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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/12/2017 1:44:38 PM

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And if/when you get one of those malicious emails??
Just opening it will trigger the trojan and you won't necessarily know about it.

I always surf in a sandbox, so most of those are not an issue.

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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/12/2017 2:24:28 PM

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And if/when you get one of those malicious emails??
Just opening it will trigger the trojan and you won't necessarily know about it.

I always surf in a sandbox, so most of those are not an issue.

In the demo that BBC Click used - they were in a sandbox too.
It didn't save the native machine - it was wrecked in 20 seconds.
Most of the OS was wiped and they couldn't boot the machine.
It wasn't recoverable at all.
The only way out was to flatline the hard drive and start again, from scratch.
What's worse is that the trojan had installed itself into the boot access sector of other hard drives in the system.
That means it reared its ugly head the moment you accessed any of the other hard drives.

And incidentally, they did it on a Linux system too - same effect.

A sandbox only works to protect you if the program uses the OS to access what is on the system.
If it uses the BIOS directly, a sandbox is useless and won't protect you one jot.
That's because a sandbox, to the BIOS, is just another OS file.
The BIOS works directly on blocks, sectors etc - it has no idea what the OS is and doesn't care.
It can distinguish certain partitions, physical drives; but everything else is down to the OS to interpret for itself.

So no, you aren't good to go if you get one of these.
If you open it, preview it, skim over it.... you're doomed; sandbox or not.
Obviously not all trojans are like this, some just track you and your activities.
And once they have your info, tracked from inside your sandbox, you are at their mercy.
How does that work??
Very simply because you give your sandbox program access to the internet to surf and deal with emails etc.
And that's all they need. Devilishly ingenious and potentially very harmful.

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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/12/2017 5:24:56 PM

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Dead easy.

You can have hidden attachments (as Jeff said).
Sometimes the email itself has hidden worms/trackers/malware (I said that in post#8).

But this is a web-based email. So how can opening a web based email have hidden attachments?

You are saying just logging into your web-based email account through their website, and opening to read the email without downloading any attachments will somehow cause your computer to get infected? The whole point of web based email is so that nothing gets downloaded or stored in your computer.

IF this was outlook, perhaps the email needed to be downloaded on your computer, and that made sense.

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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/12/2017 6:39:42 PM

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Dead easy.

You can have hidden attachments (as Jeff said).
Sometimes the email itself has hidden worms/trackers/malware (I said that in post#8).

But this is a web-based email. So how can opening a web based email have hidden attachments?

You are saying just logging into your web-based email account through their website, and opening to read the email without downloading any attachments will somehow cause your computer to get infected? The whole point of web based email is so that nothing gets downloaded or stored in your computer.

IF this was outlook, perhaps the email needed to be downloaded on your computer, and that made sense.

You have no clue what active x is, do you?

Ever hit a web page and get a window pop up telling you something needs to be loaded for the webpage to work?

That is but one form of active x.

However, active x does not always notify you that it is downloading anything. It all depends on how the code is written.

Which is why I have active x disabled in my web browsers, and any other web based application.

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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/13/2017 4:24:45 AM

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Ever hit a web page and get a window pop up telling you something needs to be loaded for the webpage to work?

Actually. NEVER.
Maybe I just don't go to webpages that has these pop ups.

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RE: Looks like adultfriendfinder been hacked - 1/13/2017 8:48:20 AM

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Oh dear me, I guess i should just never open any emails at all.
Maybe Trump was right and we need to go back to using couriers.

smh

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