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by Baxter Dmitry,Your News Wire:<br>
Vladimir Putin has used his annual Christmas press conference to accuse Western liberal elites of abandoning the traditional values that made their countries great. Instead of building a future based on solid Christian values, Western elites have created a culture of “excessive, exaggerated political correctness” that is so destructive it will lead to the downfall of Western civilization if it is not arrested.<br>
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In a nearly four-hour question and answer session, the Russian president held forth on the state of his country and the world, saying that there is an international push for a New World Order that will “remove national sovereignty” and “destroy identity and of God-created diversity.”<br>
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To reach this goal, Putin states that Western elites have begun rejecting the roots that their society was built on.<br>
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“Many Western states have taken the way where they deny or reject their own roots, including their Christian roots which form the basis of Western civilization. In these countries, the moral basis and any traditional identity are being denied – national, religious, cultural and even gender identities are being denied or relativized.”<br>
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“In these countries, the moral basis and any traditional identity are being denied – national, religious, cultural and even gender identities are being denied or relativized. There, politics treats a family with many children as equal to a homosexual partnership (juridically).<br>
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The excesses and exaggerations of political correctness in these countries indeed leads to serious consideration for the legitimization of parties that promote the propaganda of pedophilia.<br>
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“The people in many European states are actually ashamed of their religious affiliations and are indeed frightened to speak about them.”<br>
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Putin says that the situation has become so extreme in Western culture, that people are now taught that “Faith in God is equal to faith in Satan”. To say otherwise would be to risk being politically incorrect — the great crime of our age.<br>
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“Christian holidays and celebrations are abolished or ‘neutrally’ renamed, as if one were ashamed of those Christian holidays. With this method one hides away the deeper moral values of these celebrations.<br>
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“And these countries try to force this model onto other countries, globally. I am deeply convnced that this is a direct way to the degradation and primitivization of culture. This leads to deeper demographic and moral crisis in the West. What can be a better evidence for the moral crisis of a human society (in the West) than the loss of its reproductive function?“<br>
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Western countries cannot survive reproductively<br>
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“Today nearly all ‘developed’ Western countries cannot survive reproductively, not even with the help of migrants.<br>
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Without the moral values that are rooted in Christianity and other world religions, without rules and moral values which have formed and been developed over millennia, people will inevitably lose their human dignity.”<br>
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Putin was unapologetic about Russia’s determination to defend Western values.<br>
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“And we think it is right and natural to defend and preserve these moral (Christian) values.”<br>
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So, you are quoting Putin now as an authority on Western values? Really? Since when is the leader of Russia someone who we should look to for guidance?

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Newsflash-serving as flagbearer for Western values has nothing to do with why some Americans have decided that they like Putin.

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Well he is discussing traditional western values. We have definitely been abandoning many of those these days in our society.

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Newsflash-serving as flagbearer for Western values has nothing to do with why some Americans have decided that they like Putin.

Sure it is. It's part of it anyways.

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What I find interesting is you state other people of color have issue with your chosen kink. Given the history of slavery here it's understandable they could find it distasteful. That does not allow them the right to judge your choices. Race play is just that, play.

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But nothing in BDSM is actual Slavery or actual Rape.

The way I understand it is that it's real but consensual

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Maybe the difference is that pedophile players also end up doing horrified parent play, arrest play, prison play, trial play, 5 year sentence play, protective custody play, release into social ostracism play, sex offender registry play, remission play and finally repeat offender play.

I like this. It opens the door to vigilante justice father play.

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Actually Greta, it can get beyond 'play'... especially with M/s. There are some submissives that can't leave their Masters.

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Actually Greta, it can get beyond 'play'... especially with M/s. There are some submissives that can't leave their Masters.

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I know 2 who couldn't leave their Master if their life depended on it. And sometimes i used to think it did. I barely got out myself.

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Actually Greta, it can get beyond 'play'... especially with M/s. There are some submissives that can't leave their Masters.

By CHOICE.
You can convince yourself you have no free will all you want, but when the law protects you, you have free will to leave any time you wish to. A bdsm slave will stay for as long as she feels fulfilled in something that is going on with her Master. And I am sure when that fulfillment disappears, she will leave, and can leave. If she is content and happy, she stays.

I mean, if you are talking stockholm syndromes where the abused can't leave their abusers, sure! Would some dominants cultivate that neediness in their submissives? Sure, of course it happens.
Just like wife in abusive marriages who don't leave too. And even wives who are breadwinners in abusive marriages, we had a case where husband was house husband, wife makes 300k per annum. She turns up at work with bruises everyday. I mean, back story, we don't know if they are BDSM or not.

But front story, headline story was that, she just can't leave her husband despite the abuse and her case is unique since she was the sole bread winner and has financial independence. Sure, it happens.

Are those "real slavery"? Because to me, the Real Slavery is when, your Master has the right to prevent you from leaving by any way possible. Some do this through killing you. Being "property" means you are lower than a Human being and are not subjected to the same human rights regular humans get. That's what happens to real slaves right?

In BDSM cases, if slaves don't leave, it is their choice, and when they wanna leave, their Masters have no right to obstruct them from leaving in any unlawful manner, and technically to create an "unhealthy neediness" like stockholm's syndrome can be another unlawful way of keeping the sub attached to him.

I see no way for Real Slavery to be practiced in BDSM, just like no way for Real Pedophilia to be practiced in BDSM, if we want to stick to what BDSM means, which is all about mutual consensual practices of taboo things.

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No... people can't always just leave. For some it would be financially devastating, for others it is Stockholm Syndrome as you described, there are many reasons why people can't just leave a relationship.