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NerdsThunderCat -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 12:31:19 PM)

Fet is in my opinion worse I have the groups are more of the people who choose to roleplay 24/7and that ain't me at all



NerdsThunderCat -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 12:47:53 PM)

Ok so I am in to ddlg as well

So let me twist this up for you who are saying raceplay and ddlg is like harming a child



Have I ever had any harm com to me during any of these kinds or rp nope is anything I have never been more safe or in control even though I was the slave or little in the play


Did I ever harm a child no


Did the people involved no was there a child anywhere around


Do any of us find children sexually attractive No


What does pedophile mean someone who finds a child's body Tractive not the axe not the behavior but their body so a real pedophile would be in moved by a grown ass woman or man throwing a tantrum because they didn't get enough cuddles or wanted to go to the zoo

If anything it would probably make them sick

So have your opinion but pedophilia is a mentel defect that makes you want a child in a sexual way


It's not consent it's not 2ADULTS Acting out some sort of role in a sexual way for what ever reason a side from wanting to actually be with a real child


And most people in my experience don't even RP ddlg in a sexual way it's almost always a non sexual kink in my experience not say it's this way for everybody



NerdsThunderCat -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 12:51:25 PM)

Omg fucking auto spell I'm too angry about this right now I'm sorry my last post is all fucked up just grrrrrrr



Wayward5oul -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 1:05:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NerdsThunderCat

Omg fucking auto spell I'm too angry about this right now I'm sorry my last post is all fucked up just grrrrrrr

Don't worry about it.

As far as emails from the other side goes, if they weren't sending you hateful emails about raceplay it would be about something else. There are people on this site who it seems are here for no reason other than to fuck with other people. You just have to learn to ignore then. Delete delete delete.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 2:59:02 PM)

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You are the one who brought up kink with little kids:

No I did not. You need to pay attention to what was actually said, however, your reaction is proving my point.

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This is not a kink. Its sick, illegal, immoral and you are the one who brought it up. I did not go there, you did. I have never heard of anyone in the community condoning a pedafile.


Just as I thought, you cannot explain why it is not a kink, and thus you are proving my point

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You specifically wrote kink with little kids. Not age play but kink with little kids.


Actually, no. I did NOT write "kink with little kids". You really should pay attention.

I am very grateful to you for so effectively demonstrating the truth of my remark. Thank you.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 3:05:53 PM)

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I'll take a shot at it.

Well thanks, but you shouldn't have bothered, you didn't even come close to the target. Hell, you weren't even in the same state, let alone the same county.
See, I said nothing about any criminal activity. And for what it's worth, just about everything you do is "criminal activity", and according to the law, consent has no impact on that criminality, so by your reasoning, your kinks are not kinks. Do try again.
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Well, as soon as the word pedophile comes into it, going there is the logical conclusion. Kind of have to go with the definition.

I agree, but I suggest you refresh your knowledge of that definition.
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Still have to say we're looking at the difference between kink and criminal.

And you are wrong, because I said nothing about anything criminal, and what's more, much of kink is already criminal, thus criminality has no impact on the question of what is or is not a kink.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 3:08:38 PM)

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So have your opinion but pedophilia is a mentel defect that makes you want a child in a sexual way

i see. And is wanting somebody of the same gender as you in a sexual way also a mental defect? How about wanting to do stuff with urine in a sexual way, is that a mental defect?



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 3:10:11 PM)

So, the consensus seems to be that somebody having a kink for little kids is a kink that one need not respect simply because it is one you don't like.

Which is exactly the point I was making by bringing it up.



DocStrange -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 3:56:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

So, the consensus seems to be that somebody having a kink for little kids is a kink that one need not respect simply because it is one you don't like.

Which is exactly the point I was making by bringing it up.

No, The consensus is that kink for little kids is not a kink. It is illegal, immoral and wrong.



stef -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 5:29:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

So, the consensus seems to be that somebody having a kink for little kids is a kink that one need not respect simply because it is one you don't like

Only on Planet Dafuk.

Everywhere else, its a morally reprehensible criminal act.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 6:07:09 PM)

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It is illegal

Really? then perhaps you can cite the law in question.
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immoral and wrong

Why?



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 6:08:36 PM)

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a morally reprehensible criminal act

I invite you to cite the relevant law as well.



Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 7:17:40 PM)

Are you seriously defending pedophilia?
Is this one of cinnamongirl's socks?



DesFIP -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 7:48:14 PM)

NerdsThunderCat, you're too thinned skin. People on the net frequently troll others, just for the fun of getting them upset. This is how they get out their anger at their boss, or the guy who cut them off in traffic. By writing random strangers and saying horrible things.

You have to learn to ignore them.

LadyPact, sorry this was back on the bondage.com forums so getting on at least a dozen years ago. All I really remember was him not understanding that his choice of clothing was costing him money.



Greta75 -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 8:18:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DocStrange

No, The consensus is that kink for little kids is not a kink. It is illegal, immoral and wrong.

But so is the kink for rape. And the kink for slavery.
I'd argue those are illegal, immoral and wrong. But in BDSM, we find consensual adults to play out those kinks, so that they can be legal. That is the basis of BDSM, and why it is taboo, because IT IS filled with illegal, immoral stuffs!

I mean some of those bruises on some of those women, could be criminal offences, IF they reported their dominant inflicting those on them!

I'd also argue that encouraging Pedophiles to play out their fantasies or kink on legally aged women who look like little kids and are sized like little kids, WILL discourage them to aim for real little kids.

It should actually be encouraged as a BDSM kink for them to have an outlet to play it out, rather than repress it and then actually harm a real kid.

Besides Dizzy is a mom herself of a baby. In no way is she saying people with Pedophilia kinks should indulge in underage kids. But to say it's not a kink is being dishonest. To me, it is a kink too!



Wayward5oul -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 8:35:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

Are you seriously defending pedophilia?
Is this one of cinnamongirl's socks?

I think that with the many statements being quoted and responded to out of context, and then those being snipped and further responded to, some wires got crossed. At least I hope so.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 9:12:44 PM)

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Are you seriously defending pedophilia?

No, I am making a point regarding the supposed "respect others' kink" bullshit. Pay attention.

Though if you do wish to have that discussion, i would be more than happy to do so, I suspect it would be interesting. Though before we do I recommend you make sure you know what the term pedophilia actually means, as it would seem a number of people here are somewhat unclear on that.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 9:23:06 PM)

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In no way is she saying people with Pedophilia kinks should indulge in underage kids.

Of course I am not. There is nothing in what I said that could be construed to be even vaguely suggesting that.

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But to say it's not a kink is being dishonest.

Of course it is dishonest, which is precisely why everybody is focusing on actual child abuse rather than the actual point, so they can all just ignore the hypocrisy of both their stance and of the whole idea that other people's kinks are respected, or that even that they should be. Their responses have made undeniably clear that their method of avoiding "respecting" a kink they do not like is to declare it not a kink and therefore not needing respect.

And when asked to explain why it is not a kink, they do not discuss the kink, but rather the possible ways people might act on that kink, and thus they avoid having to actually deal with the fundamental question.

Basically it is a red herring argument.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 9:26:33 PM)

I did not choose the example kink I chose because I have any affinity to it, but rather because I knew it would immediately elicit the responses it did, and thereby prove that my point was in fact correct.
I find it far more effective to let one's detractors demonstrate the truth of what they are decrying than to do so oneself.



NerdsThunderCat -> RE: Why do raceplayers get so much crap from everyone (12/27/2016 10:48:04 PM)

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13.[1] A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, but adolescents must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1][2]

Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia involving intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that have either been acted upon or which cause the person with the attraction distress or interpersonal difficulty.[1] The International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) defines it as a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age.



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