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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 10:45:50 AM   
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So I presume you have given up, hence conceded your position that God is a criminal simply because God is the creator.

Right



Seems your position is indefensible, I keep waiting for you to level a defense and you dont, what else can anyone think?


Right, and you blame the victims for using their "free will" to go to the slaughter. Show me a location on earth where 7 billion people can go to be safe then. Explain how an infant or adult employs free will to contract painful and fatal brain cancer. Bah! Your point is idiotic.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 10:47:32 AM   
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Creationism that produces and promotes accounts of natural history that differ radically from conventional accounts—made up of so-called ‘biblical’ or ‘young-Earth’ creationists, ‘anti-evolutionists’ and ‘Flood geologists’—is herein called ‘theodicic creationism’.

As I said, a massive incompatibility.

But not with religion generally, just some odd types within a religion. Moreover, I fail to see a connection between any form of Creationism and the Theological problem of evil. But if you think you've got one, trot it out. Posting unsourced quotes won't do.

Oh fuck no, I sourced this earlier in this thread. Maybe you should pay attention.

Maybe if you posted it you could find it easily.

K.


It was posted. I am not your secretary. Google it.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 2:49:19 PM   
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Not in any sense in the real world regardless of surface, for instance, the genealogies that differ on Jesus from David on, in Matthew and in Luke.


"The Genealogies of Matthew and Luke"

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One of the charges of contradiction brought by skeptics against the Bible is the surface appearance of contradiction between Matthew’s genealogical list (1:1-17) and the one provided by Luke (3:23-38). As is always the case, the charge of contradiction is premature and reflects an immature appraisal of the extant evidence. In every case of alleged contradiction, further investigation has yielded additional evidence that exonerates the Bible and further verifies its inerrancy. The alleged discrepancies pertaining to Matthew and Luke’s genealogies were explained and answered long ago (e.g., Haley, 1977, pp. 325-326; McGarvey, 1910, pp. 344-346; McGarvey, 1974, pp. 51-55; cf. Lyons, 2003).

First, Matthew reported the lineage of Christ only back to Abraham; Luke traced it all the way back to Adam. Second, Matthew used the expression “begat;” Luke used the expression “son of,” which results in his list being a complete reversal of Matthew’s. Third, the two genealogical lines parallel each other from Abraham to David. Fourth, beginning with David, Matthew traced the paternal line of descent through Solomon; Luke traced the maternal line through Solomon’s brother, Nathan...


for the rest of the explanation, you can go here:

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=932





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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 3:46:51 PM   
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Dont be a fucking retard, dogshit44, there is no paternal line, unless Mary was a whore fucking everyone except old god with the magic fuckstick that one time, when she was drunk, and did him for free, a god have mercy fuck as it were. She should have blowed him, turns out you wouldnt felchgobble quite as i industriously.

You can have as many brothers fucking sisters and sons fucking mothers as you want, I have pointed out repeatedly that is in your nutsucker genalogies, but........Joseph ether fucked the shit out of her, and Yeshua ha'Notzri was a useless pill shill like your Jason Chaffetx, or Yeshua El Shaddai was a legalist like your Harry the closet Gowdy, beacuse god fucked her brains out, like the lousy whore she was, as a matter of Droit du seigneur. Ether way, the bible is wrong as is the genealogy.

there is no proof of this genealogy, I need more proof to prove my great grandfather who I actually knew. I have also pointed out that you are no xtian of any stripe, not even a Paulist (who was not an xtian) or a Peterist (also not an xtian).

Ruminate on this bit of asswipe in light of that... Therefore; a man shall leave his house and cling to his wife.. (and the hypocrisy that entails in this vignette)

Don't bother waltzing in here with your non-extant expertise on the matter, it is prima facie masturbation fantasy.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 3:56:12 PM   
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Dont be a fucking retard, dogshit44, there is no paternal line, unless Mary was a whore fucking everyone except old god with the magic fuckstick that one time, when she was drunk, and did him for free, a god have mercy fuck as it were. She should have blowed him, turns out you wouldnt felchgobble quite as i industriously.

You can have as many brothers fucking sisters and sons fucking mothers as you want, I have pointed out repeatedly that is in your nutsucker genalogies, but........Joseph ether fucked the shit out of her, and Yeshua ha'Notzri was a useless pill shill like your Jason Chaffetx, or Yeshua El Shaddai was a legalist like your Harry the closet Gowdy, beacuse god fucked her brains out, like the lousy whore she was, as a matter of Droit du seigneur. Ether way, the bible is wrong as is the genealogy.

there is no proof of this genealogy, I need more proof to prove my great grandfather who I actually knew. I have also pointed out that you are no xtian of any stripe, not even a Paulist (who was not an xtian) or a Peterist (also not an xtian).


Don't bother waltzing in here with your non-extant expertise on the matter, it is prima facie masturbation fantasy.


His link explains the significance of the paternal line.






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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 4:12:12 PM   
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No, it does not by MANY different measures. 1) IT DOES NOT MEET MINIMUM FACTUAL EVIDENCE. 2) IF YOU ARE RELATED TO JESUS, IT WOULD BE DOCUMENTED IN DETAIL. If there was a Jesus, it would be documented in detail.

Hell, just a bit of a fuck around here, but funny with the xtain apologists without a clue: Nqme me one fellow who is related to say, Mary Queen of Scots who is a carpenter in England.

There is no link that could say that Joseph would have any lineage in Jeebus. None. Not what the bible claims. A simple falsehood.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 4:30:34 PM   
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strange but any paternal "line" is questionable without DNA evidence.

Only the maternal line is unquestionable, well until you get into surrogates and baby stealing

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 4:34:08 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 7:58:01 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:01:36 PM   
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Right, and you blame the victims for using their "free will" to go to the slaughter.

In fairness, they thought they were going for a swim.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:11:24 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?



A quintessential example of the "tolerant left"



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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:31:26 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?

Nope. In the dictionary, under vile felchgobbler there is doghit44, doing his deep tonguing action. You are a vile and wholly disgusting motherfucker, shitbreather. Not to mention a fucking retard.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:32:31 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?



A quintessential example of the "tolerant left"



Michael


A quitenssential example of a stolen valor nutsucker and shiteater is what yolu are. I am not left and I dont tolerate toiletlicking shitbreathing stolen valor nutsuckers like you.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:34:32 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

You are a pretty stupid and leprous whore yourself. Sort of like a low life crackwhore.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 8:42:22 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

You are a pretty stupid and leprous whore yourself. Sort of like a low life crackwhore.


Oh my! That really hurt. Seriously though... i have no doubt you are intelligent but unfortunately that is covered over by the disgusting way you present yourself most of the time. Occassionally your reasonable side is allowed to present itself, but not very often. Which is probably very unfortunate for you.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 10:11:50 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

You are a pretty stupid and leprous whore yourself. Sort of like a low life crackwhore.


Oh my! That really hurt. Seriously though... i have no doubt you are intelligent but unfortunately that is covered over by the disgusting way you present yourself most of the time. Occassionally your reasonable side is allowed to present itself, but not very often. Which is probably very unfortunate for you.


Oh, Iam perfectly reasonable, religion cannot be at all correct (in any of them) because they are provably illogical and contradictory, I presented a simple contradiction. Science can disagree about inerpreting observable repeatable facts.

That is religion. Nutsuckers however like to spread factless felchgobbling in ubiquity.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 10:26:21 PM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

You are a pretty stupid and leprous whore yourself. Sort of like a low life crackwhore.


Oh my! That really hurt. Seriously though... i have no doubt you are intelligent but unfortunately that is covered over by the disgusting way you present yourself most of the time. Occassionally your reasonable side is allowed to present itself, but not very often. Which is probably very unfortunate for you.


Oh, Iam perfectly reasonable, religion cannot be at all correct (in any of them) because they are provably illogical and contradictory, I presented a simple contradiction. Science can disagree about inerpreting observable repeatable facts.

That is religion. Nutsuckers however like to spread factless felchgobbling in ubiquity.


I am not arguing whether you are right or wrong. I just don't understand why you can't communicate clearly like a man as you just did (minus the felchgobbling crap).

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/14/2017 10:29:55 PM   
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crashing again

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/15/2017 5:54:12 AM   
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have you ever come across a more vile character?


Actually, no Sir, i haven't. It's like a gross mad demon.

You are a pretty stupid and leprous whore yourself. Sort of like a low life crackwhore.


Oh my! That really hurt. Seriously though... i have no doubt you are intelligent but unfortunately that is covered over by the disgusting way you present yourself most of the time. Occassionally your reasonable side is allowed to present itself, but not very often. Which is probably very unfortunate for you.


Oh, Iam perfectly reasonable, religion cannot be at all correct (in any of them) because they are provably illogical and contradictory, I presented a simple contradiction. Science can disagree about inerpreting observable repeatable facts.

That is religion. Nutsuckers however like to spread factless felchgobbling in ubiquity.


I am not arguing whether you are right or wrong. I just don't understand why you can't communicate clearly like a man as you just did (minus the felchgobbling crap).


I clearly communicate that felchgobblers are felchgobblers. I dont understand how that is not clear.

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RE: Are Science and Religion incompatible? - 1/15/2017 5:55:19 AM   
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crashing again

Have they changed your meds again, is that why you are crashing?

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