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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/7/2016 8:26:54 PM   
ThatDizzyChick


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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/7/2016 11:35:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about a "Upgraded Membership?" A person would have the option to pay a monthly fee and that person would get extra benefits. Since the person paid with his/her credit card would't it show he/she is more authentic?

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 12:51:05 AM   
Alecta


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Status: offline 		The point is, authenticity is subjective and any system like that would simply end up being broken and abused for money and wank.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 2:05:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MaryMaryProDom
How about a "Upgraded Membership?" A person would have the option to pay a monthly fee and that person would get extra benefits. Since the person paid with his/her credit card would't it show he/she is more authentic?

You are assuming that the member is using their own credit card.
There are also many legit people that don't have any sort of credit card too.
So how would you get around that problem??
And remember, not every member lives in the US where credit cards are easy to get.

So a credit card is no guarantee of authenticity.
Not everyone, on any site, is genuine either.
Nor are they who they portray themselves to be.
It is expensive to implement a payment system and even more expensive to hire staff to double-check that the person paying is also the person actually using the site.
I could so easily use my wife's credit card and submit her photo and yet it would be me interacting with everyone.
So no, it wouldn't be any sort of verification at all - as is evident of all the fakes on other pay sites.

There was a good discussion (last year~ish??) and many said they would not be here if there were any sort of subscriptions.
Given that the site has a number of known problems, it would need a humungous and radical re-vamp and upgrade for anyone to consider paying for it.



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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 5:59:13 AM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		OsideGirl & also Docstrange (really looked forward to that film;) who both in essence say “The common denominator here is you, which means there is something flawed in your search method” I think both are overly harsh i will explain whyso later.

Needlesandpins fabs?

Whoremods not impossible but very very unlikely there was a user here “her” name escapes me she got up to about 14 000 posts on here with a picture like that - or some else pictures with a username..yup it was on that other place too

At the end of the day i see no better system than fabs (which i think is the busiest site in the UK surpassing even fishee) - but there is a new kid on the block - let me get the word order correct dating kinky I think theirs is excellent, better perhaps.

Now the sensible stuff:
1. Because any member of any site chooses not to use a photo verification system does not necessary make them fake – but it is default not to lump them in with the 99% suspect category/
2. Few women join this site I explained why today it’s the sites name nothing more, or less. It simply require a softer more alluring socially acceptable name – not perceive extreme/endgame/singular outcome
3. The problem on here is not the actual genuine women – the problem on here is the pretend women and pretend scammers and pretend money vortexes.

Photo verification system is the only way to go and judging by the unique visitors oh eg posters it is not default to manage. I could do that and I am severely fuked with the CFS/ME

That is the only way to go. And yet here I am 12 years, or is it 13 years later and nothing only stagnation.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 12:35:26 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
It was one of the first things I thought of when I looked at this message board again about a week ago. Anyway, I think it's rude to "talk in code" on someone else's thread, so I'll stop, but if you want to continue for whatever reason, if you write me on Fet, I'll respond.

But what I'm trying to say is that I think the OP has a point. He's frustrated, so he's expressing himself like a bit of dick, and that probably doesn't help his chances with the ladies, but I think it's probably harder to meet women here than it used to be, and it was never easy. And, like other dating sites, 10% of the people get 90% of the dates. I just happened to be part of that 10% here because I type gud.

If I think of it over the next week or so, I will. I'm actually going into the busy part of my week, so my time is really weird until at least Friday afternoon.

The OP also has some stuff that is working against him. It's not just approach and frustration. He's also expressed on other threads that he's not willing to attend group/community events, so he's going to have fewer women willing to meet him one on one. Also, he's been a member for months, but he's only recently began posting, so he loses the familiarity factor. That's something you always had on your side, so you have to account for that in the increased success factor.



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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 12:38:00 PM   
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Since the person paid with his/her credit card would't it show he/she is more authentic?

No. That simply does not follow.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/8/2016 12:48:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Needlesandpins fabs?




Yep yep

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/9/2016 5:26:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why's it unlikely? It's no harder to edit a stolen photo than it is to invent a fake online persona. A lot of these image editors are designed to let chavs add text to their selfies, FFS: how difficult do you expect them to be to use?

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/9/2016 7:01:10 AM   
WickedsDesire


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Status: offline 		Needlesandpins you can get around any system but theirs is pretty good (the site numbers do not lie) - i am not sure if they allow sign on with Tor/vpn clients etc perhaps. I dont doubt for a second I could photo verify myself as 10 different people all pictures of me. Not perfect but as good as you are going to get....

But stalkers do get a bit creepy at times...so if someone mails me here, there, or fishee (now that place is completely out of control with stolen pictures) there is always part of me that thinks do they know me, met me, talked to me before...which is another reason i always like to know whom i am talking too....is that paranoia?

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/16/2016 5:39:05 PM   
mrsincere


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Status: offline 		Hello all.

Just popped back in and saw this thread still going.

I'll clarify a few things.

1.) My original point is correct. This site is jam-packed full of scammers and fakes. That's a fact. Yes I can spot them. Yes they are still an annoying problem. Maybe my specific idea to fix it isn't the final end-all solution, but I'm not wrong to suggest an improvement.

2.) No, the problem isn't me. Don't jump to defend this site because you found something real. It's full of fakes.

3.) Not to sound cocky, but I've got a good profile. (Male sub with self respect, reasonable social skills, a good job, and I take care of myself). I also have pretty broad search criteria. So no, it's not me, it's the site. That's not to say nobody good is out there, but like I was originally saying, you have to wade through a lot of shit.

Cheers mates.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/16/2016 8:00:50 PM   
Alecta


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Status: offline 		How about we do this authentication thing by having people show up at a appointed time and place to verify they exist, the right gender and age, and... well, I guess you're not actually interested in anything else about them except that...... oh, wait.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/16/2016 8:29:44 PM   
sovereignsays


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Status: offline 		You whined about being asked for money. Moments later, you used this very forum to bait findommes. The problem is definitely you.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/16/2016 11:43:46 PM   
mrsincere


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Status: offline 		My bad. You're right. The overwhelming majority of accounts being fake scammers is my fault. I'll try to knock that off.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 11/17/2016 11:59:30 AM   
Inghammar


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Status: offline 		If users rate other users we'd get into the same trouble as that new Youtube Heroes program. 'Won't agree to meet me for sex in the bathroom of an Applebees? Obviously fake! Zero stars!'

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RE: Authenticity rating - 12/17/2016 5:14:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		The lack of any diligence by the site operator is making the site essentially unusable for it's intended purpose. I returned here after a break of many years from the old site. Even filtering the obvious scam profiles and dropping replies that didn't seem kosher, in a little over a week I have seen:

- enough subs who's 'Master recently died' to suspect a serial killer is preying on the community
- a 'girl' with her primary profile picture standing in front of the Louvre in Paris, privately sending me a picture from the Del Mar racetrack (San Diego), and claiming to live in Indiana. When I asked, she told me the pictures were taken in Nigeria visiting her father before he died
- someone called to voice verify and was using some kind of modulation app, I asked what the accent was and (s)He said 'Swedish'! Then sent pictures of a light skinned black woman!

Even if you take a Libertarian buyer beware view of things, the degradation of trust undermines the whole purpose of the site. I am pretty sure I completely shut down a real person I had a good connection with this week because she was uncomfortable verifying in any way.

There are a number of trivial things that could be done without requiring significant coding or support.
- geoblocking Africa would probably eliminate 1/3 of the scam accounts immediately
- showing an icon on pictures that can be found on a reverse image search of the internet
- even doing this internally would be a good start, I see a good number of duped images across profiles
- linking to all the other profiles that have been logged into from the same IP address in the past 30 days within the full profile page

Ranting over.

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RE: Authenticity rating - 12/17/2016 5:22:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The site has been ignored largely since before you left, this is the same site.
Same issues, same lack of moderators being paid to do the jobs you desire.
Im pretty sure if you would like to volunteer they might respond to your requests, but then again....


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RE: Authenticity rating - 12/17/2016 5:53:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cortb

The lack of any diligence by the site operator is making the site essentially unusable for it's intended purpose.

That presumes that you're correct on what the site's intended purpose is these days. If you assume it's anything other than ad revenue, I think you would be mistaken.



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RE: Authenticity rating - 12/17/2016 7:58:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nothing I suggested would require moderator time. It could all be scripted easily.

I think you seriously underestimate how long ago I was on CM. When I was there I was chastised for posting a link to XKCD. Now you have web links, email addresses and phone numbers all over the place. Phone numbers are particularly ridiculous. How many of those profiles were maliciously created to send harassing messages to someone? It's understandable why people are reluctant to voice verify when exposing your phone number can get you doxxed on this site.

Kudos to those of you who keep supporting this place year after year. That's what I call being a legit masochist!

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RE: Authenticity rating - 12/17/2016 10:02:04 PM   
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It could all be scripted easily.

And obviously the owners don't feel the expense of doing so is worth it. Our point is not that the site is great or couldn't use some improvement, but more that it just isn't going to happen.

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