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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 11:39:41 PM   
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You may be right DS about some people opposing ILLEGAL immigration but from some of the ones I saw on TV over here, they opposed ALL immigration and wanted to keep America pure for 'murikans' ( or at least that's what it sounded like.) How pure-blood is the average American ? Like Australians, he is more of a mix than hokey-pokey ice cream. THAT'S what makes a country.

I think people who oppose ALL immigration are minority.
I think Trump philosophy is the same as Australia and Singapore.
Regulate immigrant strictly. Only allow people in who are here to contribute positively and help create more jobs and not add burdens to the country.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 11:44:35 PM   
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Good luck getting a response to that: I'm still waiting for an explanation of how the use of the kanji alphabet in Japan isn't a Chinese cultural import.


Every culture reserves the right to take in some things that make sense too. As well as they have the right to reject infusion of things that don't make sense.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/8/2016 11:52:59 PM   
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Good luck getting a response to that: I'm still waiting for an explanation of how the use of the kanji alphabet in Japan isn't a Chinese cultural import.


Every culture reserves the right to take in some things that make sense too. As well as they have the right to reject infusion of things that don't make sense.


Things... and ideas.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:07:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		The US was always going to have problems after this election, but honestly, I think it's probably going to break apart now. In fact, I hope it does... because it does not deserve to have the influence it does on the world.

Trump was always supposed to be a terrible joke, the right wingers trolling the system to see if they could get away with it... I honestly thought that Hillary would breeze through, and lose after 4 years to a GOP candidate with half a brain. But instead, we have this goddam nightmare. We have a guy who will get to the white house in January and not know what to do... whether or not he cares to learn is up in the air, but I can only imagine the sort of shit that is going to come out of his mouth in the next 4 years. Humiliating, painful shit that might even let his ignorant supporters know exactly what kind of mistake they've made.

Trump is not a unifier in any sense of the word... he campaigned on hate, stupidity and ignorance. It will grow and grow and his 'policies' will do nothing but aggravate the divisions between classes, races, cultures, countries, intellectuals and anti-intellectuals, etc. He might even be able to distract people with enough scapegoating and hatred to win another term.

I don't think I'm alone in saying that this election has completely destroyed what little faith I had in democracy and has certainly made me question western culture and its values. How could anything that is as inherently good as some people think produce such a terrible string of events? How could liberal democracy have failed so badly?

The agonizing humiliation of watching this man pretend to be a respectable figure on a daily basis is more than my masochistic mind can bear. Knowing that there are people out there who can't tell the difference between Trump and someone who deserves to be there is too much to bear. There will be people who will tell me it isn't going to be so bad, but the reasons they give me will be too ignorant to bear.

This is seriously drop-out-of-society levels of existential despair.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:11:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think the problem with you, is that you are so brainwashed by mainstream media, you are just sprouting their nonsense.

Thank goodness. We still have people who are immune to being lib zombiefied voting to vote for common sense.

May i suggest, get news from all angles. Do BBC, RT, FOX, and 2 other Lib media of your choice for balance view. And then you will get a clearer picture.

Trump will work towards partnership as he said. He will get people to work together for the greater good.

Obama was a divider. So will be Hillary. It is clear in this election, the real person encouraging divisiveness was the left, but they spin it as accusing the other side for divisiveness. It's like, whatever they are doing, they accuse the other side of that crime. And that is the operandi modus of left currently, which thankfully, is not working.




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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:13:36 AM   
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I think the problem with you, is that you are so brainwashed by mainstream media, you are just sprouting their nonsense.

Thank goodness. We still have people who are immune to being lib zombiefied voting to vote for common sense.


Yeah, I guess following the media is pretty stupid.

I should focus exclusively on my own imagination like you do.

And if you seriously think that Trump is going to unite Americans you are objectively deluded. So America is going to rally around pussy-grabbing, Islamophobia and trade wars???

I get that you want to blow the guy but if you think he's going to unite anyone or that America isn't going to be even more divided after 4 years of Trump, your ignorance is beyond astounding.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:16:09 AM   
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Yeah, I guess following the media is pretty stupid.

I should focus exclusively on conspiracy sites and my own imagination like you do.

None of any I have listed are conspiracy sites.
If you just read Huff Post all day and nothing else. This is the unified zombiefied conclusion anybody who does that will reach.

RT is actually very good balance for what is going on in Syria in contrast to what main stream media is reporting or hiding.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:17:59 AM   
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None of any I have listed are conspiracy sites.
If you just read Huff Post all day and nothing else. This is the unified zombiefied conclusion anybody who does that will reach.


I focus on their platforms, Greta.

Do you even know what Trump is promising to do??

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:41:39 AM   
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I focus on their platforms, Greta.
Do you even know what Trump is promising to do??

Trump wants to bring manufacturing back. He wants people of the world to think of "Made in USA" is something everybody is willing to pay a big premium for. Like products from Germany and Japan. Put US on the map for quality products again!

Trump wants to fix the illegal immigration problem, find a way to get rid of illegals from the US. And focus on a way to only make sure the people who can contribute positively gets in, and the ones who are here to for crimes stays out.

Trump wants to fix Obamacare, so it can be more affordable for the masses. And also, media never reports the good things he said. He actually feels very strongly about having good healthcare so no sick people will be left behind even if they have no money for health care. He wants a system where everyone who gets sick can be taken care of. Left media never reports his strong emotional views on this. And he been saying this since last year, before Obama care premium hikes this year!

Trump wants to fix infrastructure, he feels that US is lagging behind from the world, in having upgraded infrastructure.

And he wants to lower taxes for everybody. To leave more money in the pocket for more spending and to help companies to have more budget to employ more people.

These are the gist of what he is going to work on.

And despite left media lying about China gonna hate Trump. China favours Trump like Russia. China is all about business, it's very unemotional for them. They view Trump as more favourable as Clinton in terms of building stronger relations with them.


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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:46:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everything you have listed there will cost money greta. I can promise you a Rolls Royce with a gold plated bath in the back and I would willingly give you it. There is one small but very significant problem. It costs money. A lot of money. I don't have that kind of money. Trump promised many things ( as did Clinton) but neither of them said where all that delicious stratospheric pie was going to come from or who was going to pay for it or how and what it was going to cost the country ( the people) in shady back-room deals with other countries, other manufacturers, lobbyists, etc.,etc.,etc..

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:52:08 AM   
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Everything you have listed there will cost money greta. I can promise you a Rolls Royce with a gold plated bath in the back and I would willingly give you it. There is one small but very significant problem. It costs money. A lot of money. I don't have that kind of money. Trump promised many things ( as did Clinton) but neither of them said where all that delicious stratospheric pie was going to come from or who was going to pay for it or how and what it was going to cost the country ( the people) in shady back-room deals with other countries, other manufacturers, lobbyists, etc.,etc.,etc..


His plan to improve healthcare is more about business sense, opening competition, so he can get insurance companies to compete for premiums so that the premiums can go down. Personally, currently the system works in a way where insurance companies practically went broke. I think Trump has a better idea of how this can benefit both insurance companies and people in a win-win. I think he is designing something quite similar to what we have in Singapore.

Everything Clinton wants to do cost money too.

But if there is one thing Trump is good at, is making crazy things happen, at low cost.

I mean, he probably ran the cheapest election for a non political candidate and won.

His philosophy is to achieve everything ahead of time and under budget. That's his business model.

That's how he is gonna figure out how to deliver for the country too.

We think it's impossible because we have never ourselves delivered big projects under budget and ahead of schedule. But it is possible. And he will figure it out.



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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 2:58:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		you may be right greta. Who am I to argue ? I don't even live in the US and tonight, I am thanking my gods for that.

To any of my friends in the USA though, I can possibly find room for three or four of you here if things SHOULD turn sour and mass sackings become the order of the day. Just make sure you have enough for the airfare !!

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:04:41 AM   
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To any of my friends in the USA though, I can possibly find room for three or four of you here if things SHOULD turn sour and mass sackings become the order of the day. Just make sure you have enough for the airfare !!

If you post that online classifieds somewhere, offering refuge to liberals. You might get flooded with responses.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:09:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not targeting either side. The sackings will know no politics. They never have in the past and history has been known to repeat itself, believe it or not.

Not everything that everybody says or does has a political bias greta. Some people do things because they have to be done, NOT because it's the thing the left does or the right does but because THEY themselves do it as human beings with free will.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:12:07 AM   
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The US was always going to have problems after this election, but honestly, I think it's probably going to break apart now. In fact, I hope it does... because it does not deserve to have the influence it does on the world.

Trump was always supposed to be a terrible joke, the right wingers trolling the system to see if they could get away with it... I honestly thought that Hillary would breeze through, and lose after 4 years to a GOP candidate with half a brain. But instead, we have this goddam nightmare. We have a guy who will get to the white house in January and not know what to do... whether or not he cares to learn is up in the air, but I can only imagine the sort of shit that is going to come out of his mouth in the next 4 years. Humiliating, painful shit that might even let his ignorant supporters know exactly what kind of mistake they've made.

Trump is not a unifier in any sense of the word... he campaigned on hate, stupidity and ignorance. It will grow and grow and his 'policies' will do nothing but aggravate the divisions between classes, races, cultures, countries, intellectuals and anti-intellectuals, etc. He might even be able to distract people with enough scapegoating and hatred to win another term.

I don't think I'm alone in saying that this election has completely destroyed what little faith I had in democracy and has certainly made me question western culture and its values. How could anything that is as inherently good as some people think produce such a terrible string of events? How could liberal democracy have failed so badly?

The agonizing humiliation of watching this man pretend to be a respectable figure on a daily basis is more than my masochistic mind can bear. Knowing that there are people out there who can't tell the difference between Trump and someone who deserves to be there is too much to bear. There will be people who will tell me it isn't going to be so bad, but the reasons they give me will be too ignorant to bear.

This is seriously drop-out-of-society levels of existential despair.

How about some cheese with that whine.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:18:46 AM   
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you may be right greta. Who am I to argue ? I don't even live in the US and tonight, I am thanking my gods for that.

To any of my friends in the USA though, I can possibly find room for three or four of you here if things SHOULD turn sour and mass sackings become the order of the day. Just make sure you have enough for the airfare !!

Well heavyblinker is soooooo distraught he may have to take you up on the offer.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:21:06 AM   
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How about some cheese with that whine.


HAHAHAH OMG U SPELLED WHINE WITH AN H AS IN WHINING AND THEN YOU OFFERED ME CHEESE BECAUSE CHEESE GOES WITH WINE WITH NO H HOLY FUCK U ARE SO FUNNY THIS JOKE IS VERY GOOD CONGRATULATIONS.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:30:20 AM   
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How about some cheese with that whine.

I am definitely celebrating with a night of nice dinner and champagne with an American who has put in a vote for Trump and then celebratory sex all night :)
What great timing he is in town this week!
I guess if Hillary wins, then we both we would like be commiserating in disappointment instead hehe, could have been either way!


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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 3:34:44 AM   
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How about some cheese with that whine.


HAHAHAH OMG U SPELLED WHINE WITH AN H AS IN WHINING AND THEN YOU OFFERED ME CHEESE BECAUSE CHEESE GOES WITH WINE WITH NO H HOLY FUCK U ARE SO FUNNY THIS JOKE IS VERY GOOD CONGRATULATIONS.


A bit over melodramatic aren't ya lad, now now it will be o'way.

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RE: How will the US heal itself? - 11/9/2016 4:03:15 AM   
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trump should never take off his Kevlar jacket.

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