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ORIGINAL: Greta75
...as they are minority in the country and how they can continue to hold majority vote.

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A couple guys in first class on a flight
From new York to Los Angeles,
Kinda making small talk killing time,
Flirting with the flight attendants,
Thirty thousand feet above, could be Oklahoma,
Just a bunch of square cornfields and wheat farms,
Man it all looks the same,
Miles and miles of back roads and highways,
Connecting little towns with funny names,
Who'd want to live down there in the middle of nowhere,

They've never drove through Indiana,
Met the men who plowed that earth,
Planted that seed, busted his ass for you and me,
Or caught a harvest moon in Kansas,
They'd understand why God made those fly over states,

I bet that mile long Santa Fe freight train engineer's seen it all
Just like that flatbed cowboy stacking US steel on a 3-day haul
Roads and rails under their feet
Yeah that sounds like a first class seat

On the plains of Oklahoma
Where they windshield sunset in your eyes
Like a watercolor painted sky

You'd think heaven's doors have opened
You'll understand why God made
Those fly over states

Take a ride across the badlands
Feel that freedom on your face
Breathe in all that open space
Meet a girl from Amarillo
You'll understand why God made
Why you'd want to plant your stakes
In those fly over states

Have you ever been through Indiana
On the plains of Oklahoma,
Take a ride,

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

I thought it would be interesting to take a look at the blog run by someone who many people here would recognize as having even a bigger hard-on for Hillary than my stalker.

this is very consistent with the past few posts ive made here:

(he appears to be talking about the futility in gathering the heretofore mentioned demographic, but look at the terms he uses to describe them)

the name of the thread is "fuck the white working class."

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...So fuck the white working class. We liberals have no outreach to do there that has any political import....Wasting time on the white working class trying to win their votes, in the end, as about as useful as outreach to Amazon jungle tribesmen. They’re both a bunch of primitive dipshits who aren’t gonna vote for us regardless, so. Offer them help because it’s the right thing to do, but obsessing about getting the votes of these primitive inbreds is about as useful as a bicycle for fish.

here's another calling trumps supporters "stormtrumpers"

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It appears that the Stormtrumpers are upset that the CEO of Grubhub sent out a sternly worded memo that the values of Donald Trump — hate, bigotry, xenophobia, and racism — are not the values of Grubhub, and that employees who have those values should resign. The Stormtrumpers have been dusting off their brown shirts and boldly stating that they’re going to boycott, BOYCOTT I say, Grubhub for their CEO’s audacity to disagree with their holy Savior’s message of hate, bigotry, xenophobia, and racism!

there's another post decrying the "ignorance" of those who live in rural areas:

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One thing that a lot of liberals don’t understand is “How could people in rural areas have such wrong ideas about Trump and Clinton?” I lived in a rural area for some years. One thing that rural areas lack is access to information. Internet access is slow or non-existent. There might be a weekly newspaper published in the county seat, but it is mostly advertisements for people’s services. If I want to know who to call to dig new field lines for my septic tank, I’ll get that out of the weekly newspaper (plus by talking to my neighbors, of course, which is how I actually found the guy to dig my field lines). But real news about what’s happening in the world? Nope...The question is how to remedy that, given the limited sources of information in rural areas — and worse yet, the lack of desire on the part of people in rural areas to learn about the outside world, given that they already think they know what everything outside their insular bubble is like.

and this nonsense:

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Basically, the deal is the Supreme Court. Most of the Democratic-appointed members of the Supreme Court are on their last legs, and the Republican-appointed members have shown that they are against civil rights for blacks, gays, women, or really, anybody who isn’t a rich white male American. The Democratic members are going to be replaced with more along the stamp of the current Republican-appointed members and is going to be ultra-right-wing for the next thirty years, at least. This court has already signalled that it doesn’t support the right for people of color to vote, basically what we’re going to see is a return to poll taxes and the Black Codes that basically make all people of color felons and disenfranchises them.

is it any wonder comrades you all didn't win when this is the way so many of you think?

lastly, that the election results were due to comey and putin:

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My congratulations to Vladimir Putin and James Comey for organizing the first-ever intelligence agency coup in American history. Let us just pray it is a bloodless one. But I doubt it will be, because the long knives generally come out after a coup as the winners of the coup exterminate anybody who they fear may overturn their coup. I expect that we will continue to see a “President” chosen by the intelligence agencies for the near future, however long that may be

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Liberals are still dealing with Hillary Clinton's election loss last week by calling Trump voters racist, bigoted and irredeemable monsters who have "white lashed" America.

But while celebrities like Lady Gaga, John Legend and Katy Perry are happy to engage in the hysteria and smears, comedian Jon Stewart is calling on progressives to back off of their stereotyping.

"The same country that elected Donald Trump elected Barack Obama," Stewart said. "I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric."

"Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans, and not afraid of Muslims, and not afraid of blacks," he continued. "They’re afraid of their insurance premiums."

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"Stop Calling Trump Voters Racist...Says Jon Stewart "

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Liberals are still dealing with Hillary Clinton's election loss last week by calling Trump voters racist, bigoted and irredeemable monsters who have "white lashed" America.

But while celebrities like Lady Gaga, John Legend and Katy Perry are happy to engage in the hysteria and smears, comedian Jon Stewart is calling on progressives to back off of their stereotyping.

"The same country that elected Donald Trump elected Barack Obama," Stewart said. "I thought Donald Trump disqualified himself at numerous points. But there is now this idea that anyone who voted for him has to be defined by the worst of his rhetoric."

"Like, there are guys in my neighborhood that I love, that I respect, that I think have incredible qualities who are not afraid of Mexicans, and not afraid of Muslims, and not afraid of blacks," he continued. "They’re afraid of their insurance premiums."

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/11/18/stop-calling-trump-voters-racistsays-jon-stewart-n2247610

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
"Stop Calling Trump Voters Racist...Says Jon Stewart "

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
"Stop Calling Trump Voters Racist...Says Jon Stewart "

It has been said before, but I'll say it anyways:

Not all people who voted for Trump are racist, but I am certain that all racists voted for Trump.

However, the rust belt win (which was the reason he won the election) wasn't about racism, it was about striking back at the globalists who have stolen their jobs (because they can't strike back at the machines who have stolen their jobs)... it was most certainly an oversight on Hillary's part, but it was also probably because Obama didn't do enough to help them and they lost faith in the Democrats. It doesn't matter if you're historically pro-union/pro-worker's rights if there are no jobs. These people don't want handouts or welfare, they want their dignity back.

The thing is, they're going to find out really soon that Trump can't help them either, and will in fact make it worse... so I really have to wonder what comes next for them. It's actually really sad-- they turned to a fascist, apparently oblivious to the fact that he's a complete fraud.

Maybe the public works programs Trump is promising will help them... I mean, he is taking a page directly from the Nazi handbook with that, and it did a lot of good in terms of giving people their dignity back. But the crippling effect his economic policies will have on the rest of country seem destined to make it really short-lived... unless he causes a total collapse of the global economy (not out of the question), then China is simply going to rise up to fill the void and the US will decline even faster than it's already declining.

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ORIGINAL: tamaka
What makes you think China will rise up if the global economy collapses?

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
"Stop Calling Trump Voters Racist...Says Jon Stewart "

It has been said before, but I'll say it anyways:

Not all people who voted for Trump are racist, but I am certain that all racists voted for Trump.

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With the exception of President Obama’s re-election in 2012, Democrats have been on a severe losing streak since 2010. It couldn’t happen to a nicer, more deserving group of people.

Americans had a large plate full of unfettered progressive rule in 2009 and 2010, and they did not like it. Ever since, they’ve been rejecting Democrats like a transplant patient rejects a bad kidney.

With the exception of Barack Obama.

The cult of personality surrounding the president is disturbing, but less so over time as it became clear it was not contagious. Every candidate he personally pushed for went down in flames. Every time he put himself on the line for someone or something other than himself, he lost.

One shining example came when Martha Coakley lost to Scott Brown, a Republican in the blue state of San Francisco, er, Massachusetts, in a crucial Senate race. The only issue was the president’s health care bill, and it lost.

He is personally popular, but what he stands for is ants at a picnic. People have separated the two with him but married the policies and the party for everyone else.

Barack Obama is the best thing to ever happen to Republican get-out-the-vote efforts. The GOP realizes this, but Democrats are in denial.

You hear it all the time – MSNBC and CNN hosts and pundits can’t fathom the concept of their policies being unwanted any more than they can accept that they don’t work. Their losses have to be caused by other factors.

Since the election, Democrats have blamed everything but a comet, a plague and the death of Prince for the GOP winning the White House and holding Congress. A couple more appearances by Howard Dean on TV, and you probably will start to hear about comets and plagues.

That’s the problem for Democrats – they don’t like looking into the mirror any more than the American people like looking at them.

I get that one of the stages of grief is denial. In fact, it’s the first one. Since having their posteriors handed to them in 2010, Democrats haven’t moved past stage one.

They blame the voters for being duped, self-destructive, even stupid. This year, with the rejection of Hillary Clinton, we’ve gone from being a racist nation that twice elected a black man to being a racist and sexist nation for twice not electing a woman – and for electing Trump. Oddly, the black man who beat her the first time avoided the sexist label because the left manufactures the labels. In the ultimate fit of irony, leftists even have taken to blaming media bias for their losses.

Missing from Democrats’ blame game is anything having to do with Democrats. It’s not that Clinton was a horrible candidate running to continue unpopular policies that have brought about economic stagnation; it’s that all of us who voted against her are a bunch of misogynists.

It’s not that Hillary’s corruptions were something the people did not want to reward; it was the media for reporting on them too much. It wasn’t Clinton’s decision to obfuscate disclosure rules and put national security at risk for reasons no one can believably explain; it was a letter the FBI Director sent so he wouldn’t have been found to contradict his sworn congressional testimony.

It’s always something else, never Democrats.

The last week and a half have demonstrated the power of denial and just how addicted the left is to it. They’re being rejected at every level of government. In many cases, Republicans won simply because they were running against Democrats.

Given the names being floated to head the Democratic National Committee – the rehash of Dean and radical Congressman Keith Ellison of Minnesota – Democrats have shown they will not take that long, sobering look into a reflective surface anytime soon. They have learned nothing from the Obama years. Good....

[the author goes on to excoriate the republicans to an extent also]

People want their liberty protected from government as much as they want it protected by government. It remains to be seen which way President-Elect Trump will slide on the scale, but Democrats and Republicans already have started to slide into their old habits.

If you thought electing Trump and retaining Republican control of government was the end of the fight, sorry to wake you; Democrats are out there ready to strike, and Republicans are ready to be Republicans again. This election was a game-changer with important lessons to learn. And there’s every reason to believe elected officials from both parties didn’t learn a damn thing.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: bounty44
"Stop Calling Trump Voters Racist...Says Jon Stewart "

It has been said before, but I'll say it anyways:

Not all people who voted for Trump are racist, but I am certain that all racists voted for Trump.

However, the rust belt win (which was the reason he won the election) wasn't about racism, it was about striking back at the globalists who have stolen their jobs (because they can't strike back at the machines who have stolen their jobs)... it was most certainly an oversight on Hillary's part, but it was also probably because Obama didn't do enough to help them and they lost faith in the Democrats. It doesn't matter if you're historically pro-union/pro-worker's rights if there are no jobs. These people don't want handouts or welfare, they want their dignity back.

The thing is, they're going to find out really soon that Trump can't help them either, and will in fact make it worse... so I really have to wonder what comes next for them. It's actually really sad-- they turned to a fascist, apparently oblivious to the fact that he's a complete fraud.

Maybe the public works programs Trump is promising will help them... I mean, he is taking a page directly from the Nazi handbook with that, and it did a lot of good in terms of giving the German people their dignity back. Bannon will stoke up the nationalism for them... but the crippling effect Trump's economic policies will have on the rest of country seem destined to make it really short-lived... where is he going to get the money to fund public works if the US is isolating itself from the rest of the world?

Old people like to think of America as it was immediately after WWII-- when it had a lot of untouched resources, Europe was in ruins, and the rest of the world needed to be rebuilt. That gave the US a huge economic advantage, but last time I checked there hasn't been a global war recently, so I have no idea why other countries would put up with Trump's bullshit when they can just turn to some other country and get everything they need more cheaply.

China is already looking to rise up to fill the void and the US will decline even faster than it's already declining.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

America is like seriously, just two countries. But the problem is, the left leaning population is higher than the right leaning population. The right also needs to seriously look to the future, as they are minority in the country and how they can continue to hold majority vote.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

America is like seriously, just two countries. But the problem is, the left leaning population is higher than the right leaning population. The right also needs to seriously look to the future, as they are minority in the country and how they can continue to hold majority vote.

What the left forgets, and you may not have considered, is that most children vote left to get free stuff. But, as they grow up and get tired of the they've worked for being taken from them, they mostly always change to being right. So the left has instituted a system whereby they eventually force their adherents away.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

America is like seriously, just two countries. But the problem is, the left leaning population is higher than the right leaning population. The right also needs to seriously look to the future, as they are minority in the country and how they can continue to hold majority vote.

What the left forgets, and you may not have considered, is that most children vote left to get free stuff. But, as they grow up and get tired of the they've worked for being taken from them, they mostly always change to being right. So the left has instituted a system whereby they eventually force their adherents away.

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Rolling Stone has finally published a post-election interview they did with President Obama the day after Donald Trump's presidential victory. In his sit-down, Obama offered no self-accountability for the Democrats' whopping loss in just about every level of government. He (briefly) acknowledged that Democrats did not effectively campaign in enough working class environments. Yet, he then quickly blamed the defeat on one of his favorite targets: Fox News.

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"Part of it is Fox News in every bar and restaurant in big chunks of the country [oh no comrades, fox news!], but part of it is also Democrats not working at a grassroots level, being in there, showing up, making arguments. That part of the critique of the Democratic Party is accurate. We spend a lot of time focused on international policy and national policy and less time being on the ground. And when we’re on the ground, we do well."

Obama has taken numerous swipes at Fox News throughout his presidency, noting that if he watched the network regularly, he wouldn't want to vote for himself either.

Instead of blaming the media, perhaps the president should take a harder look at his party's loss. His "progressive" economic policies have done little to boost the American working class. Working class voters don't want Big Government, they want individual empowerment.

Don't bother searching for any kind of self-reflection from President Obama.