STEM subject) is what does it.

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