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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

California has the 5th, or 6th biggest economy the world...fek

I wonder how large their economy will be if the US Govt pulled out and cancelled it's defense contracts

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Well, the issue would be that the many of the bases in San Diego are the training bases...so they would either closed or be shrunk drastically. Camp Pendelton (the largest in the world), MCAS Miramar, MCRD, and Naval Base Coronado (home to several SEAL teams and BUDS training).

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ORIGINAL: LadyDemura

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Well, the issue would be that the many of the bases in San Diego are the training bases...so they would either closed or be shrunk drastically. Camp Pendelton (the largest in the world), MCAS Miramar, MCRD, and Naval Base Coronado (home to several SEAL teams and BUDS training).

Is there a reason Camp Pendleton needs to stay this big? Or even exist? That area is prime beachfront real estate and prevents LA/OC and San Diego from becoming the megacity it should be. CalExit or not, I want it to be gone, or at least seriously downsized and the rest turned residential, preferably high rise condos that pay lots of property tax.

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ORIGINAL: LadyDemura

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Well, the issue would be that the many of the bases in San Diego are the training bases...so they would either closed or be shrunk drastically. Camp Pendelton (the largest in the world), MCAS Miramar, MCRD, and Naval Base Coronado (home to several SEAL teams and BUDS training).

Is there a reason Camp Pendleton needs to stay this big? Or even exist?

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That area is prime beachfront real estate and prevents LA/OC and San Diego from becoming the megacity it should be.

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ORIGINAL: LadyDemura

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Well, the issue would be that the many of the bases in San Diego are the training bases...so they would either closed or be shrunk drastically. Camp Pendelton (the largest in the world), MCAS Miramar, MCRD, and Naval Base Coronado (home to several SEAL teams and BUDS training).

Is there a reason Camp Pendleton needs to stay this big? Or even exist? That area is prime beachfront real estate and prevents LA/OC and San Diego from becoming the megacity it should be. CalExit or not, I want it to be gone, or at least seriously downsized and the rest turned residential, preferably high rise condos that pay lots of property tax.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Do you want it moved, or is it that any cut to the military is a good thing.?
And BTW I was paying attention to this stuff since well before you were born.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
The Major of LA isn't going to give up power to someone from San Diego and the cost of food and water from outside the new country will make it too expensive to live there except for the elite who want this thing.

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ORIGINAL: LadyDemura

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Do you want it moved, or is it that any cut to the military is a good thing.?
And BTW I was paying attention to this stuff since well before you were born.

That land is just too valuable to be mostly unused. I can see that a small part of the beachfront might be useful for training for a battle in a similar beach, but why does it have to be that big? There's only a small portion of the California coastline that has water warm enough for it to be a tourist area, and most of it is mostly single family homes which isn't changing anytime soon. If was turned into a high rise beach condo and hotel area, it would bring in a lot of tax dollars.

No, I don't want an untrained military, and I wouldn't think closing Camp Pendleton wouldn't really cut the military budget by much anyway. I was meaning megacity to be a continuous urban area from LA to SD, not necessarily a single city government.

Resources are less of a problem than people make them out to be. If they just banned grass lawns in all of Southern California, there would be much less of a water problem. I'm not sure if it would be in a CalExit, though it seems like reservoirs should be built in the parts of the state where there is rain, and there would have to be even more conservation.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Southern California is a desert. It is kept viable for millions of people only be extraordinary effort. With the huge amount of gang violence; a separation of California from the rest of the country; SoCal would be a ticking timebomb for mass destruction. With the internal friction between SoCal and the rest of the state; California seceding would lead to NorCal seceding from California in a heartbeat. Shut down four of the six water pipes and the SoCal die off would begin in a day or two.

Pendleton, El Toro, and 29 Palms constitute the major elements of west coast training and logistics for the military. Why not close Pendleton and relocate the commands there to new buildings built on the Hanford Site in eastern Washington? The Federal Government already owns 734 square miles there. But, Hanford is NOT on or near major transportation hubs as there are in SoCal. Remember, the interstates were built in part to provide for the ability to rapidly transport troops and materiel. Yep, I'm sure our servicemen will be really happy about leaving San Diego and moving to rural Washington. Gad, what that would do to the Tri-Cities school system and infrastructure is cringe worthy.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Your world view is amazing. There are many of us who find San Angelous or mega city 3 as a bad thing.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, Oakland in particular is a major shipping port.

But as OG noted earlier, CA's water comes from other states . . .