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California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/6/2017 5:15:14 PM

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The kind of thing you get when you vote Democrat

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...The daughter of Quine's victim said she objects to inmates getting taxpayer-funded surgery that is not readily available to non-criminals, regardless of the cost.

"My dad begged for his life," said Farida Baig, who tried unsuccessfully to block Quine's surgery through the courts. "It just made me dizzy and sick. I'm helping pay for his surgery; I live in California. It's kind of like a slap in the face."

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/6/2017 5:42:33 PM

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The kind of thing you get when you vote Democrat

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...The daughter of Quine's victim said she objects to inmates getting taxpayer-funded surgery that is not readily available to non-criminals, regardless of the cost.

"My dad begged for his life," said Farida Baig, who tried unsuccessfully to block Quine's surgery through the courts. "It just made me dizzy and sick. I'm helping pay for his surgery; I live in California. It's kind of like a slap in the face."

You still felchgobbling because they wouldnt let you nutsuckers install bathtubs in the public waters?

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/7/2017 12:59:44 PM

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I admit I don't get the whole transgender thing.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 4:25:49 AM

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I read about this quite some time ago. Most likely, hopefully it is the taxpayers of California paying for this.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 6:24:43 AM

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I admit I don't get the whole transgender thing.

Maybe he'd feel safer in a female prison population than the male one.

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Quine will be moved to a women's prison after the operation, which was performed at a hospital in San Francisco, her attorneys said.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 7:09:20 AM

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Happens over here all the time, and we have the loony right in at the moment creating carnage and utter fucking chaos. As WM infers some cynics say, in some instances, its to get better cells, privacy, cushy number, locked up in a women’s prison.

But prey tell me where the Democarrots enter this narrative – or is your halfwit of a brain inferring its some diabolical democrat conspiracy to ~~turn~~ gender reassign men into feminists – heh where’s RM when you need him

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 7:12:31 AM

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To be fair, there's quite a few serial killers who definitely had serious gender issues: Ed Gein and Albert Fish are the two most obvious examples who spring to mind offhand. Doesn't look like anything of the sort applies in this case, though.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 9:07:16 AM

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We are designed differently - rainbow easy enough word/analogy to use....But so few people understand that, our core programming. So someone wants to wear a dress you worked out what video clip is coming WM before you finish reading this.. Some one wants to change gender with - without the drugs & surgery - shrugs i understand..the problem with that statement it explains the other ones I dont like talking about. But that is how humanity is programmed

Should the tax payer pay - well you either treat them like the animals they are - this makes you know better - or you treat them humanely...now here me out with that simple statement who is responsible for the most deaths and why...but that leads onto the usual philosophical moral debates...or i heard the voice of god and he made me do it - now in days of olde there are many prophets, even a whole religion, or several dedicated to that rationale.

WM dont know serial killers I tend not to read up on them - less they pop in a film or book :)

Robert Rankin did one of his books on James Tilly Mathews didnt he...and patient zero, bedlam, which is called, or was, st marys the first asylum..will hit post now as my pc tnd to crash 2 times day

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I wonder, from time to time, how many Americans have been put to sleep via their justice system and how many were actually innocent

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 5:34:28 PM

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A 57-year-old convicted killer serving a life sentence in California became the first U.S. inmate to receive state-funded sex-reassignment surgery, the prisoner's attorneys confirmed Friday to The Associated Press.

California prison officials agreed in August 2015 to pay for the surgery for Shiloh Heavenly Quine, who was convicted of first-degree murder, kidnapping and robbery for ransom and has no possibility of parole.

WOW this is horrible! There gotta be better uses for taxpayers money like for what is medically necessary.

Gender Change is completely unnecessary! WTF!

And his a criminal!

And I can't believe they used his depression as an excuse to fund this. Like HELLO!!! It's Prison. Who wouldn't be depressed trapped in there. They are suppose to be miserable in there!

So what's next? The next suicidal prisoner, set them free? This dude should have been put to death. First degree murder! Who cares if he kills himself.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 5:42:41 PM

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This, from the state that the alt left would give overwhelming power in choosing our presidents

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 6:02:53 PM

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AltLeft:
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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 8:53:31 PM

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The crime happened in 1980. The killer was 20 years old then. Now he is 57. Maybe if his dick had been removed and estrogen hormone therapy had been applied when he was 18 he would not have committed a violent crime. However, it is a mote point at age 57 since he is not likely to be on the streets again. But it does have a humane dimension, I believe.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 9:19:10 PM

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Why is it that the looney Right gets its jollies by paying out on the powerless?

It's hard to think of a more powerless or marginalised person than a TG prisoner serving a life or very long sentence. But that doesn't stop our resident looney Right-wingers paying out on someone who has no chance of defending themselves or answering back.

Such paragons of courage they are. Heroes indeed.
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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 9:34:40 PM

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it is ridiculous for the state to pay for anyone's sex change, let alone a killer's. if the scumbag had penile cancer, or any cancer, oh even a headache, i'd say sure, cut his dick off. What's next? Liposuction, nose jobs, tummy tucks and scrotum de-wrinkling? Maybe penis enlarging, their dicks are probably miniscule. That would be a great use for public money. This boy's cock should have been removed 37 years ago, and fed to the prison guard dogs or the homeless. Balls too, while they're at it, remove the whole damn package----its nothing but junk anyway. (pun intended)

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 9:46:59 PM

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Why is it that the looney Right gets its jollies by paying out on the powerless?

It's hard to think of a more powerless or marginalised person than a TG prisoner serving a life or very long sentence. But that doesn't stop our resident looney Right-wingers paying out on someone who has no chance of defending themselves or answering back.

Such paragons of courage they are. Heroes indeed.
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He KILLED someone. Or did you miss that ? I think the dead person is a bit more marginalised.

Personally, whenever there is no doubt about a murder there would be an execution. Either that or you can put tem up at your house. How would you like that ?

Are you seriously saying that someone who objects to this elective procedure that most people cannot afford should be awarded free of charge because he killed someone, is looney ?

Now THAT is what's looney.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 9:50:01 PM

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The crime happened in 1980. The killer was 20 years old then. Now he is 57. Maybe if his dick had been removed and estrogen hormone therapy had been applied when he was 18 he would not have committed a violent crime. However, it is a mote point at age 57 since he is not likely to be on the streets again. But it does have a humane dimension, I believe.

I bet it has a dimension to the family of the person he killed.

Again, if there is no doubt there should have been an execution.

Look, when they remove a tumor or something from your body do you mourn its right to life ? It is only trying to consume you and survive. C'mon, have a little compassion, you know YOU created those errant cells.

So, in the name of compassion for tumors we need to stop all cancer treatments. They are inhumane to the cancer.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 10:46:54 PM

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it is ridiculous for the state to pay for anyone's sex change, let alone a killer's. if the scumbag had penile cancer, or any cancer, oh even a headache, i'd say sure, cut his dick off. What's next? Liposuction, nose jobs, tummy tucks and scrotum de-wrinkling? Maybe penis enlarging, their dicks are probably miniscule. That would be a great use for public money. This boy's cock should have been removed 37 years ago, and fed to the prison guard dogs or the homeless. Balls too, while they're at it, remove the whole damn package----its nothing but junk anyway. (pun intended)

first u say its ridiculous for the state for his parts removed - then want the prison to remove his parts.......

Well, technically he's getting his pecker/balls cut off.... so ur getting all that u just asked for...... they ARE going to "remove the whole damn package"

So what's the problem about the PUBLIC paid for STATE PRISON doing JUST what u wanted???

(BTW...feeding his parts to the homeless is illegal cannibalism .....just say'n.)

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 10:54:13 PM

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Just a quick thought, here:

The "state" isn't paying for a fucking thing; taxpayers are. Some are people that vehemently object to this kind of procedure, to begin with.

"Government" pays for NOTHING. WE pay for it.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 11:02:46 PM

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Why is it that the looney Right gets its jollies by paying out on the powerless?

It's hard to think of a more powerless or marginalised person than a TG prisoner serving a life or very long sentence. But that doesn't stop our resident looney Right-wingers paying out on someone who has no chance of defending themselves or answering back.

Such paragons of courage they are. Heroes indeed.
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He KILLED someone. Or did you miss that ? I think the dead person is a bit more marginalised.

No I didn't miss that. Nor did I miss the fact that Quine appears to have spent 37 years in prison already. I have no idea of the facts of the case, nor do I see how they are relevant to this discussion.

Either the surgery is medically mandated or not. If it is, then it's wholly appropriate for it to be provided to long term prisoners. It the surgery isn't medically mandated, then there's no issue. This is a medical issue not a legal or incarceration related issue.

If society chooses to lock people up for life, then society is obliged to take care of their legitimate medical needs. Simples.

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RE: California Funds Killer's Sex Reassignment - 1/8/2017 11:44:32 PM

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Just a quick thought, here:

The "state" isn't paying for a fucking thing; taxpayers are. Some are people that vehemently object to this kind of procedure, to begin with.

"Government" pays for NOTHING. WE pay for it.

Michael

ah hey? ..... the last I looked as an American WE give the government Tax money to do OUR bidding.
SOOOOOO WEEEEE are the Government.
So unless ur ur own island, so are u. ya know,,,,,,,That whole "We the people" thing...Some are people that vehemently approve of this kind of procedure, to begin with.

Like Me.
I don't fancy it for Myself...but I feel if others strongly identify as another sex than what they were born as, they should be it.

considering ur politics Im not surprised ur in general wanting people to be unhappy with whom they are.

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