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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:03:11 PM   
thompsonx


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haven't read this yet:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/17/trumps-war-with-the-media-isnt-new-thomas-jefferson-railed-about-newspaper-lies-too/

You should because it draws many prescient parallels between dumb don and t.j.
Both were always busy spending other peoples money.
Both would throw their best friend under ther bus if it were to advance their personal fortunes.
Both fathered a bastard.
Both were attracted to 13 year old girls.
One was a known rapist the other is an accused rapist.
Both would tell a lie when the truth was a better story.
Both lacked the balls to put on a uniform and carry a gun in the defense of their ideals.
Both were athiest.
Both were excoriated by the press for their shananigans.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:03:48 PM   
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vilifying the press isn't a first step, its simply vilifying the press. your premise is because he's the president, he shouldn't be allowed to do that?

There is a difference between criticizing the press and vilifying it and so no, a president should not be allowed to vilify the press.

And yes, if you look at history, vilification is a first step toward an action against something.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:04:33 PM   
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Deep gurgling felching.

So, do you have any citations, evidence or proof, because felchgobbling is only for retards, such as yourself and your circlefelch. Intelligent people dont bother with feebleminded asswipe such as you commerce in.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:06:24 PM   
bounty44


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Media bias is real, finds UCLA political scientist

Conservatives are right: The news media is very liberal

The Liberal Media Exposed - mrc.org

Shocker: Media Apparatchiks Overwhelmingly Vote Democrat

if you were anything other than a leftie, would you think the media was dealing with you objectively?

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:08:30 PM   
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Now you are just a liar, anyone can follow a link idiot.

Yep, I thought so but it seems that you can't do it and as I said; "Personal insults are the last resort of those who run out of valid arguments."
;-)

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:14:14 PM   
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vilifying the press isn't a first step, its simply vilifying the press. your premise is because he's the president, he shouldn't be allowed to do that?

There is a difference between criticizing the press and vilifying it and so no, a president should not be allowed to vilify the press.

And yes, if you look at history, vilification is a first step toward an action against something.



great---have congress make a law curtailing the presidents' speech. remind me again that liberals like the 1st amendment?

that said, there's a difference between necessary and sufficient steps.

vilification can be simply vilification. it's debatable whether or not its a necessary step en route to the demise of the press, but at the very least, its not a sufficient one---at least to those of us, again, who aren't chicken little liberals.

that is, whatever trump says about the press is not automatically going to lead to whatever a next step could/would be.

when reporters start getting assassinated, press buildings are shuttered or financially ruined through government oppression, the government starts buying newspapers, etc---then we have a problem.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:15:13 PM   
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Veteran WaPo Reporter Admits MSM’s Bias Is ‘Overwhelmingly Left'

Media bias is real, finds UCLA political scientist

Conservatives are right: The news media is very liberal

The Liberal Media Exposed - mrc.org

Shocker: Media Apparatchiks Overwhelmingly Vote Democrat

if you were anything other than a leftie, would you think the media was dealing with you objectively?

Nothing shocking here, first these liberals work, nutusuckers are on welfare. Second, they are dealing objectively with the nutsuckers, the factless felchgobbling nutsucker slobberblogs are billed as entertainment to keep them from the laws libel statutes.



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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:19:17 PM   
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Now you are just a liar, anyone can follow a link idiot.

Yep, I thought so but it seems that you can't do it and as I said; "Personal insults are the last resort of those who run out of valid arguments."
;-)



Yeah... Try not to melt

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:21:25 PM   
Milesnmiles


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It was you who claimed that the president "vilifies" the media like Obama did

I don't believe I ever said Obama vilified the media, maybe in your alt universe I did.

You see there is difference between criticizing and vilifying.

Pointing out errors that have been made in an attempt to correct them is criticizing, just calling the press fake news is vilification.
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Do you even have a point
Ever
Do you?

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:27:53 PM   
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It was you who claimed that the president "vilifies" the media like Obama did

I don't believe I ever said Obama vilified the media, maybe in your alt universe I did.

You see there is difference between criticizing and vilifying.

Pointing out errors that have been made in an attempt to correct them is criticizing, just calling the press fake news is vilification.
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Do you even have a point
Ever
Do you?



What a tool

When a D does it its' "criticizing" them

When an R does it it's "vilifying" them

Do you know what a tool you are

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:34:51 PM   
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if you were anything other than a leftie, would you think the media was dealing with you objectively?
The problem is in thinking there is such a thing as objective media.

Personally, I listen to the Russian, French, Japanese and British news and compare them to the "American" news in order to try and get an objective picture of what is going on in the world.

Even then I take it all with a grain of common sense because everyone in the media has an agenda, mostly to make money and stay on the air.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:52:02 PM   
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~FR

A free and challenging Press is the bedrock of a democracy. Shame on people who accept Der Trumpf's continued attacks without question.

Are the unions next?


Obama attacked the media, moron

And the unions have been siding with President Trump of late

Keep swinging though...

Going after specific crimes and their accomplices is calling the press the enemy of the people ?

Never ends on how all of that was just fine and the right blamed Obama for not being tough enough and now you equate it with a wholesale denigration of the press. That's unmitigated bullshit and you know it.

I feel soon, everybody who opposes Trump and maybe the right too, will...all be called traitors. Then we'll know the is Germany 1930's.

Oh and the unions are hoodwinked if they think for a second Trump will help them at all except get govt. (taxes) to pay to keep what little wages and benefits a few hundred of them have left after 40 years of the right doing all they can to destroy them.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:55:40 PM   
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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 4:56:11 PM   
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God bless President Trump.

Well according to Jesus, he'll never make it heaven.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:01:09 PM   
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great---have congress make a law curtailing the presidents' speech.

Only a fascist would sugest such a thing. Comrade tell us you ain't serious.



remind me again that liberals like the 1st amendment?

Comrade bounty, liberals are not the only ones who like the first ammendment.
We realize you have posted comments advocating curtailing/limiting the first ammendment but then you could hardly be considered a conservative.




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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:06:29 PM   
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Obama attacked the media, moron

I don't know what to say.

Comparing Obama's attacks on the media for disclosing National Security secrets to Trump calling the press an "enemy of the people" for the "personal attacks" on Trump, himself, show a lack of understanding that boggles the mind.



National security secrets... Such as, Obama had the CIA tap the Russian Ambassadors phone, while spying on Donald Trump and his people for the Hillary campaign?

WTF doesn't bogggle a weak mind like yours

It will be the day when the pres. orders the CIA to do anything it doesn't want to. For all you know for sure, is that the CIA was suspicious enough to do it all on its own.

And once again, if the situation was real enough and many say it was, and it was years ago, you and the rest of the right would quickly complain...'Why wasn't Obama's CIA all over this guy...why weren't his communications intercepted ?' Obama, what a fucking weak pussy of a leader.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:13:34 PM   
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Veteran WaPo Reporter Admits MSM’s Bias Is ‘Overwhelmingly Left'

Media bias is real, finds UCLA political scientist

Conservatives are right: The news media is very liberal

The Liberal Media Exposed - mrc.org

Shocker: Media Apparatchiks Overwhelmingly Vote Democrat

if you were anything other than a leftie, would you think the media was dealing with you objectively?

Nothing shocking here, first these liberals work, nutusuckers are on welfare. Second, they are dealing objectively with the nutsuckers, the factless felchgobbling nutsucker slobberblogs are billed as entertainment to keep them from the laws libel statutes.



The media is biased toward the truth and truth is biased...toward facts.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:16:55 PM   
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And the unions have been siding with President Trump of late

From your link:





According to the White House, participants included North America's Building Trades Unions President Sean McGarvey, Laborers' International Union of North America President Terry O'Sullivan, SMART sheet metal workers' union President Joseph Sellers, United Brotherhood of Carpenters President Doug McCarron and Mark McManus, president of the United Association that represents plumbers, pipefitters, welders and others. The union meeting also included several local union officials and follows a gathering of 12 chief executives of large companies at the White House to discuss revitalizing the U.S. manufacturing economy.

Nothing in that link says the unions are siding with trump.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:22:45 PM   
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great---have congress make a law curtailing the presidents' speech. remind me again that liberals like the 1st amendment?
First, stop calling me a liberal, I am neither liberal or conservative. As I've said before I am a pragmatist, if it works do it if it doesn't don't, no matter whose idea it is.

Second, who needs a law, a person can say almost anything they want but vilification is a waste of time unless you have a use for it down the line.

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that said, there's a difference between necessary and sufficient steps.
Yep

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vilification can be simply vilification. it's debatable whether or not its a necessary step en route to the demise of the press, but at the very least, its not a sufficient one---at least to those of us, again, who aren't chicken little liberals.
Again not a liberal and history shows that, although it can be just vilification, it is often the first step toward something else.

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that is, whatever trump says about the press is not automatically going to lead to whatever a next step could/would be.

True but then why do it at all?

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when reporters start getting assassinated, press buildings are shuttered or financially ruined through government oppression, the government starts buying newspapers, etc---then we have a problem.
But again history shows that is a wee bit too late.

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RE: Trump remark echoes history's worst tyrants - 2/18/2017 5:24:09 PM   
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Now you are just a liar, anyone can follow a link idiot.

Yep, I thought so but it seems that you can't do it and as I said; "Personal insults are the last resort of those who run out of valid arguments."
;-)



Yeah... Try not to melt
Still out of valid arguments I see.
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