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Greta75 -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 9:26:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
It was PLANNED under Obama.
He didn't approve it.

Obama did approve it. The orders was to wait until a moon-less night to execute. So by the time the moon-less night happen, he is no longer President.


Lies.

Obama did not approve it.

They required a moonless night, but they weren't simply waiting for one. They also required more intelligence that was not available when Trump recklessly approved it, telling them to go ahead.

http://nypost.com/2017/02/02/after-obama-waited-trump-quickly-approved-botched-navy-seal-mission/

According to your link! It IS because of the moon-less night!

One aspect of the plan that gave Obama pause was the need for a moonless night so the SEALs would be camouflaged by the cover of night, as they were during Saturday’s raid on the al Qaeda headquarters in the town of Al Bayda, the network said.

And for anybody who hypocritically crying about Americans dying in a terrorist fight. Soldiers die in war! It's part of war! And if the terrorists wife and kids died in the raid. That's their problem for keeping their wife and kids with them in a war zone.

Bengazi was WORST since innocent American civilian died.

And I don't see the lefties crying about that. Wasn't it like 4 innocent American civilian died?




heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 9:38:12 PM)

ONE aspect, Greta... ONE.

Yes, soldiers and civilians die in war... but they are MUCH MORE LIKELY TO DIE WHEN THE PLAN IS SHIT.

Nobody is defending Benghazi.



BamaD -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 9:50:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

ONE aspect, Greta... ONE.

Yes, soldiers and civilians die in war... but they are MUCH MORE LIKELY TO DIE WHEN THE PLAN IS SHIT.

Nobody is defending Benghazi.

If you don't think anyone has been defending Benghazi you haven't been paying attention.
Do you know exactly what the plan was? You would have to be privy to the details to know it was shit.
What you know is that it was messy an ugly, news flash, war is ugly and messy innocents get hurt, they even die. We don't even know which side actually killed the innocents, one of the many things tat you don't understand is that in virtually every engagement people get hit by "friendly" fire. More often by terroists than by seals. Maybe you should trash the terrorists for using human shields.



Real0ne -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 9:52:41 PM)

wow be careful because those al Qaeda's may be hiding under your bed.



Lucylastic -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 10:25:45 PM)

U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.
not a moonless night...

of course nobody does more intelligence or checking between jan 6th and 28th, Trump thought he could use Obamas plan and take the credit...
but
didnt happen that way...



heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 10:48:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
wow be careful because those al Qaeda's may be hiding under your bed.


This weird attempt at an insult is in no way connected to anything that I have been saying.



heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/5/2017 10:56:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If you don't think anyone has been defending Benghazi you haven't been paying attention.
Do you know exactly what the plan was? You would have to be privy to the details to know it was shit.


I honestly don't give a shit about FOX news conspiracy theories and even you should be able to tell the difference between responding to an unforeseeable attack and executing an attack that has been planned for months.



Greta75 -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:04:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.
not a moonless night...

of course nobody does more intelligence or checking between jan 6th and 28th, Trump thought he could use Obamas plan and take the credit...
but
didnt happen that way...

1 American died and 14 terrorists was killed.

Is it really a failed operation?

I guess if we want zero human casualties, then the only way is the keep sending drones and blindly dropping bombs.

And yes, The Obama administration has the same military intelligence formulating this plan right?

So why shouldn't Trump go ahead and execute Obama's plan?

Without consulting further?



Real0ne -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:05:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
wow be careful because those al Qaeda's may be hiding under your bed.


This weird attempt at an insult is in no way connected to anything that I have been saying.



feel free to tell yourself whatever makes you happy.



Real0ne -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:07:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.
not a moonless night...

of course nobody does more intelligence or checking between jan 6th and 28th, Trump thought he could use Obamas plan and take the credit...
but
didnt happen that way...

1 American died and 14 terrorists was killed.

Is it really a failed operation?

I guess if we want zero human casualties, then the only way is the keep sending drones and blindly dropping bombs.

And yes, The Obama administration has the same military intelligence formulating this plan right?

So why shouldn't Trump go ahead and execute Obama's plan?

Without consulting further?



another way is to not tread on and shit all over them, but we are 50 years too late.



heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:10:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
wow be careful because those al Qaeda's may be hiding under your bed.


This weird attempt at an insult is in no way connected to anything that I have been saying.



feel free to tell yourself whatever makes you happy.


Please tell me how anything I've said connects in any way to paranoia about Al Qaeda.



Greta75 -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:25:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
another way is to not tread on and shit all over them, but we are 50 years too late.

I meant zero human casualties to Team America.

Not to the Terrorist side.

But I remembered during GWB time, the man keeps getting accused of dropping bombs on innocent civilians Muslims who were not terrorists.

But I assume if a Terrorist is thought to be living in a certain village or area. And there could be many women and children.

And it's either send a ground squad in to execute that person, who will use women and children as human shield anyway.

Or send drones and just drop bombs, which will kill all the women and children anyway.

War sucks.



Real0ne -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 12:26:22 AM)

generally, not specifically 'that' post



heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 3:24:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
generally, not specifically 'that' post


Oh right because I'm constantly talking about terrorists being everywhere.
You're really confused.



heavyblinker -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 4:37:37 AM)

Ned Price insists on Twitter that the mission was never presented to or considered by the Obama administration at all.

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/827213843071901696

Trump owns the process and the ultimate decision.
It's 100% on him.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/trump-obama-security-blanket/?iid=ob_lockedrail_topeditorial



mnottertail -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 5:00:07 AM)

The citizen murderer-in-chief fucked up a little, thats all.



Musicmystery -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 8:26:36 AM)

Fucked up a lot, that's what.

And others paid for his recklessness.



SecondBestBoy -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 2:50:05 PM)

When do the $14 Million congressional hearings on this start? Oh, wait, Hillary Clinton not involved. Nevermind.



BamaD -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 2:50:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
If you don't think anyone has been defending Benghazi you haven't been paying attention.
Do you know exactly what the plan was? You would have to be privy to the details to know it was shit.


I honestly don't give a shit about FOX news conspiracy theories and even you should be able to tell the difference between responding to an unforeseeable attack and executing an attack that has been planned for months.

If the attack was unforseeable why did the ambassador make over 100 request for more security do to the danger of attack, why did all of the other embassies close due to impending attacks, and you forget that there had been other embassies attacked in the area earlier in the week. BTW you are defending Benghazi.



mnottertail -> RE: Buffoon-in-Chief goes w/o intel, kills SEAL, 15 women/children, $70m helicopter (2/6/2017 3:10:16 PM)

because he was dealing with nutsuckers.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/rep-chaffetz-says-he-absolutely-cut-funding-for-embassy-security/



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