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ORIGINAL: Edwird
Not at all surprised the point went way over your head.

Any proposed law to prevent harm to society by way of the most stupid or deranged -gun owners- is immediately turned to being an attack on the second amendment by the majority of 'conservatives,' that's a well demonstrated fact.

Then perhaps you could deminstrate that for us. Nothing that I've seen so far from the libs would actually mitigate these types of things. Though it's not difficult to demonstrate that a crap load of the libs in power have attacked the Second Amendment. Bill Clinton knows what I'm talking about. You don't even have a point.

A hint: demanding that someone provide demonstration of something and then immediately providing such demonstration yourself doesn't exhibit the best demonstration of having any smarts.

Just a hint.

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Liberals are claiming to be buying guns because the actually believe Trumpets are going to come gunning for them and conservatives are paranoid?

Gun sales increased when GHW told us that "Willie Horton is coming after you, I'm the only one who can save you.' Even before he got elected. The increased gun sales wasn't from paranoid liberals. There's a clue.

Sales of guns and ammo increased 90% after election of Obama in 2008, and if you think the only consideration there was to potential of new gun laws, you are greatly separated from reality. Take the heavy hint.

That "Take Our Country Back!" thing got hot and heavy for a while there, no question that being taken quite literally by some significant some.

The OP stated nothing about gun sales, but rather the 10% increase of already gun owners joining liberal gun clubs, which, even after all the above, means that liberals are more paranoid than 'conservatives,' do I have this right?

If it actually comes as surprise, which seems to be the case even among liberals, that those who consistently vote for demise of civilization are inherently more paranoid, then there are too many people not paying attention.

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Yes that is paranoid.
And just because Obama failed to ban guns doesn't mean he didn't try.

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"Compare that with what Trump has promised to do-- isolationism, protectionism, mass-deportations, refusing refugees."

Let's hope he can get it done.

If not and you want to give away the country, start with your house.

T^T

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Liberals are claiming to be buying guns because the actually believe Trumpets are going to come gunning for them and conservatives are paranoid?

Gun sales increased when GHW told us that "Willie Horton is coming after you, I'm the only one who can save you.' Even before he got elected. The increased gun sales wasn't from paranoid liberals. There's a clue.

Sales of guns and ammo increased 90% after election of Obama in 2008, and if you think the only consideration there was to potential of new gun laws, you are greatly separated from reality. Take the heavy hint.

That "Take Our Country Back!" thing got hot and heavy for a while there, no question that being taken quite literally by some significant some.

The OP stated nothing about gun sales, but rather the 10% increase of already gun owners joining liberal gun clubs, which, even after all the above, means that liberals are more paranoid than 'conservatives,' do I have this right?

If it actually comes as surprise, which seems to be the case even among liberals, that those who consistently vote for demise of civilization are inherently more paranoid, then there are too many people not paying attention.

For the most part, gun sales went up when Obama was elected because people thought they might not be able to get an AR-15 or other type of semi auto. Hell, they freakin Sky rocketed. They sky rocketed back in 1989 when for the first time liberals started calling for bans and introducing legislation. Same thing when Clinton introduced his stupid Assault Weapon ban and the same thing when ever there is a high profile shooting. It's the fear of possibly not being able to legally buy a particular firearm. This liberal gun buying frenzy is some kind of Trump paranoia or so it seems. They won't need them because of Trump of course but I'm looking at it as a positive thing.

"Voting for the demise of civilization" ?? Yer off Yer rocker. Get back on your meds.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Liberals are claiming to be buying guns because the actually believe Trumpets are going to come gunning for them and conservatives are paranoid?

Gun sales increased when GHW told us that "Willie Horton is coming after you, I'm the only one who can save you.' Even before he got elected. The increased gun sales wasn't from paranoid liberals. There's a clue.

Sales of guns and ammo increased 90% after election of Obama in 2008, and if you think the only consideration there was to potential of new gun laws, you are greatly separated from reality. Take the heavy hint.

That "Take Our Country Back!" thing got hot and heavy for a while there, no question that being taken quite literally by some significant some.

The OP stated nothing about gun sales, but rather the 10% increase of already gun owners joining liberal gun clubs, which, even after all the above, means that liberals are more paranoid than 'conservatives,' do I have this right?

If it actually comes as surprise, which seems to be the case even among liberals, that those who consistently vote for demise of civilization are inherently more paranoid, then there are too many people not paying attention.

For the most part, gun sales went up when Obama was elected because people thought they might not be able to get an AR-15 or other type of semi auto. Hell, they freakin Sky rocketed. They sky rocketed back in 1989 when for the first time liberals started calling for bans and introducing legislation. Same thing when Clinton introduced his stupid Assault Weapon ban and the same thing when ever there is a high profile shooting. It's the fear of possibly not being able to legally buy a particular firearm. This liberal gun buying frenzy is some kind of Trump paranoia or so it seems. They won't need them because of Trump of course but I'm looking at it as a positive thing.

"Voting for the demise of civilization" ?? Yer off Yer rocker. Get back on your meds.

Willie Horton was brought to the forefront by ... Al Gore .... in the Dem primaries.

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Yes that is paranoid.
And just because Obama failed to ban guns doesn't mean he didn't try.

No, the fact that he didn't try to ban guns is what means he didn't try.

I don't know how to put it any other way-- the idea that guns were ever going to be banned, the notion that there was ever a long-term plan to ban all guns, that Obama or the left or the socialists or the democrats want to disarm everyone in America to pave way for god knows what sort of horrifying nightmare society based on 1984 where everyone has computer chips in their brains or whatever-- ALL of it is fiction, a lie, a dream, a false prophecy, an uninformed guess... anything but realistic.

So you're saying Trump's rhetoric hasn't stirred up racial tensions? You think he's just a normal right-wing candidate? The same as Bush 1 and 2, Romney, McCain or Reagan?

Obama was to the right of most left-wing leaders in every single westernized/liberal democratic nation on the planet... he was even more right than Canada's right wing Prime Minister during the mid-2000s. He mostly just wanted to bring to America the kinds of things that Canadians, Australians and Brits have had in place for decades now. So you think that America becoming more like those countries is something that MUST be resisted at all costs? THIS is what you need to arm yourself to protect against?

Compare that with what Trump has promised to do-- isolationism, protectionism, mass-deportations, refusing refugees. These are NOT policies that any other modern conservative leader would have embraced. They are however, the same policies that extreme right wing parties like Golden Dawn, UKIP, and Dansk Folkeparti have been openly calling for... and ALL of these parties are connected to fascism in Europe.

I honestly don't even think that anyone who voted for Trump is aware enough of the outside world to understand that he is part of a global fascist resurgence that has made a LOT of people on BOTH sides of the political spectrum really uneasy. Just because you're not aware of this doesn't mean other people should just ignore it.

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He tried to ban entire classes of guns, total bans don't start with banning them all, you demonize one type of gun at a time, reduce the number of gun owners then ban another type. As far as Obama being a right winger, what world have you been living in.

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He tried to ban entire classes of guns, total bans don't start with banning them all, you demonize one type of gun at a time, reduce the number of gun owners then ban another type. As far as Obama being a right winger, what world have you been living in.

http://www.skepdic.com/slipperyslope.html

I live in the world that includes other countries as well as America.

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Both he and Hillary insist that there is no individual right to bear arms.

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Both he and Hillary insist that there is no individual right to bear arms.

And the rightards have a problem with this why?
Put it this way, it's not going to be the incumbent president that "liberals" are thinking of shooting with the guns they're buying, is it?

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Both he and Hillary insist that there is no individual right to bear arms.

And the rightards have a problem with this why?
Put it this way, it's not going to be the incumbent president that "liberals" are thinking of shooting with the guns they're buying, is it?

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Hope, rather than think. They're a bit more likely to do something pro-active than the whiney bitches on the right who are still playing the victim after winning the election, but don't hold your breath waiting.

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Hope, rather than think. They're a bit more likely to do something pro-active than the whiney bitches on the right who are still playing the victim after winning the election, but don't hold your breath waiting.

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Hope, rather than think. They're a bit more likely to do something pro-active than the whiney bitches on the right who are still playing the victim after winning the election, but don't hold your breath waiting.

So you advocate treason? That is what an attempt to over through would be.
And with all your predictions of right wing uprisings in the past (which you may note no such thing happened) that the military would have no trouble dealing with people who have used firearms all their lives and have experience in "noncoventional" warfare that a buch of snowflaks with their first gun have any chance.

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Hope, rather than think. They're a bit more likely to do something pro-active than the whiney bitches on the right who are still playing the victim after winning the election, but don't hold your breath waiting.

So you advocate treason? That is what an attempt to over through would be.
And with all your predictions of right wing uprisings in the past (which you may note no such thing happened) that the military would have no trouble dealing with people who have used firearms all their lives and have experience in "noncoventional" warfare that a buch of snowflaks with their first gun have any chance.

No, I advocate freedom. It's only treason if you actually support the president who gets killed, looking at some of the shite you fuckwits have spent the last eight years spouting about that uppity Democrat who's still camped out in the White House until they swear your tiny-handed crotch grabber in.

When did I predict a right wing uprising?
I just point out, whenever talk turns to some rightist fucktard with no balls (like that draft dodging piece of shit Nugent) bitching about taking their country back and needing guns to overthrow an undesirable government or the ferret wearing shitgibbon whining that his bitches wouldn't accept a vote that went against him, that no rightard would have the balls or backbone to do any such thing. I was scornful of the idea that any of the orange cuntbubble's clade of fuckwits, twats and pondlife would do anything besides whining on social media if he lost.