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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/3/2017 7:36:33 AM   
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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/3/2017 12:24:43 PM   
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-shooting-idUSKBN14L13V

Brazil lost 11 on NY...
Christian country Brazil
Has a murder rate in 2014 oh 24.6


More proof that we need to enforce our Southern border again, finally

I noticed, when checked on the Turkish murder rate, that the murder rate for the Americas is a little over 16 4 time the US rate with at least as tight gun controls as anyone. I do not think gun control has worked there.
To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.


Do you think spastic is racist, for pointing out that a non-white country is so extremely violent though

No, past history does not indicate racism. A since of superiority over Americans and perhaps a bit anti-Christian. But she also has proclaimed her anti-terrorist feelings.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/3/2017 12:32:05 PM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

You seem to have somewhat turned things upside down. Ministers protecting each other is one thing, them urging the population to murder everyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do is something else.
I also think that if you check this out you will find that the case in Brazil is purely personal, which means that trying to compare it to what happened in Turkey is a ............STRAWMAN.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/3/2017 12:43:20 PM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

You seem to have somewhat turned things upside down. Ministers protecting each other is one thing, them urging the population to murder everyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do is something else.
I also think that if you check this out you will find that the case in Brazil is purely personal, which means that trying to compare it to what happened in Turkey is a ............STRAWMAN.

If that's a strawman, why did you raise it over the thing in Brazil?

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 2:00:54 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 2:25:11 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

Mr Paisley said instead that they were fulfilling their duty as true Protestants and that their acts assured their status as privileged and loyal subjects of HM.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 3:07:56 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

Mr Paisley said instead that they were fulfilling their duty as true Protestants and that their acts assured their status as privileged and loyal subjects of HM.

Was this when the IRA was murdering people, including one member of the royal family? You think that as good Protestants it was their duty to just line up and die?
What is the duty of a citizen when someone is violently attacking your government?

And the incident in Brazil still has no bearing on this conversation.

Even with this he was saying they were fulfilling their political obligation, and I am reasonably sure he didn't promise them a special place in heaven.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 3:16:34 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

Mr Paisley said instead that they were fulfilling their duty as true Protestants and that their acts assured their status as privileged and loyal subjects of HM.

When were these statements made?

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 3:19:40 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

Mr Paisley said instead that they were fulfilling their duty as true Protestants and that their acts assured their status as privileged and loyal subjects of HM.

Was this when the IRA was murdering people, including one member of the royal family? You think that as good Protestants it was their duty to just line up and die?
What is the duty of a citizen when someone is violently attacking your government?

And the incident in Brazil still has no bearing on this conversation.

Is civil war or revenge killing the duty of a citizen? I do not think so. Do you miss a Northern Ireland body count? I don't - I am happy these days are over. May Paisley rest in peace - most of his lifetime he was not a man of peace at all.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 5:32:11 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

You seem to have somewhat turned things upside down. Ministers protecting each other is one thing, them urging the population to murder everyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do is something else.
I also think that if you check this out you will find that the case in Brazil is purely personal, which means that trying to compare it to what happened in Turkey is a ............STRAWMAN.

If that's a strawman, why did you raise it over the thing in Brazil?

Go back and read the thread, I didn't bring Brazil up, and I was pointing out one of the reasons that it had no part in the conversation.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/4/2017 5:34:27 AM   
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To the direct "point" of the post, while Brazil may be predominantly Catholic I doubt that any priest praised the killer as a hero.

Given that this was a tantrum over a domestic issue, rather than anything ideology driven, probably not.

If you're arguing that the only clerics who support violence are Moslems, though, I remember quite a lot of blatant and overt support for the republicans from the Catholic clergy during the troubles over here, and one of the loudest mouthpieces for the loyalists (Ian Paisely) being a Presbyterian minister.

I seriously doubt that Mr Paisley said that they were fulfilling their duty as Christians and that this act assured their place in Heaven.

Mr Paisley said instead that they were fulfilling their duty as true Protestants and that their acts assured their status as privileged and loyal subjects of HM.

Was this when the IRA was murdering people, including one member of the royal family? You think that as good Protestants it was their duty to just line up and die?
What is the duty of a citizen when someone is violently attacking your government?

And the incident in Brazil still has no bearing on this conversation.

Is civil war or revenge killing the duty of a citizen? I do not think so. Do you miss a Northern Ireland body count? I don't - I am happy these days are over. May Paisley rest in peace - most of his lifetime he was not a man of peace at all.

It takes two to make a war, it only takes one to make a slaughter.
No I did not miss the body count, and I am glad it is over.

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RE: Turkey: 39 Dead, 69 Wounded - 1/6/2017 7:07:17 AM   
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Turkey car bomb and gun attack on courthouse in Izmir

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38521549

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