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I believe the American Government really created and then promoted modern Islamic extremism and terrorism in the 1970s, specially as a reaction to Russia invading Afghanistan. We funded them, gave them weapons, trained them and now they are using it against us.
They call what we have done in the Middle East and other Muslim countries Christian Extremism. Where we send troops to places of the world we have no business interfering in, killing 10s of thousands of them, overthrowing what are obviously bad governments but then installing a constitution based on Judeo Christian beliefs. The United States is responsible for killing people almost on a daily basis. We have military bases, fund governments in these countries that are more friendly to our desires and yet we as a country continue to say that Muslim extremism is the cause for us being in places we shouldn't be.
I think perhaps if Muslims invaded the United States, overthrew our government, killed 10s of thousands of civilians, fired depleted uranium rounds into our most densely populated cities, funded, supported and encouraged governments that are not friendly to their own people, tortured and imprisoned without due process our citizens, installed military bases, flew drones over our houses and murdered indiscriminately innocent civilians, children, and we were forced to live under a constant threat of death, we might respond in a very similar manor as those in the Middle East have.
I have been fortunate to have traveled all over the world. No matter where you find yourself in the world, you will always find some element that believes their religion or belief system is more important than others, and who are also willing to murder and kill for their beliefs. But for the most part, and including the Middle East, people, civilians, just want what we all want. To live in peace without living with the threat of constant death. To own a house and perhaps land. To provide a safe and nurturing environment for their family and children, to have food, shelter, water and to be happy. It doesn't take much at all, and yet we wonder why we have such a horrible reputation and why we as a country, and we being the United States, when we take from others whatever we want to improve our own lives at the cost of theirs being less than it should.
I don't agree with any type of extremism, Christian, Muslim, Jewish or any of the other multiple beliefs that exist. But I can understand why someone would be angry when you invade their country, ruin their economy, trash their cities, dictate how their life should be, kill their family, their children, destroy their home and everything they have worked their life to earn. I can understand that when a human being has everything taken from them by another human being to the point they have nothing left to loose, why they might decide as a going away gesture they would strap a bomb to themselves and try to kill as many of the people that caused their bad situation as possible. I don't agree with it, but I certain understand that a man that has nothing to loose might be driven to desperate acts of violence.
I also believe in order to have an intelligent conversation about the reality of what is really happening, that terms like left, right, conservative, liberal, republican, democrat must be removed from how we express ourselves. It's not the left or right that matters, it's human beings. It's not a team we are cheering on because most of their beliefs are the same as our own, it's what is right for human beings that really matters. Once you stop trying to politicize a subject it opens the door for real discourse and conversations on what is really going on. It allows us to put things into perspective without attaching meanings that have no place in the discussion. If you hate or dislike people whom you deem believe in the tenants of what you call "left" you automatically disregard anything they might say. What if instead you strive to understand another person's point of view, to understand what they are saying and encourage them to do the same with you? What if instead of speaking poorly of others you instead sought to have a real meaningful conversation and learn what you obviously have yet to be exposed to? What if you behaved in the way our forefathers did, who had major disagreements and yet somehow were able to come together and sign one of the worlds greatest documents, that being the US Constitution?
Hate mongering is an ugly, unnecessary way to open dialog and never works. Maybe if you put that same effort into attempting to understand people who think and see things differently than you do, you might grow to understand the world as it really is instead of the two sides you seem to have divided the world into, left or right.
ok for what it is, but dont shit yourself, ours is paled by the russian constitution and the founders did not create it, they copy pasted it from previous existing documents from britain.
The original creators were the land owners who joined together to create a union to protect themselves from foreign attack and takeover.
the constitution is a commercial contract and the trustees chartered to protect your 'inherent *reserved*' rights instead absorbed them by subterfuge converting them to gubmint approved 'privileges'. Simply look at the dept of commerce if it the AoC forward are not clear enough.
Yep its call the hegelian dialectic. They create the problem so they can provide the solution. Oldrest trick in the book and it works every time.
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