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The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/6/2016 5:48:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship, It Has Blinded Us to the Real Danger: Radical Islam

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In a lot of cases when it comes to the left, they all the sudden see no evil when muslims do something evil. Like the silence from the left/feminists over muslim rapes.
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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/6/2016 6:56:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		and what have you done about muslim rapes?/
Or australian rapes, or american rapes, or any kind of rape by any religion?
you keep spouting off about silence, yet, you have nothing to constructive to add.

There are many organisations out there, that are trying things out, that you know nothing about them is your own sad contempt for rape victims.


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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/6/2016 7:38:32 PM   
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I believe the American Government really created and then promoted modern Islamic extremism and terrorism in the 1970s, specially as a reaction to Russia invading Afghanistan. We funded them, gave them weapons, trained them and now they are using it against us.

They call what we have done in the Middle East and other Muslim countries Christian Extremism. Where we send troops to places of the world we have no business interfering in, killing 10s of thousands of them, overthrowing what are obviously bad governments but then installing a constitution based on Judeo Christian beliefs. The United States is responsible for killing people almost on a daily basis. We have military bases, fund governments in these countries that are more friendly to our desires and yet we as a country continue to say that Muslim extremism is the cause for us being in places we shouldn't be.

I think perhaps if Muslims invaded the United States, overthrew our government, killed 10s of thousands of civilians, fired depleted uranium rounds into our most densely populated cities, funded, supported and encouraged governments that are not friendly to their own people, tortured and imprisoned without due process our citizens, installed military bases, flew drones over our houses and murdered indiscriminately innocent civilians, children, and we were forced to live under a constant threat of death, we might respond in a very similar manor as those in the Middle East have.

I have been fortunate to have traveled all over the world. No matter where you find yourself in the world, you will always find some element that believes their religion or belief system is more important than others, and who are also willing to murder and kill for their beliefs. But for the most part, and including the Middle East, people, civilians, just want what we all want. To live in peace without living with the threat of constant death. To own a house and perhaps land. To provide a safe and nurturing environment for their family and children, to have food, shelter, water and to be happy. It doesn't take much at all, and yet we wonder why we have such a horrible reputation and why we as a country, and we being the United States, when we take from others whatever we want to improve our own lives at the cost of theirs being less than it should.

I don't agree with any type of extremism, Christian, Muslim, Jewish or any of the other multiple beliefs that exist. But I can understand why someone would be angry when you invade their country, ruin their economy, trash their cities, dictate how their life should be, kill their family, their children, destroy their home and everything they have worked their life to earn. I can understand that when a human being has everything taken from them by another human being to the point they have nothing left to loose, why they might decide as a going away gesture they would strap a bomb to themselves and try to kill as many of the people that caused their bad situation as possible. I don't agree with it, but I certain understand that a man that has nothing to loose might be driven to desperate acts of violence.

I also believe in order to have an intelligent conversation about the reality of what is really happening, that terms like left, right, conservative, liberal, republican, democrat must be removed from how we express ourselves. It's not the left or right that matters, it's human beings. It's not a team we are cheering on because most of their beliefs are the same as our own, it's what is right for human beings that really matters. Once you stop trying to politicize a subject it opens the door for real discourse and conversations on what is really going on. It allows us to put things into perspective without attaching meanings that have no place in the discussion. If you hate or dislike people whom you deem believe in the tenants of what you call "left" you automatically disregard anything they might say. What if instead you strive to understand another person's point of view, to understand what they are saying and encourage them to do the same with you? What if instead of speaking poorly of others you instead sought to have a real meaningful conversation and learn what you obviously have yet to be exposed to? What if you behaved in the way our forefathers did, who had major disagreements and yet somehow were able to come together and sign one of the worlds greatest documents, that being the US Constitution?

Hate mongering is an ugly, unnecessary way to open dialog and never works. Maybe if you put that same effort into attempting to understand people who think and see things differently than you do, you might grow to understand the world as it really is instead of the two sides you seem to have divided the world into, left or right.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/6/2016 9:30:05 PM   
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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/7/2016 1:27:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome to the boards Curious. Your very first post, in the political dungeon ? This might be fun. You seem also to be almost as loquacious as me. That's fine, just realize that some people will just skim read you when you get beyond like three paragraphs.

As far as the US causing alot of this radicalism, I agree. First of all it started with Israel in 1948. The Jew, by which time had incorporated the Ashkenazis were supposed to live in peace and harmony with the Palestinians. Actually only the Hebrews had a biblical claim to that land, if we even accept that. The Ashkenazis run it now. In the beginning they weren't even allowed weapons, and had to make ammunition from lipstick cases. They were never supposed to rule the land. Things changed and now they are on the brink of genocide, financed partly by the US. Shit like this goes a long way towards radicalization.

By 1952 US and UK oil interests were making way into these oil rich countries. But they were greedy and the lawfully elecetd President Mossadeq of Iran nationalised the oil. That prompted the CIA to get rid of him and install the Shah, who was the son of the previous Shah. He was a murderous butcher and 24 years later was overthrown by the People of Iran, and he fled to the US where President Carter gave him refuge from justice.

this caused the Iranoians to sieze the US embassy there and hold prisoner the workers for over a year, to get the Shah on their soil to face justice. Just like some US states will not extradite a murder suspect from a state without the death penalty to one with the death penalty, Carter refused.

the Shah eventually died in South America somewhere and Reagan was elected and the prisoners got sent home. Note that none of them were killed there, also note that only US intel agents were tortured and also note that when someone was found to be ill and in need of medical care (this really did happen) they were released and sent home.

The Iatolla came to power in Iran and that necessitated the US to install Saddam in Iraq. Not quite the butcher the Shah was but ruled with an iron fist. In fact he kept the country together. Some cunt named Gertrude Bell drew some likes on a map creating Iraq, which should have been three countries because there are three major factions there who can't stand each other. So now `there is an intermittent civil war there, they wake up some days and feel like killing and other days they sleep in..

Then we have Afghanistan. You have not probably yet heard the truth about that. The US is there for the opiates, both legal and illegal. NODOBY could get that much heroin into this country without getting caught. And that doesn't even include the legal ones you get in hospitals etc. There is big big money in this ad the Taliban outlawed the growing of poppies for that purpose, in fact making it a death penalty. So of course they had to go.

The USSR bombed them into the stoe age so many times that their clocks run backward. But then we picked up the job when they collapsed. And BTW, we did not cause the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Russian people did. They said "They pretend to pay us so w3e pretend to work". They produced in the factories but the defect rate was so high that the system was simply not sustainable.

The cold war was a ajor scam perpetrated on both the Russians and us. The big scare was to get us to support an arms buildup. Neither one of us was EVER EVER going to attack the other. We were allies in WW2 remember, in fact they did more than we did ! but the red scare resulted in the People of both countries supporting a military buildup to the point where we can pretty much take what we want from the smaller countries, and that was the goal the whole time.

And it worked like a charm didn't it ?

So now as a result we got two billion Muslims who want to kill us and that justifies a half trillion dollar a year military budget, and guess who gets that money.

It is the royal scam that Hall and Oates would never be able to concieve. In fact I am not even sure it was planned. It may have just fell into place, some things do. I tend to think it was planned but just can't say for sure.

So this is where we are now, we got a ton of enemies, some US ex Presidents cannot go to certain countries or they will get hauled in front of the Hague, US Citizens are told not to act as such in certain countries and for a time people were offering classes on how to act like Canadians to be safer traveling abroad. however the Canadian government has fucked that up by being such a good ally to the US that now their citizens are similarly imperiled.

Be as well as you can. I am 56 and I remember the good days. The cops needed a warrant to search you or your car. There were places you could go 100 MPH. You could find jobs, and I don't mean commute 50 miles each way, fill out applications and take drugs tests and background checks, I mean you could walk down the street and find a job. If they didn't treat you well enough you just walk down a different street and get a different job. Now when you got to McDonald's to get a job you are competing with 40 PhDs. And your taxes go to pay their student loans because they can't on minimum wage.

You are in a tough world toots and I wish you the best of luck. If that picture is really you, do what "the kid" is doing, go into physical therapy. The money is good and if you stay halfway good looking the patients will like you. I would do it myself but I am a stinky old Man and half blind, so even reading is a PITA. People will get sicker and sicker because of the poisons in the food plus the fact there is no damn nutrition in it. People will be falling down and breaking bones and all that.

Forget working on cars, TVs or whatever, all that shit is becoming throwaway. I remember when they used to fix toasters.

And back to the subject of the thread, we got alot of enemies. Get a gun and learn how to use it. Learn how to use it well. Learn martial arts. When these refugees come to rape you, give them what for. I would like to see that, Woman kicking their ass when they were taught that Women are property and you can do whatever you want. Hit them fucking hard and make them remember it.

Make them want to go home. And never go to their countries. Know why you make ten times the money for the same job in like Dubai ? Because you have to stop in Germany over to Neosteel and buy a fucking thousand dollar chastity belt. It is apparently illegal to report a rapes in some of those shitholes. And in Afghanistan, these religious, pious people are raping little boys. US soldiers are bitching that they are not even allowed to report it. Personally I would take a gun and blow their dick off.

Bottom line, the world is full of animals. there are still some actual people but we are outnumbered. They reproduce much faster. Don't lose your faith in humanity, just seriously consider what you call human.

They call me a racist, fukum. Alot of these biped things walking around are not human.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/7/2016 4:47:49 AM   
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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/7/2016 5:26:47 AM   
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and what have you done about muslim rapes?

Envied them, obviously.
Like the other whiney men's lib bitches in here, he's rather jealous of a culture where men can go around raping with impunity. and the women know their place.
Or did you think that the sorry sack of shit is motivated by a deep concern for human rights?

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/7/2016 11:17:16 PM   
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If you two(one) dont quit your shenanigans I will look out my birch


What caliber is that ? I got a .38.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/7/2016 11:39:16 PM   
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and what have you done about muslim rapes?

Envied them, obviously.
Like the other whiney men's lib bitches in here, he's rather jealous of a culture where men can go around raping with impunity. and the women know their place.
Or did you think that the sorry sack of shit is motivated by a deep concern for human rights?


Assumptions not in evidence. And you seem yo be another one who throws the baby out with the bathwater. I happen to agree that it is wrong for the Woman to have total choice on the abortion issue. If she is not such a whore that she knows who the Father is to charge him money or he can't drive a car for 18 years I think he should have some say in the matter. Personally, if she kills my kid I will kill her, but that is a whole different story, i think we are talking regular people here, which I am not.

I think at the very least if she knows who the Daddy is she has to go and at least say "You want this ?" to him. And if he says yes he pays out the ass for it, if she works, after about halfway through he replaces her pat, pays all hospital bills. She signs of all Parental rights. He gets the kid and all that entails. I think if he is willing to do that he should have the right, UNDER THE LAW to do that. Because that bitch could decide to have that kid is he doesn't want it and make him pay and pay and pay, that is NOT equality.

This may be one of the reasons that Judeo and Islamic religions treat Women like chattel, to make sure they get no rights like this. I cannot attest to the motives they had, but I would bet that via law they tried to limit Women's power, and that could well be the reason.

I am all for killing, killing gets things done, things that need to be done. No more pussyfooting around, even if it adds up to genocide. You know they tried that on the American Natives but there are a few of them left to carry on the tradition. Israel is going to do it to the Palestinians pretty soon, but then there will also be some of them left to carry on their tradition, whatever that is. Whatever they got left.

Look what the British empire did to people, the Roman empire, and to a lesser extent the Soviets. Now look at what the US has done in the middle east since the 1940s. We select their leaders for them. And you wonder why they are pissed off. What if they tried that shit here ? I do not blame them one bit for any terrorist act.

However I do believe it is stupid to let them come here. They hate us, the fact that they got good reason is no reason to let them come here.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 12:32:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is very strange that the right doesn't embrace Islam, they love all the same things, oil, machoism, religion. Minor theological differences separate the two...

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 3:41:19 AM   
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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 3:46:07 AM   
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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 3:54:23 AM   
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Because, of course, you never make any sweeping generalisations about "liberals" and "the left" yourself.


Well, to be fair, he does tend to avoid making positive generalizations... so you could say that half the battle has been won at least.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 4:03:14 AM   
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Assumptions not in evidence.

Assumptions more or less proven by the rest of your post: the jealousy of how Arabs get to treat their women is palpable.

LadyDemura
Elements of the right do embrace elements of Islam, at least: here's a nice picture of Republican/Saudi foreplay:


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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 6:50:41 AM   
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I think at the very least if she knows who the Daddy is she has to go and at least say "You want this ?" to him. And if he says yes he pays out the ass for it, if she works, after about halfway through he replaces her pat, pays all hospital bills. She signs of all Parental rights. He gets the kid and all that entails. I think if he is willing to do that he should have the right, UNDER THE LAW to do that. Because that bitch could decide to have that kid is he doesn't want it and make him pay and pay and pay, that is NOT equality.


It's not equality because the man doesn't get to carry the baby in his belly for Nine Months. There is NOTHING equal about Pregnancy. Because the man CAN'T carry it! Who-ever carries the baby decides. The man has a choice to refuse his seed to women, IF he can't get rights to his baby in her stomach ya know. I am saying he is 101% involve in the choice too.
I think it's ridiculous for men trying to complain about lack of equality in abortion issue, when they aren't the ones carrying it. They are totally negating the FACT that they have full choice not to give away their sperm to these women who will have total control AFTER they receive their sperm. DON'T give away your SPERM!

Gosh and these days, there are so many gazillion ways to have sex without donating your Sperm, for gawd's sake! If you choose to donate your Sperm into another host's body, you are giving it up control over what happens to it!

It's as simple as that!

Or just make bloody test tube babies legal already, so that men can go get test tube babies on donated ovaries rather than rely on a woman to host his baby!

Besides, MOST sensible men would donate their sperm ONLY to a woman who actually wants a baby with him!






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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 7:21:31 AM   
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It's not equality because the man doesn't get to carry the baby in his belly for Nine Months.

Just nine months? Greta,the mother gets saddled with the kid until it's old enough to look after itself.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for all of the whining about how "some skank shouldn't be able to kill my kid" if the people coming out with that crap weren't opposed to supporting the kids they think shouldn't be killed. They regard welfare spending on bastards as a waste of money, refuse to pay child support, and then they have the nerve to complain when some woman doesn't want to be saddled with the consequences of their refusal to use birth control any more than they do.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 7:41:05 AM   
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It's not equality because the man doesn't get to carry the baby in his belly for Nine Months.

Just nine months? Greta,the mother gets saddled with the kid until it's old enough to look after itself.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for all of the whining about how "some skank shouldn't be able to kill my kid" if the people coming out with that crap weren't opposed to supporting the kids they think shouldn't be killed. They regard welfare spending on bastards as a waste of money, refuse to pay child support, and then they have the nerve to complain when some woman doesn't want to be saddled with the consequences of their refusal to use birth control any more than they do.

Technically, according to Termy's plan, IF the man wants to keep the baby, and the woman does not. Then after the baby is born, the man should take the baby and take care of the baby HIMSELF and not bother the mother with it.

So my point is, EVEN with that solution, which sounded fair, but the woman still gotta carry it for Nine Months which still makes it unfair.

End of the day, every man knows that once he donates his sperm to a female host, he loses his right to decide what happens to that baby. SO don't donate your sperm to females who have not agreed to love your baby! No man is forced against his will to donate his sperm.

Again unless it's rape, I support mandatory abortion IF the man was raped. As the woman stole his sperm against his will. That is illegal!


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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 8:17:40 AM   
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Technically, according to Termy's plan, IF the man wants to keep the baby, and the woman does not. Then after the baby is born, the man should take the baby and take care of the baby HIMSELF and not bother the mother with it.

So my point is, EVEN with that solution, which sounded fair, but the woman still gotta carry it for Nine Months which still makes it unfair.

Gotcha.

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 10:02:12 AM   
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Over 400,000 women in the U.S. suffer from postpartum depression each year. Yet only an estimated 15 percent of those mothers receive treatment, and countless women who have suffered from PPD report feeling deeply alone in their struggles.

But the federal government is offering families a glimmer of hope for the future of maternal mental health in the U.S.

On Nov. 30, Rep. Katherine M. Clark (D-Mass.) announced that her maternal mental health legislation, the Bringing Postpartum Depression Out of the Shadows Act, passed in the House of Representatives. On Wednesday, it passed in the Senate.

The bill authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services to provide federal grants to states for the purpose of screening, assessing and treating PPD. The grants would allow states to create, improve or maintain programs around maternal mental health and help women who are pregnant or recently gave birth.

“As a mom of three boys, I know how rewarding, as well as how overwhelming and exhausting, a new baby can be,” Clark told The Huffington Post.

“Moms comprise fewer than a fifth of Congress, so it’s especially important for us to bring these perspectives into policymaking,” she added. “I introduced this bill because our moms need to know they matter ― that we, as a nation, value them and will fight for the health and success of their families.”


More info at huff n poo,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-passes-groundbreaking-postpartum-depression-legislation_us_584053a6e4b09e21702d2a43
THe Reps page and announcement
http://katherineclark.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=42DB07FC-5B12-440B-BB22-4C44F62300D5
and the bill is
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3235
http://katherineclark.house.gov/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=42DB07FC-5B12-440B-BB22-4C44F62300D5

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RE: The West's Politically Correct Dictatorship - 12/8/2016 2:29:45 PM   
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It is very strange that the right doesn't embrace Islam, they love all the same things, oil, machoism, religion. Minor theological differences separate the two...

You forgot to mention the Book of Leviticus.

the Right and Islam both loooooove that.

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