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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:04:19 AM   
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The US Isn't looking for purity (that's got to be obvious considering who our Presidential candidates are) It is however looking for conformity. It's not racist or xenophobic to expect immigrants to conform to the society the US has created. It's the ones who want the US to change and turn into the countries they left that are unwelcome.

Yes you can have religious freedom, but your freedom ends where mine begins. You want to follow Muhammad, be my guest, But don't try to force me to.

You want to speak your native language, be my guest. But don't get pissed when I try to communicate with you speaking English.



Therein lies an unspoken issue, too:

Those that don't wish to learn English, that's fine (my dear friend's grandmother never did), but don't bitch and complain, when you want a job, dealing with the public (which, by-and-large, speaks English). Don't bitch, when you can't help your children with their homework (in a school where teachers should NOT be required to teach classes in a second language). I know schools where native-born American children were forced to take (and have great difficulty with) classes in Spanish because of children who had learned the laziness and arrogance of their parents and refused to learn English.

It takes a special kind of balls to come to this country illegally and then demand that we acquiesce to YOUR laziness/inability.



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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:07:41 AM   
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I don't see European countries bordering the middle east allowing polygamous marriages to their Muslims.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:11:36 AM   
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You want to speak your native language, be my guest. But don't get pissed when I try to communicate with you speaking English.

I get this problem in Singapore when a PRC staff sees me, I would first place my order in English and then they will ask me if I could place my order in Mandarin instead? This could be at like KFC or MacDonalds.

And then I'd get really angry about it, because I'd tell them, this is Singapore, we speak English as the main language here. Would you have asked an Indian or a Malay the same thing? WTF? Why do I have to speak in Mandarin to you?



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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:13:06 AM   
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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:32:25 AM   
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I don't see European countries bordering the middle east allowing polygamous marriages to their Muslims.



Singapore is not merely a 'border state', it is a tiny speck in the middle of a large area that has been predominantly Muslim centuries before the British empire showed up and created your little microstate for you.




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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:45:11 AM   
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It's not xenophobia not to accept cultures that are negative and incompatible.

I mean honour killing is a culture. Is it xenophobia to refused to accept their culture?


That is easy to deal with. A country has laws. In the US we have laws to say what we allow or not. We don't reject a people because of their culture, we only reject whatever particular thing in that culture that is not legal here. Rejecting a particular item from a culture is not rejecting the entire culture. And accepting what of their culture is legal here does not necessarily mean we accept everything in their culture, Islamophobic screaming on that last point notwithstanding.



Again I disagree. Maybe because I came from a country where polygamous marriage is made legally allowed for Muslims only. The waived the need for them to follow civil law in that aspect. That is them accepting one of their culture. So to extend your law to disallow their culture, is a form of not accepting their culture.



In America we say fuck you mormons, you will conform to our state religion or we throw your asses in jail! China the land of the free!


we only reject whatever particular thing in that culture that is not legal here. Rejecting a particular item from a culture is not rejecting the entire culture

Hence the gubblemint creates a religion, and tarded americans have no clue that is the case because they arent even able to read a fucking dictionary to a correct conclusion.


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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:47:13 AM   
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I don't see European countries bordering the middle east allowing polygamous marriages to their Muslims.



Singapore is not merely a 'border state', it is a tiny speck in the middle of a large area that has been predominantly Muslim centuries before the British empire showed up and created your little microstate for you.






yeh brits have a tendency to draw borders around everything they see and claim it for the crown. religion is personal and does not require a club membership to be the case

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:50:20 AM   
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Number 1, Geisha women are kinda seen as whores. The Japanese are more than happy for the chinese to play a "whore" role.

Don't you know Jap and chinese hate each other?

That is the real reason.

Of course technically they aren't suppose to sleep with men, but they are there to entertain men.

I was peripherally aware of it, comfort woman. I watched the Rape of Nanking with a Korean cast.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:51:23 AM   
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After the most brutal election campaign in living memory, one thing is clear irrespective of who wins - the USA is deeply divided, with fault lines on race, gender and class reflecting that divide. The racism xenophobia and hate that marred the election campaign needs to be stared down. The naked anger that fuelled Trump's campaign needs to be recognised and addressed.

Healing will be a great deal easier if the losing candidate concedes defeat gracefully, as tradition has long had it. However on this there are no guarantees from one side. Will the losers accept the people's verdict? If not what does the future hold for the US? Will the GOP split into populist and establishment wings with the populist wing refusing to accept a possible Clinton Presidency under any circumstances? Will healing and unity be possible if a significant portion of the population withholds consent and tries to delegitimise the result?

How can the complex issues that intersect with those deep fault lines be resolved in a manner that will satisfy the electorate? Is a solution possible to issues like abortion, institutional racism, unemployment and underemployment? Will Trump or Clinton be the person to achieve that resolution and reconciliation? Will Congress rise to the challenge or continue in its self indulgent blanket opposition to Presidential initiatives? And if they fail .....?

Will we end up having to remove the 'United' bit from the United States of America?

ETA: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37891511



what do you expect to heal with a gubmint that is corrupt to its core that is so far disconnected from the people it functioned better under the king prerevolution?

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:52:12 AM   
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I don't see European countries bordering the middle east allowing polygamous marriages to their Muslims.


There are quite some European men who would not mind polygamous marriages at all (and not for religious reasons) for sure.

There are other non-Muslim-majority countries that allow polygamy for Muslims, like the Philippines, Nigeria, South Africa, Mauritius, India, Sri Lanka, Eritrea.

Which you could of course know if you bothered to get information about what you want to post before you post.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 7:56:25 AM   
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In America we say fuck you mormons, you will conform to our state religion or we throw your asses in jail!



If you want your taxes to subsidize polygamy by tax benefits of the husband filing jointly with five wives, you're welcome to it. We'll make a special check box on the tax form just for you, so you can pay all of it. Thanks for leaving the rest of us out of it.




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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:01:50 AM   
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In America we say fuck you mormons, you will conform to our state religion or we throw your asses in jail!



If you want your taxes to subsidize polygamy by tax benefits of the husband filing jointly with five wives, you're welcome to it. We'll make a special check box on the tax form just for you, so you can pay all of it. Thanks for leaving the rest of us out of it.





so punish polygamists because you arent qualified to keep the books is that it?

Your commercial god says one shoe will fit everyone and your statist religion rules the day.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:09:31 AM   
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gubmint corruption creates exponentially increasing divisions in the people forced to serve it.



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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:11:40 AM   
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In America we say fuck you mormons, you will conform to our state religion or we throw your asses in jail!


If you want your taxes to subsidize polygamy by tax benefits of the husband filing jointly with five wives, you're welcome to it. We'll make a special check box on the tax form just for you, so you can pay all of it. Thanks for leaving the rest of us out of it.

so punish polygamists because you arent qualified to keep the books is that it?


Yep, poly the pugilist aren't book enough to keep qualified because that's it.

Just like you said.


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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:12:59 AM   
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In America we say fuck you mormons, you will conform to our state religion or we throw your asses in jail!



If you want your taxes to subsidize polygamy by tax benefits of the husband filing jointly with five wives, you're welcome to it. We'll make a special check box on the tax form just for you, so you can pay all of it. Thanks for leaving the rest of us out of it.



so punish polygamists because you arent qualified to keep the books is that it?


Yep, poly the pugilist aren't book enough to keep qualified because that's it.

Just like you said.



welcome to the brit mobocracy model

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:26:06 AM   
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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:28:53 AM   
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needs of gubmint (mob) over the needs of the people.

they never forget to tell us how free we are!





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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:33:02 AM   
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gubmint-alloidal-foef-magnacharta-gubmint.

Its out there...............

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:34:22 AM   
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nm, its been changed

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 8:37:22 AM   
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needs of gubmint (mob) over the needs of the people.

they never forget to tell us how free we are!



Also, did you notice that the British anthem is called God Save the Queen, and US currency says In God We Trust? Those sneaky bastards, with all that subliminal insertion stuff, imposing their culture, no, their brand ... no, their EMPIRE on us! Every time we buy bubble gum, why don't we just kneel before the candy counter as we lay our coins upon it and accept the reality.



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