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Lucylastic -> RE: "Mass shooting" at Ohio St.leads to calls for tighter gun control. (12/3/2016 11:35:33 AM)
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And without gangs/drugs/mental health issues in Canada and the UK, the murder numbers would drop heavily too.
And I've read (but not absolutely verified) that if you took out a few US cities with the highest gun violence and strict gun laws, our gun violence rate is not high.
There are gang wars, or turf wars going on between rivaling gangs. If their stock in trade was legal and available at the local drugstore they would have nothing to fight about. Their brothers and cousins went to prison for decades bringing in product, they'll be damned is they aren't going to be able to sell it.
And it ain't just the Bloods and the Crips, there are thousands of gangs now, each pushing for their own hegemony in the market. There is a ton of money involved and money is why the US government kills and that is what they have learned, to be ruthless. They learned in the school playgrounds from bullies, they learned from the government using force irresponsibly, they learned from business using oney to buy the government to favor them.
What the fuck do you think they are going to do ?
There are still some neighborhoods where you have to "wear colors" just to walk down the street unaccosted. It was a big thing back in the 1970s when their Parent grew up, not so much anymore. If I go to one of those places it is to cop. Get some weed. They're not going to fuck with me, I am a customer.
And with all this gun violence, you haven't heard of any drivebys lately huh. Know why ? Bullets cost money. They want a otherfucker dead they want THAT motherfucker dead. The rest of the family and neighborhood did nothing to them.
Even what people mistakenly call the "mafia" does not threaten family usually. But if your Daddy was a terrorist Obama will send a drone for you.
There is no mafia, but if there was I would rather deal with them than the government. And yes, I am "made". Two fucking words in court did that for me. But there is no mafia, it is just known that I know when to keep y mouth shut.
The government wants to take away guns. The supposed mafia wants to give out guns. Who is your friend ? If I go to a friend who has alot of guns and ask to borrow one I can get it. I would not ask unless there was a bad problem, and I don't make bad problems. But go to the government and ask, they'll laugh at you.
There was a group, they might still exist but I haven't heard about them lately who were goping out and giving guns to low income, mostly elderly people who were still viable enough to use them and passed a background check. New York said it would not be allowed but they can go fuck themselves. If I EVER wake up in New york I WANT to be dead right then and there. Fucking cesspool. Some people like it but the reason is beyond me.
But, my car had a flat tire, so we need more gun control. That is no stupider than the asshole who spawned the OP to post this and create this thread. The lightbulb burned out on the motion sensor light on the garage, we need more gun control.
There is a rabid dog eating people in the neighborhood, we need more gun control.
People got their mantras. A republican gets elected, it is because of racists. Someone fucks up or falls down it is because of alcohol or drugs. Always the same shit when there are all kids of other reasons. We don't have jobs because of republicans. Ask fucking Germany about that, THEY don't have enough jobs. Ask England why they voted for Brexit, they must be racist. Sure, every country wants another country to open up their prisons and send them right ? You think they are sending doctors and engineers ? Fuck no, they are sending thieves, rapists and murderers.
Trump wants to cut that off, YOU take them.
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what does that have to do with what I said... I said nothing about guns.
I was simply pointing out that most murders in the UK and Canada are influenced by gangs, drugs and mentally ill people or a mix. And if you took those numbers out of the UK and canadian murder counts like Bama suggested for the US, the US would still be fucking higher.
For example, nothing to do with the US, but when Brevik murdered all those people in norway, it pushed their murder rate to 2.2 per 100,000 population
There were a total of 111 murders in Norway in 2011.
If he had been an american(for example) he would be discounted(by Bama) because he was a fucking loony and there goes 77 deaths being discounted for mental health reasons.
Norways murder rate since 2011, has since dropped. to 0.6, whose actual figures are between 29-34 deaths per year.
Gang violence happens in the UK AND canada.
from wiki....
With regards to street gangs the cities identified as having the most serious gang problems, which also accounted for 65% of firearm homicides in England and Wales, were London, Birmingham, Manchester and Liverpool. Glasgow in Scotland also has a historical gang culture with the city having 6 times as many teenage gangs as London, which has ten times the population, per capita.
65 % of firearms homicides, so if we take out 65 % of the crime numbers, thats a huge dent in gun homicides, let alone homicide
In canada
In 2013, Vancouver recorded the most gang-related homicides, with 18 slayings. Stats Can ranked Montreal next with 16 victims, and there were 14 in Toronto, four in Winnipeg and three in Edmonton.
Canadian police services reported 505 homicides in 2013, 57 of them gang related.( and thats just 5 cities) so theres 57 less deaths because of gangs....it reduces overall murder stats.
Im not going to do the work on drugs or mental health murders, but I am pointing out the totally bogus bullshit claim about "what if" the US could remove gangs drugs and mental health from the murder numbers. without doing the same with Canuck and UK crime figures.
facts not bullshit.
I used to like you.
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Yeah the feeling is mutual.
I notice that you ignored the information. Again.
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