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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:51:07 AM   
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FW I actually once asked if Obama actually managed to pass anything - I am none of the wiser. Now if that is the case, in that he passed nothing, the republicans describe him as an absolute failure. Then surely his failure is down to that rabble of misfits and baskets cases.

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:51:46 AM   
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Perhaps you should tell Wiki and a few other sites who make this quote.


Believe what you want, you are a moron and I cant change that

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:53:52 AM   
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Sounds like Trump dont he guffaws and by he I mean bosocx to save on any confusion....does your Pinko mad master Elect keep you in a cage. Do you know i actually imagine BoscoX in cage masterbating furiously as he types his excited slobberings...oh come on it cant just be me who thinks this?



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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:54:34 AM   
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FW I actually once asked if Obama actually managed to pass anything - I am non of the wiser. Now if that is the case, in that he passed nothing, the republicans describe him as an absolute failure. Then surely his failure is down to that rabble of misfits and baskets cases.



Obama had full control of both houses for a while, could have done practically anything

He chose to improve his golf score, and pass a healthcare bill that enraged half of the country to the point they took Congress away from him

Blame that on the Republicans if you want, but that only makes you as big a moron as all of the other alt left snakes and morons on here

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:58:56 AM   
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Sounds like Trump dont he guffaws




Thank you

Thank you very much



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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 8:59:05 AM   
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Weird thing about Real0ne: the whole time there was a Democrat in office he was posting about FEMA deathcamps, enforced gun control, Obama being Israel's bitch (despite being a moslem who wants to impose sharia law), anything at all that the Federal government does (or tries to do and has blocked) being an unconsitutional "fuck you!" to the founding fathers, armed camps full of fuckwits who refuse to pay to graze their cattle on land they don't own being truer Americans than anybody who draws a wage from the Fed, and other such Denialican stuff.
Then as soon as the Republicans elect a president, he's all for government powers, even when they appear to be flying in the face of stuff he had against the other guy. I doubt he'd have been all chipper and cheery about Obama appointing a whole cabinet from his cronies and creditors unvetted, put it that way.
I wonder what has brought this curious change in his attitude on?

BTW did you complain when Obama skipped congress and unilaterally changed both the ACA and immigration law?

So skipping congress now involves a lengthy process of bending over backwards to accommodate the Republicans in Congress by stuffing legislation with amendments to humour them, and then resorting to an EO because they still won't approve it even after they've pretty much rewritten the whole thing from the ground up, then?
Cute!

Does that mean you thought it was just fine when Obama did it but it is terrible if Trump does it?
And we have no proof that Trump will bypass Congress.
So far he is just making a suggestion.
BTW the president has always had to work with Congress and Obama was re-writing the ACA while he still had the majority in both houses.
You seem to think that the president should issue EOs to rule if congress doesn't do what he (or she) wants. By that "logic" maybe we shoul just get rid of congress.

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:00:27 AM   
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Obama had full control of both houses for a while then prey/pray enlighten a simple one such as I with more than a jobbie http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jobbie

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:09:23 AM   
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Ah Elvis whats me favorite - might be this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RyRfWBKe0o
train-wreck
or is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-udTHfAz4Vo

Wonders if Trump was ever in Nam

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:17:22 AM   
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And Lucy forgot to mention that Obamacare was passed in the middle of the night on Christmas eve when no one was looking.

And as far as plans to replace it with, stop watching CBS, NBS, ABS, MSLSD, CNN, or any of the other fake news organizations and do some research on your own. Lots of options instead of government fucking up the best healthcare system on the planet.

except you dont have the best healthcare system on the planet
that is plainly wrong.

It was passed in the senate on christmas eve, correct, but not in the middle of the night. with no one looking because 39 repubs voted against it.
It passed the house November 7, 2009 on a 220 – 215
They were reconciled and Obama signed it March 23rd 2010
Facts
you clearly dont understand them





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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:20:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
Perhaps you should tell Wiki and a few other sites who make this quote.


Okay, so you two are having a spat about wording.

The Senate passed their version of a bill on 12/24/2009, while they had 60 votes (58 D's and 2 I's) they could count on. Sen. Kennedy had passed the previous September, so there was a placeholder until an election could be run for his replacement. In January 2010, Scott Brown won the election for the late Sen. Kennedy's seat, giving the GOP 41 Senate seats, ensuring they could block any legislation requiring the full 60 aye votes.

But, since the House and Senate passed two different versions, there wasn't a mutually agreed upon version to send to the President (the House requires only a simple majority to pass legislation). The President and Democrats got together and decided the House would hold a vote to pass the Senate's version, so as to not require another vote in the Senate. That passed 219-212 (34 D's voted against). No Republican Senator or Representative voted in favor of the PPACA.

So, the main issue with passage of Obamacare was the 12/24/2009 vote for passage in the Senate. The House didn't vote on passage of the Senate version until March 21, 2010, and the President signed it into law 2 days later.

So, yes, it was enacted on 3/23/2010, but the claim of passage on Christmas Eve was correct, but the claim of "middle of the night" was incorrect (the vote started at 7:05am).

For all intents and purposes, the Senate's vote on Christmas Eve 2009 was the main hurdle, though, technically, the PPACA wasn't enacted until 3/2010.


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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:20:53 AM   
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Sounds like Trump dont he guffaws and by he I mean bosocx to save on any confusion....does your Pinko mad master Elect keep you in a cage. Do you know i actually imagine BoscoX in cage masterbating furiously as he types his excited slobberings...oh come on it cant just be me who thinks this?



If I thought about that WD, I would never post again...

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:33:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Sounds like Trump dont he guffaws and by he I mean bosocx to save on any confusion....does your Pinko mad master Elect keep you in a cage. Do you know i actually imagine BoscoX in cage masterbating furiously as he types his excited slobberings...oh come on it cant just be me who thinks this?



If I thought about that WD, I would never post again...


This kind of thing is all you losers got, every day, every debate

On a kink site, you post images that scream faggot

You, even your alt left media types pretend that President Trump enjoys golden showers

You don't like a female posters views so you post that she was a prostitute at a young age

This is typical of the alt left

And you wonder why you lose elections...

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 9:48:49 AM   
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Note how it devolves unto its true format - gibbering incomprehension...I am fuking telling you its Trumps witter spokeman

oh come on you are on your knees masturbating furiously as you reply to one of mine...you dont to me wifey2 how dare thee

give me a kiss feeble cock one and declare me god big small boy



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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:02:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
Note how it devolves unto its true format - gibbering incomprehension




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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:17:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You seem to think that the president should issue EOs to rule if congress doesn't do what he (or she) wants. By that "logic" maybe we shoul just get rid of congress.

I don't, but Reagan, both Bushes and Ford did.
They'd have been quite happy to get rid of congress as well, I suspect.

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:34:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Sounds like Trump dont he guffaws and by he I mean bosocx to save on any confusion....does your Pinko mad master Elect keep you in a cage. Do you know i actually imagine BoscoX in cage masterbating furiously as he types his excited slobberings...oh come on it cant just be me who thinks this?



If I thought about that WD, I would never post again...


This kind of thing is all you losers got, every day, every debate

On a kink site, you post images that scream faggot

You, even your alt left media types pretend that President Trump enjoys golden showers

You don't like a female posters views so you post that she was a prostitute at a young age

This is typical of the alt left

And you wonder why you lose elections...

I enjoy homosexual erotica, I love many gay men I happen to be mostly pansexual, thats why Im on a kink site, I see nothing wrong with it, sadly its you that has that rail tie in your eye. not me... it upsets you because you are afraid of it.
Im not.


I didnt mention her being a hooker or a prostitute, and especially not her age.... not once.









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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:41:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You seem to think that the president should issue EOs to rule if congress doesn't do what he (or she) wants. By that "logic" maybe we shoul just get rid of congress.

I don't, but Reagan, both Bushes and Ford did.
They'd have been quite happy to get rid of congress as well, I suspect.

Pure fantasy.

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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:41:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Note how it devolves unto its true format - gibbering incomprehension...I am fuking telling you its Trumps witter spokeman

oh come on you are on your knees masturbating furiously as you reply to one of mine...you dont to me wifey2 how dare thee

give me a kiss feeble cock one and declare me god big small boy




stop sniffin the cat litter....lmao


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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 10:42:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
You seem to think that the president should issue EOs to rule if congress doesn't do what he (or she) wants. By that "logic" maybe we shoul just get rid of congress.

I don't, but Reagan, both Bushes and Ford did.
They'd have been quite happy to get rid of congress as well, I suspect.

Pure fantasy.



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RE: Trump, not Congress, will re-write ObamaCare - 1/14/2017 11:18:05 AM   
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Weird thing about Real0ne: the whole time there was a Democrat in office he was posting about FEMA deathcamps, enforced gun control, Obama being Israel's bitch (despite being a moslem who wants to impose sharia law), anything at all that the Federal government does (or tries to do and has blocked) being an unconsitutional "fuck you!" to the founding fathers, armed camps full of fuckwits who refuse to pay to graze their cattle on land they don't own being truer Americans than anybody who draws a wage from the Fed, and other such Denialican stuff.
Then as soon as the Republicans elect a president, he's all for government powers, even when they appear to be flying in the face of stuff he had against the other guy. I doubt he'd have been all chipper and cheery about Obama appointing a whole cabinet from his cronies and creditors unvetted, put it that way.
I wonder what has brought this curious change in his attitude on?

BTW did you complain when Obama skipped congress and unilaterally changed both the ACA and immigration law?

So skipping congress now involves a lengthy process of bending over backwards to accommodate the Republicans in Congress by stuffing legislation with amendments to humour them, and then resorting to an EO because they still won't approve it even after they've pretty much rewritten the whole thing from the ground up, then?
Cute!

Does that mean you thought it was just fine when Obama did it but it is terrible if Trump does it?
And we have no proof that Trump will bypass Congress.
So far he is just making a suggestion.
BTW the president has always had to work with Congress and Obama was re-writing the ACA while he still had the majority in both houses.
You seem to think that the president should issue EOs to rule if congress doesn't do what he (or she) wants. By that "logic" maybe we shoul just get rid of congress.

Well, Trump's approval rating is only 37% (Obama's is 55%), but Congress' is even lower, ranging from 11%-16%.

So getting rid of Congress could be a consideration for many folks.

Especially this "we're not going to hold SC hearings" crap. We need a new rule -- you have 30 days to do your job, and if you can't or won't, you're out and a special election is held.

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