RE: How will the US heal itself?

RE: How will the US heal itself? (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion

Message

Real0ne -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 4:04:18 AM)
FR we elected trump, good start to the healing process

Edwird -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 4:42:36 AM)
Yep, just a nice long ongoing cauterization for some time to come. Maybe we should call it the annealing process.

WhoreMods -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 5:55:53 AM)
He's certainly going to bleed the patient some: maybe you should go old school for a description and call it the leeching process?

PeonForHer -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 6:02:43 AM)
quote: tweak.. trump should never take off his Kevlar jacket. I was wondering about that. And how many extra Secret Service personnel they're going to need to draft in.

cloudboy -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 6:17:35 AM)
The best case scenario is a Trump pivot -- the guy changes into whatever he needs to be at the moment. Its his moment-to-moment changeability that has the establishment worried. We will see markets tank, international alliances fray, a possible militarization of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and a god-knows-what use of the US military abroad. Tax cuts will be passed for the wealthy and Obamacare will be rescinded -- and its unclear how Trump would fund rebuilding the US infrastructure. I'm curious if and when Trump will stop simply making things up. All in all Dilbert Creator Scott Adams was right. He predicted a Trump victory all along. Donald Trump will win in a landslide. *The mind behind Dilbert explains why

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:00:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker It won't. The US does not want to come together or agree. How can people still be outraged over their conspiracy theories and general paranoia if they're not divided? How could anyone possibly justify amassing gun collections if they don't feel like the shit is going to hit the fan at any minute? Getting along and working together is too boring for it to ever work. Nobody ever mentions my golf collection. I wonder why my gun collection fascinates them and they continue to project motivations for it? Just sloppy thinking.

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:07:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 It's not xenophobia not to accept cultures that are negative and incompatible. You're talking about customs, not cultures. But seriously, look at what you're saying... 'cultures should be kept pure'. Do you know any famous 20th century figures who were big on racial and cultural purity? Like Louis Farakan, Jessie Jackson, shites and sunnies, native Americans and really natives still in countries all over the world. Asians are pretty cultural unaccepting of others. Parts of Europe with the Arian race. I'd say it was the rule and the make believe leftist mantra can't we all get along is the fantasy.

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:16:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 There is nothing Chinese about Japanese. Apart from the kanji alphabet, Buddhism and Confuscianism, the I Ching and various other adopted Chinese classics, the cultural tendency towards elaborate and highly structured bureaucratic systems, filial piety and probably a lot more that doesn't immediately spring to mind, you mean? The Japanese have had a tendency towards dismissing Chinese influences on their culture since Japan was opened up to the west, and certainly the west has been far more of influence since the nineteenth century, but saying that there's no cultural influence from China into Japan is just plain daft. Not much Confusciaism in Japan, although there is Shinto which isn't in China. Japan doesn't do much IChing or Chinese classics. Japanese filial duty comes from Bushido, Chinese filial duty comes from Confusianism, totally different. Japanese structured bureaucratic context came from McAuthor, Chinese from Mao. I, pretty much, not see a salient point you've made. I do, however, point out that Chinese Philosophers have, for hundreds of years, said that white Euorpeans don't understand their culture and confuse it. So, you're right in there with the other colonists.

WhoreMods -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:21:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Japanese structured bureaucratic context came from McAuthor, Chinese from Mao. You can seriously argue this one with a straight face? Fucking hell, do you know anything about the history of feudalism in either country?

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:23:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Healing will be a great deal easier if the losing candidate concedes defeat gracefully, as tradition has long had it. Like Al Gore right? Or Jefferson and Adams? And let's not forget the election of Lincoln. sigh You are such a hatchet faced nutmeg dealer with neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. Actually, Nixon did gracefully concede to Kennedy even though he could have done an Al Gore (sore/loserman). But he put the country ahead of himself.

MercTech -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:39:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle After the most brutal election campaign in living memory, one thing is clear irrespective of who wins - the USA is deeply divided, with fault lines on race, gender and class reflecting that divide. The racism xenophobia and hate that marred the election campaign needs to be stared down. The naked anger that fuelled Trump's campaign needs to be recognised and addressed. I have to disagree. The best way to heal the manufactured divide in race, gender, and ethnic groups is to toss out the Democrats that have been fanning the fire for decades to woo minority votes. We need to return to the ideal where race doesn't matter, sex doesn't matter, only performance and integrity matter. If you actually look at the actions and not the rampant accusations; the Clinton supporters were the ones fueling actual violence. The Trump campaign voiced concerns and intentions on controlling illegal actions. If one ethnic group (not race - ethnic group as in common cultural attitudes) is causing the majority of the problems; it needs to be addressed. We need to stop screaming "racist" when someone is trying to have a dialog about why one ethnic group is having problems far higher than their numbers should account for.

WickedsDesire -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:46:59 AM)
The land is fractured and i scatter it.

heavyblinker -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MercTech I have to disagree. The best way to heal the manufactured divide in race, gender, and ethnic groups is to toss out the Democrats that have been fanning the fire for decades to woo minority votes. We need to return to the ideal where race doesn't matter, sex doesn't matter, only performance and integrity matter. If you actually look at the actions and not the rampant accusations; the Clinton supporters were the ones fueling actual violence. The Trump campaign voiced concerns and intentions on controlling illegal actions. If one ethnic group (not race - ethnic group as in common cultural attitudes) is causing the majority of the problems; it needs to be addressed. We need to stop screaming "racist" when someone is trying to have a dialog about why one ethnic group is having problems far higher than their numbers should account for. Nobody has ever said it's racist to examine the problems facing a certain ethnic group. What's racist is when you use those problems as an excuse to exclude them from your society, say, by hunting them down and kicking them out, aggressively policing their communities, refusing them entry to your country or simply tolerating or in some cases actively supporting racist attitudes towards them.

bounty44 -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:47:48 AM)
part of merc's post touches on this: im a conservative leaning libertarian---I don't see the collectivist left as anyone I need to experience "healing" with. I see them as a social/political enemy to convert, or barring that, defeat.

heavyblinker -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:49:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 part of merc's post touches on this: im a conservative leaning libertarian---I don't see the collectivist left as anyone I need to experience "healing" with. I see them as a social/political enemy to convert, or barring that, defeat. And this is why the US is destined to fall apart.

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:50:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods Good luck getting a response to that: I'm still waiting for an explanation of how the use of the kanji alphabet in Japan isn't a Chinese cultural import. Probably, the Japanese Kanji alphabet, one of three they use, is a similar result to most of the rest of the world using the Roman Alphabet.

mnottertail -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:53:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Healing will be a great deal easier if the losing candidate concedes defeat gracefully, as tradition has long had it. Like Al Gore right? Or Jefferson and Adams? And let's not forget the election of Lincoln. sigh You are such a hatchet faced nutmeg dealer with neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman. Actually, Nixon did gracefully concede to Kennedy even though he could have done an Al Gore (sore/loserman). But he put the country ahead of himself. Yes, we have ample evidence of that with watergate.

tamaka -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:54:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 part of merc's post touches on this: im a conservative leaning libertarian---I don't see the collectivist left as anyone I need to experience "healing" with. I see them as a social/political enemy to convert, or barring that, defeat. If the left wasn't a hate group, they might have some valid points to consider. Their deep- rooted hate is a problem they have to address within themselves before others might want to work with them.

Nnanji -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 9:58:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker The US was always going to have problems after this election, but honestly, I think it's probably going to break apart now. In fact, I hope it does... because it does not deserve to have the influence it does on the world. Trump was always supposed to be a terrible joke, the right wingers trolling the system to see if they could get away with it... I honestly thought that Hillary would breeze through, and lose after 4 years to a GOP candidate with half a brain. But instead, we have this goddam nightmare. We have a guy who will get to the white house in January and not know what to do... whether or not he cares to learn is up in the air, but I can only imagine the sort of shit that is going to come out of his mouth in the next 4 years. Humiliating, painful shit that might even let his ignorant supporters know exactly what kind of mistake they've made. Trump is not a unifier in any sense of the word... he campaigned on hate, stupidity and ignorance. It will grow and grow and his 'policies' will do nothing but aggravate the divisions between classes, races, cultures, countries, intellectuals and anti-intellectuals, etc. He might even be able to distract people with enough scapegoating and hatred to win another term. I don't think I'm alone in saying that this election has completely destroyed what little faith I had in democracy and has certainly made me question western culture and its values. How could anything that is as inherently good as some people think produce such a terrible string of events? How could liberal democracy have failed so badly? The agonizing humiliation of watching this man pretend to be a respectable figure on a daily basis is more than my masochistic mind can bear. Knowing that there are people out there who can't tell the difference between Trump and someone who deserves to be there is too much to bear. There will be people who will tell me it isn't going to be so bad, but the reasons they give me will be too ignorant to bear. This is seriously drop-out-of-society levels of existential despair. Honestly, let's be really honest. The people causing riots at political events were leftists. Not once did you hear Hillary or Bernie tell them to stop. Trump didn't campaign on hate, stupidity and ignorance, Hillary, along with the MSM said he did so the ignorant accepted that twist. Obama had absolutely no credentials to be president, at the time of his first election he flat out said Hillary was incompetent and if Trump agreed, who can blame him. Not once did you hear Hillary complain that her operatives were providing her debate questions. You're projecting.

bounty44 -> RE: How will the US heal itself? (11/9/2016 10:00:07 AM)
i agree to some extent, and the left is indeed a bitter and hating filled lot. you only have to look here to see that. but on the whole, there are aspects of some social/political philosophies that are simply incompatible with others.

Page: << < prev 4 5 [6] 7 8 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.046875