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BamaD -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 6:42:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I THINK he is a fascist, but I don't know for sure . . .

What I find curious is why you insist on running around screaming Fascist! at virtually every opportunity when it's obvious (including even to yourself) that you don't really know. Does that have something to do with your blinking?

K.



So far Heavy Blinker has claimed to be
A A Canadian male
B An American living in Canada
C A female American living in Canada
D A Russian female living in Canada
E Now has no profile.

If he/she lies about his/her gender and nationality how can you believe anything he/she says.

I am done trying to reason with what ever they are.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 7:54:36 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
What I find curious is why you insist on running around screaming Fascist! at virtually every opportunity when it's obvious (including even to yourself) that you don't really know. Does that have something to do with your blinking?


I've already explained my position quite a few times.

I'm not screaming anything... you simply project whatever tone onto my words helps you to dismiss what I'm saying.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 8:08:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I THINK he is a fascist, but I don't know for sure . . .

What I find curious is why you insist on running around screaming Fascist! at virtually every opportunity when it's obvious (including even to yourself) that you don't really know. Does that have something to do with your blinking?

K.



So far Heavy Blinker has claimed to be
A A Canadian male
B An American living in Canada
C A female American living in Canada
D A Russian female living in Canada
E Now has no profile.

If he/she lies about his/her gender and nationality how can you believe anything he/she says.

I am done trying to reason with what ever they are.


I've only ever claimed to be an American male living in Canada.

YOU assumed I was a Canadian because you looked at my profile and it lists my location as Canada, which is true. I can only assume that you were trying to dig up dirt or you wanted to make fun of my kinks or something... and I didn't correct you because I had already explained this and I don't give a fuck what you think.

I had never claimed to be an American female living in Canada... EVER.

I even told everyone I had a full beard and multiple times other posters have said 'what is up with everyone thinking he's a girl'?

STILL I had idiots like you referring to me as a 'she', so I changed my profile because what the fuck I wasn't using it anyways, and it's not like anyone here was checking it when they thought I was a girl. I thought it would be amusing... what exactly do you think I have gained by doing that? Have I ever posted anything about how I suffer from gender bias or about my numerous female-related problems? Have I claimed to have an insider perspective on Russian society?

I never claimed to be a Russian living in Canada-- you are completely delusional.

I changed my location to Russia to celebrate the dawn of the Trump era, since Putin is pretty much running the show.

Okay, you've done it now... congrats, the terrible truth emerges. It's a false scandal on the same level as Benghazi!!!




BamaD -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 8:21:27 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I THINK he is a fascist, but I don't know for sure . . .

What I find curious is why you insist on running around screaming Fascist! at virtually every opportunity when it's obvious (including even to yourself) that you don't really know. Does that have something to do with your blinking?

K.



So far Heavy Blinker has claimed to be
A A Canadian male
B An American living in Canada
C A female American living in Canada
D A Russian female living in Canada
E Now has no profile.

If he/she lies about his/her gender and nationality how can you believe anything he/she says.

I am done trying to reason with what ever they are.


I've only ever claimed to be an American male living in Canada.

YOU assumed I was a Canadian because you looked at my profile and it lists my location as Canada, which is true. I can only assume that you were trying to dig up dirt or you wanted to make fun of my kinks or something... and I didn't correct you because I had already explained this and I don't give a fuck what you think.

I had never claimed to be an American female living in Canada... EVER.

I even told everyone I had a full beard and multiple times other posters have said 'what is up with everyone thinking he's a girl'?

STILL I had idiots like you referring to me as a 'she', so I changed my profile because what the fuck I wasn't using it anyways, and it's not like anyone here was checking it when they thought I was a girl. I thought it would be amusing... what exactly do you think I have gained by doing that? Have I ever posted anything about how I suffer from gender bias or about my numerous female-related problems? Have I claimed to have an insider perspective on Russian society?

I never claimed to be a Russian living in Canada-- you are completely delusional.

I changed my location to Russia to celebrate the dawn of the Trump era, since Putin is pretty much running the show.

Okay, you've done it now... congrats, the terrible truth emerges. It's a false scandal on the same level as Benghazi!!!

Your profile said you were male.
Then it said you were female.
Then it said you were in Russia.
The last time I checked it said you had no profile.
Sometimes I had to use what other people said you had told them.
I look at people's profile so that I know something about them, address them by the right gender, know what county they are in, things like that. Nothing sinister there at all.
No scandal there, and nothing I could do could match allowing 4 Americans to die, cover up the administrations incompetency and lie about the cause.
You give what you consider to be "rational" explanations for your lies, and think that makes me somehow wrong to point out that you did so.

Are you so warped that you think catching you in a series of lies is somehow sinister on my part, God you are sick.

This is even worse than anything I would expect of a koolaide drinker.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 11:24:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If I support killing I don't dance around it I say it. You want him dead because he might be a fascist but you lack the intestinal fortitude to say so.


I don't know why you need me to say it so bluntly-- is it because you're just not good with subtlety?

I want him to not be the President of The United States. If this could be accomplished without his death, I support that option first... but I don't think there are other options, so his death would be a great relief. He's old, so it could happen anyways... that would be ideal. Maybe the stress of the job could do it-- who knows? I don't want him to be shot or killed in a terrorist attack though... nothing that would lead to thoughts of revenge. It would ideally be natural causes-- stress, a fall, a heart attack, a clogged artery, cancer, meth overdose... something like that. It wouldn't have to be gruesome because it's not about wanting revenge-- I'm legitimately worried about the future of the planet, and one man's death seems like a small price to pay for avoiding what could easily turn into an absolute nightmare.

I have already told you that it is very possible that I'm wrong about this, but just think of how easy Pence would have it if Trump were dead. Obviously there would be the usual conspiracy shite, but the mood among the left would be much improved and unity would be that much closer. Even W. would be a relief at this point-- obviously he was despised but there wasn't the same sense of things veering so dangerously out of control, or of him being anything other than another establishment neocon.

Pence isn't wonderful but at the very least he has a degree of self-control and I was frankly impressed by his conduct over the Hamilton thing... I definitely wouldn't be as worried knowing he was in charge. He has his fucked up beliefs, but the ability to listen to reason is really important, and Trump doesn't have it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Every government attempt to "help" people gives them more control over the individual's life. I don't care if it comes from the right or the left I don't like it.


You were equating increased government control with fascism, which isn't correct.

And whether or not a government wants to control or serve people depends on the ideological forces at work within the government. Simply being large doesn't mean it's out to get you.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Yes Obama is closer to being a communist than Trump is to being a fascist. But then you are closer to being a communist than Obama.


Right, I guess that explains all of those Stalinesque tax cuts and bailouts and investments in capitalist enterprises. And this is why the US gets a weird series of subsidized and regulated private health insurance plans instead of universal public health care. He also bought out all of those worthless houses that are now state-owned and rented out by their former owners. America is communismland!

Meanwhile:
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-330476?rm=eu
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/124205/yes-donald-trump-fascist
http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/10/fascism/502841/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_label_that_best_describes.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/09/opinions/bergen-is-trump-fascist/index.html

And communists support a classless stateless society... as in NO government, at least not in the sense that you would imagine a government to function.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 11:40:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I THINK he is a fascist, but I don't know for sure . . .

What I find curious is why you insist on running around screaming Fascist! at virtually every opportunity when it's obvious (including even to yourself) that you don't really know. Does that have something to do with your blinking?

K.



So far Heavy Blinker has claimed to be
A A Canadian male
B An American living in Canada
C A female American living in Canada
D A Russian female living in Canada
E Now has no profile.

If he/she lies about his/her gender and nationality how can you believe anything he/she says.

I am done trying to reason with what ever they are.


I've only ever claimed to be an American male living in Canada.

YOU assumed I was a Canadian because you looked at my profile and it lists my location as Canada, which is true. I can only assume that you were trying to dig up dirt or you wanted to make fun of my kinks or something... and I didn't correct you because I had already explained this and I don't give a fuck what you think.

I had never claimed to be an American female living in Canada... EVER.

I even told everyone I had a full beard and multiple times other posters have said 'what is up with everyone thinking he's a girl'?

STILL I had idiots like you referring to me as a 'she', so I changed my profile because what the fuck I wasn't using it anyways, and it's not like anyone here was checking it when they thought I was a girl. I thought it would be amusing... what exactly do you think I have gained by doing that? Have I ever posted anything about how I suffer from gender bias or about my numerous female-related problems? Have I claimed to have an insider perspective on Russian society?

I never claimed to be a Russian living in Canada-- you are completely delusional.

I changed my location to Russia to celebrate the dawn of the Trump era, since Putin is pretty much running the show.

Okay, you've done it now... congrats, the terrible truth emerges. It's a false scandal on the same level as Benghazi!!!

Your profile said you were male.
Then it said you were female.
Then it said you were in Russia.
The last time I checked it said you had no profile.
Sometimes I had to use what other people said you had told them.
I look at people's profile so that I know something about them, address them by the right gender, know what county they are in, things like that. Nothing sinister there at all.
No scandal there, and nothing I could do could match allowing 4 Americans to die, cover up the administrations incompetency and lie about the cause.
You give what you consider to be "rational" explanations for your lies, and think that makes me somehow wrong to point out that you did so.

Are you so warped that you think catching you in a series of lies is somehow sinister on my part, God you are sick.

This is even worse than anything I would expect of a koolaide drinker.


Its Arpig.




BamaD -> RE: Trump voters not allowed (12/30/2016 12:53:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
If I support killing I don't dance around it I say it. You want him dead because he might be a fascist but you lack the intestinal fortitude to say so.


I don't know why you need me to say it so bluntly-- is it because you're just not good with subtlety?

I want him to not be the President of The United States. If this could be accomplished without his death, I support that option first... but I don't think there are other options, so his death would be a great relief. He's old, so it could happen anyways... that would be ideal. Maybe the stress of the job could do it-- who knows? I don't want him to be shot or killed in a terrorist attack though... nothing that would lead to thoughts of revenge. It would ideally be natural causes-- stress, a fall, a heart attack, a clogged artery, cancer, meth overdose... something like that. It wouldn't have to be gruesome because it's not about wanting revenge-- I'm legitimately worried about the future of the planet, and one man's death seems like a small price to pay for avoiding what could easily turn into an absolute nightmare.

I have already told you that it is very possible that I'm wrong about this, but just think of how easy Pence would have it if Trump were dead. Obviously there would be the usual conspiracy shite, but the mood among the left would be much improved and unity would be that much closer. Even W. would be a relief at this point-- obviously he was despised but there wasn't the same sense of things veering so dangerously out of control, or of him being anything other than another establishment neocon.

Pence isn't wonderful but at the very least he has a degree of self-control and I was frankly impressed by his conduct over the Hamilton thing... I definitely wouldn't be as worried knowing he was in charge. He has his fucked up beliefs, but the ability to listen to reason is really important, and Trump doesn't have it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Every government attempt to "help" people gives them more control over the individual's life. I don't care if it comes from the right or the left I don't like it.


You were equating increased government control with fascism, which isn't correct.

And whether or not a government wants to control or serve people depends on the ideological forces at work within the government. Simply being large doesn't mean it's out to get you.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
Yes Obama is closer to being a communist than Trump is to being a fascist. But then you are closer to being a communist than Obama.


Right, I guess that explains all of those Stalinesque tax cuts and bailouts and investments in capitalist enterprises. And this is why the US gets a weird series of subsidized and regulated private health insurance plans instead of universal public health care. He also bought out all of those worthless houses that are now state-owned and rented out by their former owners. America is communismland!

Meanwhile:
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-330476?rm=eu
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/124205/yes-donald-trump-fascist
http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/10/fascism/502841/
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_label_that_best_describes.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/09/opinions/bergen-is-trump-fascist/index.html

And communists support a classless stateless society... as in NO government, at least not in the sense that you would imagine a government to function.

A You don't know that Trump is a fascist (though you have stated it as fact several times), but just in case you want him dead.
B Stalinesgue tax cuts? No such thing.
C As if you didn't know I was talking about the Marxist "temporary" dictatorship of the proletariat.




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