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Edwird -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/19/2016 1:34:14 AM)
You wouldn't survive half the day in my little town, I can tell you that. OK, it's directly adjoining a big city, within large metro area, but ... Damn, girl, why don't you just go out and enjoy the world as it is? I do not 'favor' any of this 'multiculturalism,' such term as from the mentally irrelevant who can't stop patting their own heads for effort incoming up with (oh please, once they got ahold of that 'snowflake' thing ... ). No, it's just how things evolved where I live, no planning, no 'program,' no 'agenda' about it. I didn't figure out til 10 years after the fact the putative 'cultural irony' of grabbing a felafel sandwich or plate from the nearest middle east deli and taking it to an outdoor concert to eat it while watching a Klezmer (Ashkenazi Jewish folk music) band do their thing, with the symphony orchestra bass player who later went to some (Christian) ministry school as head of the band. I don't think any of us went about it with any thought other than doing what we wanted to do at the moment. I liked felafel sandwiches (w/ sides of tabouli and hummos), had been turned onto them years before, and I wanted to see what one of my music teachers (the bass player) was doing outside of the orchestra, and I was entertained and well fed, did the same thing the whole summer, -end of story-. But nooo ... that can't be it. There must have been some 'agenda' about it, according to the mentally irrelevant. In any case, fear isn't your friend, tamaka, that is definitely not something you would want to 'embrace.'

Edwird -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/19/2016 1:52:31 AM)
PS My life involves primarily two different cities, about 240 miles apart. In the current post, I was mainly talking about the other one, where I spent more time, though my current location (where I was actually born) is even more 'diverse.'

tamaka -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/19/2016 7:01:34 AM)
I don't have a problem with other cultures. I lived in Vegas for 5 years... as a white person i felt like the minority there. It took some getting used to but i enjoyed it. I really did. My Master is Jewish. I've had several friends who were Mexican, black, Philapino, etc. My point wa i don't care who/what religion, race, gender, etc walked into a public place with their face fully covered... i wouldn't feel safe and i would leave.

notxofast -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/19/2016 8:39:08 AM)
If a woman wearing a burqa weirds you out, than anyone wearing a fairly large overcoat and scarf should do the same. Meanwhile - there is a HUGE difference between the burqa and the hijab - which is a simple head scarf. Islam is not the only religion with factions that have strict dress codes. Many conservative Christians and Jews cover their heads - especially when going to church or synagogue. The principle is exactly the same.

LadyDemura -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:26:00 PM)
The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America...

Awareness -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:36:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: notxofast If a woman wearing a burqa weirds you out, than anyone wearing a fairly large overcoat and scarf should do the same. People wearing large overcoats and a scarf generally don't belong to violent, homophobic death cults. People wearing a burqa definitely do.

Awareness -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:38:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit.

LadyDemura -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:49:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit. The thing is, the preciousness of the 2nd Amendment goes if any of the other Bill of Rights amendments go... No fan of Scientology or Islam either really, but if we are going to pretend that we still have a Bill of Rights, then burquas and Hijabs can't be illegal in this country...

tamaka -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:51:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit. The thing is, the preciousness of the 2nd Amendment goes if any of the other Bill of Rights amendments go... No fan of Scientology or Islam either really, but if we are going to pretend that we still have a Bill of Rights, then burquas and Hijabs can't be illegal in this country... Well perhaps the term 'Religion' needs to be defined.

LadyDemura -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 9:58:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit. The thing is, the preciousness of the 2nd Amendment goes if any of the other Bill of Rights amendments go... No fan of Scientology or Islam either really, but if we are going to pretend that we still have a Bill of Rights, then burquas and Hijabs can't be illegal in this country... Well perhaps the term 'Religion' needs to be defined. How is that going to work when we are dependant on Saudi Oil? Scientologists, I suppose, could be went after, though they have quite a number of big name spokes people...

Awareness -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/20/2016 10:00:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit. The thing is, the preciousness of the 2nd Amendment goes if any of the other Bill of Rights amendments go... No fan of Scientology or Islam either really, but if we are going to pretend that we still have a Bill of Rights, then burquas and Hijabs can't be illegal in this country... They're not illegal - what you have here is a representative from a fundamentally intolerant creed BITCHING about the possibility of personal (IE: non-state sanctioned) intolerance as opposed to the state-sanctioned intolerance of the misbegotten society she no doubt pines for. Are we supposed to tolerate her intolerance?

LadyDemura -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/21/2016 8:18:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: LadyDemura The First Amendment only applies to Christian Religions of course...Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Expression don't apply to those that don't agree with the ruling party in the new Great America... You're a fucking idiot. Nobody's been able to shut those freaks at the Church of Scientology up PRECISELY because of the first amendment - and scientology is an amoral fucking con. So that thesis you've pulled out of your ass? It's shit. The thing is, the preciousness of the 2nd Amendment goes if any of the other Bill of Rights amendments go... No fan of Scientology or Islam either really, but if we are going to pretend that we still have a Bill of Rights, then burquas and Hijabs can't be illegal in this country... They're not illegal - what you have here is a representative from a fundamentally intolerant creed BITCHING about the possibility of personal (IE: non-state sanctioned) intolerance as opposed to the state-sanctioned intolerance of the misbegotten society she no doubt pines for. Are we supposed to tolerate her intolerance? They tried to ban them in Georgia recently. Didn't go over well. They have banned them to some degree in France also, seems to have resulted in more terrorism there, they seem get offended and pissed off easily. Why exactly is it a good idea to offend them? The right doesn't want to prevent things like San Bernardino with strict gun laws, and I don't know anything can be done to prevent something like what happened in Nice, France(maybe require all vehicles to be driverless, though I don't know the technology is even quite there yet)...

Greta75 -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/21/2016 9:55:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Take someone's advice to you in another thread and learn to read rather than rely on biased rants for your information. The author is talking about wearing a scarf on her head. That's it. Nothing covering her face. No big black sheet coveting her head to toe. A freakin' scarf. IF you think she is just defending a freaking scarf on her head. THAT is not her message. She wants Muslim wear, the full Afghanistan gear, the full Saudi Arabia gear, ALL Islamic female wear to receive love. I mean if you think she is just defending her scarf, then she is gonna explain to millions of Muslim woman, why she thinks it is okay to wear her scarf, WHICH is also not proper in accordance to the Quran. But she wants to be against other types of Muslim women wear who is more accurate in accordance to the Quran. Ya know, the Quran says that women are not allowed to wear anything to draw attention to themselves. Her bright colours are already tresspassing her religion. I think she is over all just one big disgusting hypocrite! So I have to assume, Just because she chose her style to be just a scarf, DOESN'T mean she is not fighting for love and acceptance for all kinds of Islamic Female Fashion in her article. She comes into the US, and decides that, she WANTS to be able to wear her Islamic fashion without getting criticised for it, or having people being against it! Why? Why should people love her Islamic fashion? Why should anybody love Islamic Female Fashion? When Islamic countries don't allow their Muslim Females to dress in other culture fashion? And Islam doesn't allow their women to dress in non-Islamic fashion. So why this double standard? She supports a religion that discriminates AGAINST all other culture fashion but want acceptance for her shitty Religious fashion? Firstly she exaggerates about AS IF this country condone attacking women who dress in Islamic wear, which is a BIG LIE. Since the laws are on her side. You know what is condone? When she is put to jail for wearing Islamic fashion, that's what condone is. No such thing is happening in the US. But many such things is happening in Islamic countries. My point is, she is a fucking hypocrite! I hate Muslim women who cries about not getting love and acceptance for their attire, because they support a religion who controls freedom of attire! Which is totally AGAINST the freedom for female to wear whatever they want! She can't demand freedom when she is AGAINST freedom! I remembered I said, I laugh when a staunch Muslim mother actually had no choice but to allow her daughter to leave her house without covering up in full burka! Because she believes her daughter would be attack in America for wearing one now lmao! And like, I am thinking, her daughter must be secretly rejoicing!!! She probably wants to wear the latest fashions and her mom probably beat the crap out of her for even thinking of wanting to. And then force her to hide her bruises in that disgusting black garb. I am gonna condemn the burka, hijab UNTIL ALL Islamic countries and ISLAM change their laws to allow women to wear what they want! A fashion that represents female slavery SHOULD NEVER be applauded!

Termyn8or -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/21/2016 11:00:10 PM)
Maybe some of them wear it for fear of getting raped. T^T

vincentML -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 6:01:08 AM)
quote: I am gonna condemn the burka, hijab UNTIL ALL Islamic countries and ISLAM change their laws to allow women to wear what they want! Yeah, right, Greta, all Islamic countries are tuned to your rambling tirades. [8\|]

Wayward5oul -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 6:06:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Take someone's advice to you in another thread and learn to read rather than rely on biased rants for your information. The author is talking about wearing a scarf on her head. That's it. Nothing covering her face. No big black sheet coveting her head to toe. A freakin' scarf. IF you think she is just defending a freaking scarf on her head. THAT is not her message. She wants Muslim wear, the full Afghanistan gear, the full Saudi Arabia gear, ALL Islamic female wear to receive love. I mean if you think she is just defending her scarf, then she is gonna explain to millions of Muslim woman, why she thinks it is okay to wear her scarf, WHICH is also not proper in accordance to the Quran. But she wants to be against other types of Muslim women wear who is more accurate in accordance to the Quran. Ya know, the Quran says that women are not allowed to wear anything to draw attention to themselves. Her bright colours are already tresspassing her religion. I think she is over all just one big disgusting hypocrite! So I have to assume, Just because she chose her style to be just a scarf, DOESN'T mean she is not fighting for love and acceptance for all kinds of Islamic Female Fashion in her article. She comes into the US, and decides that, she WANTS to be able to wear her Islamic fashion without getting criticised for it, or having people being against it! Why? Why should people love her Islamic fashion? Why should anybody love Islamic Female Fashion? When Islamic countries don't allow their Muslim Females to dress in other culture fashion? And Islam doesn't allow their women to dress in non-Islamic fashion. So why this double standard? She supports a religion that discriminates AGAINST all other culture fashion but want acceptance for her shitty Religious fashion? Firstly she exaggerates about AS IF this country condone attacking women who dress in Islamic wear, which is a BIG LIE. Since the laws are on her side. You know what is condone? When she is put to jail for wearing Islamic fashion, that's what condone is. No such thing is happening in the US. But many such things is happening in Islamic countries. My point is, she is a fucking hypocrite! I hate Muslim women who cries about not getting love and acceptance for their attire, because they support a religion who controls freedom of attire! Which is totally AGAINST the freedom for female to wear whatever they want! She can't demand freedom when she is AGAINST freedom! I remembered I said, I laugh when a staunch Muslim mother actually had no choice but to allow her daughter to leave her house without covering up in full burka! Because she believes her daughter would be attack in America for wearing one now lmao! And like, I am thinking, her daughter must be secretly rejoicing!!! She probably wants to wear the latest fashions and her mom probably beat the crap out of her for even thinking of wanting to. And then force her to hide her bruises in that disgusting black garb. I am gonna condemn the burka, hijab UNTIL ALL Islamic countries and ISLAM change their laws to allow women to wear what they want! A fashion that represents female slavery SHOULD NEVER be applauded! You assume a lot that is not even hinted at in the article. You ignore things that are directly stated in the article. Your own hatred gets in the way of facts.

Baldrick -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 6:18:38 AM)
Are you going to tell nuns they're not allowed to wear habits? Jewish women not allowed to wear head scarves? And what about the Christian women who wear head coverings too? Going to demand that the Mennonite and the Amish women remove their hats, when it is required by their religious laws too? Get a life

Politesub53 -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 12:31:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer Hell's bells ... FD, I don't know where to begin. I don't even know if I should begin. It's late, anyway, and I've got to hit the hay. You began at the right spot Peon, fuck his bullshit views and get some sleep...... A sound idea me old china.

Politesub53 -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 12:33:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Take someone's advice to you in another thread and learn to read rather than rely on biased rants for your information. The author is talking about wearing a scarf on her head. That's it. Nothing covering her face. No big black sheet coveting her head to toe. A freakin' scarf. IF you think she is just defending a freaking scarf on her head. THAT is not her message. She wants Muslim wear, the full Afghanistan gear, the full Saudi Arabia gear, ALL Islamic female wear to receive love. I mean if you think she is just defending her scarf, then she is gonna explain to millions of Muslim woman, why she thinks it is okay to wear her scarf, WHICH is also not proper in accordance to the Quran. But she wants to be against other types of Muslim women wear who is more accurate in accordance to the Quran. Ya know, the Quran says that women are not allowed to wear anything to draw attention to themselves. Her bright colours are already tresspassing her religion. I think she is over all just one big disgusting hypocrite! So I have to assume, Just because she chose her style to be just a scarf, DOESN'T mean she is not fighting for love and acceptance for all kinds of Islamic Female Fashion in her article. She comes into the US, and decides that, she WANTS to be able to wear her Islamic fashion without getting criticised for it, or having people being against it! Why? Why should people love her Islamic fashion? Why should anybody love Islamic Female Fashion? When Islamic countries don't allow their Muslim Females to dress in other culture fashion? And Islam doesn't allow their women to dress in non-Islamic fashion. So why this double standard? She supports a religion that discriminates AGAINST all other culture fashion but want acceptance for her shitty Religious fashion? Firstly she exaggerates about AS IF this country condone attacking women who dress in Islamic wear, which is a BIG LIE. Since the laws are on her side. You know what is condone? When she is put to jail for wearing Islamic fashion, that's what condone is. No such thing is happening in the US. But many such things is happening in Islamic countries. My point is, she is a fucking hypocrite! I hate Muslim women who cries about not getting love and acceptance for their attire, because they support a religion who controls freedom of attire! Which is totally AGAINST the freedom for female to wear whatever they want! She can't demand freedom when she is AGAINST freedom! I remembered I said, I laugh when a staunch Muslim mother actually had no choice but to allow her daughter to leave her house without covering up in full burka! Because she believes her daughter would be attack in America for wearing one now lmao! And like, I am thinking, her daughter must be secretly rejoicing!!! She probably wants to wear the latest fashions and her mom probably beat the crap out of her for even thinking of wanting to. And then force her to hide her bruises in that disgusting black garb. I am gonna condemn the burka, hijab UNTIL ALL Islamic countries and ISLAM change their laws to allow women to wear what they want! A fashion that represents female slavery SHOULD NEVER be applauded! She has the right to wear what she likes, just as you have the right to continue being a fuckwit. [8\|]

tamaka -> RE: American Muslim Woman Crying about her right to wear Hijab (11/22/2016 1:37:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul Take someone's advice to you in another thread and learn to read rather than rely on biased rants for your information. The author is talking about wearing a scarf on her head. That's it. Nothing covering her face. No big black sheet coveting her head to toe. A freakin' scarf. IF you think she is just defending a freaking scarf on her head. THAT is not her message. She wants Muslim wear, the full Afghanistan gear, the full Saudi Arabia gear, ALL Islamic female wear to receive love. I mean if you think she is just defending her scarf, then she is gonna explain to millions of Muslim woman, why she thinks it is okay to wear her scarf, WHICH is also not proper in accordance to the Quran. But she wants to be against other types of Muslim women wear who is more accurate in accordance to the Quran. Ya know, the Quran says that women are not allowed to wear anything to draw attention to themselves. Her bright colours are already tresspassing her religion. I think she is over all just one big disgusting hypocrite! So I have to assume, Just because she chose her style to be just a scarf, DOESN'T mean she is not fighting for love and acceptance for all kinds of Islamic Female Fashion in her article. She comes into the US, and decides that, she WANTS to be able to wear her Islamic fashion without getting criticised for it, or having people being against it! Why? Why should people love her Islamic fashion? Why should anybody love Islamic Female Fashion? When Islamic countries don't allow their Muslim Females to dress in other culture fashion? And Islam doesn't allow their women to dress in non-Islamic fashion. So why this double standard? She supports a religion that discriminates AGAINST all other culture fashion but want acceptance for her shitty Religious fashion? Firstly she exaggerates about AS IF this country condone attacking women who dress in Islamic wear, which is a BIG LIE. Since the laws are on her side. You know what is condone? When she is put to jail for wearing Islamic fashion, that's what condone is. No such thing is happening in the US. But many such things is happening in Islamic countries. My point is, she is a fucking hypocrite! I hate Muslim women who cries about not getting love and acceptance for their attire, because they support a religion who controls freedom of attire! Which is totally AGAINST the freedom for female to wear whatever they want! She can't demand freedom when she is AGAINST freedom! I remembered I said, I laugh when a staunch Muslim mother actually had no choice but to allow her daughter to leave her house without covering up in full burka! Because she believes her daughter would be attack in America for wearing one now lmao! And like, I am thinking, her daughter must be secretly rejoicing!!! She probably wants to wear the latest fashions and her mom probably beat the crap out of her for even thinking of wanting to. And then force her to hide her bruises in that disgusting black garb. I am gonna condemn the burka, hijab UNTIL ALL Islamic countries and ISLAM change their laws to allow women to wear what they want! A fashion that represents female slavery SHOULD NEVER be applauded! She has the right to wear what she likes, just as you have the right to continue being a fuckwit. [8\|] I think that God wants us to be nude, according to the Bible. In Genesis God was pretty pissed that Adam and Eve tried to hide themselves after Satan got to them. I think God wants me to be nude and not ashamed of myself... maybe i should go nude grocery shopping tomorrow and see what happens.

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