Edwird
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I wore the uniform of this country's military for 8 years so I know a hell of a lot more than you pacifist mother fuckers.
I had no idea that wearing a uniform made a person so wise and knowledgeable, Brent. Does that apply to all uniforms, including that of a parking attendant or the Waffen SS?
PFH, I think the assumption was to be that he was IN the US military for those 8 years. It's like the Billy Joel song, Piano Man, with the lyric, "when I wore a younger man's clothes."
Having spent 8 years in the US military just might give someone a better idea about the defense of the US than someone who has not spent time in the US military.
Having read the least bit into US or world history, anybody would know that the US has never actually been in position of properly termed 'defense of the US' since Britain's vandalism raids in 1812-1815. Even with the German attacks on US eastern coast mercantile shipping in the early 1940s, we didn't defend all that much. Once US military officers woke up from their nap, the problem was dispensed with easily enough.
How much of the Vietnam or Iraq ventures could rationally be termed 'national defense,' I'm wondering.
And what good is it to have fought against fascism along with our French and British friends if not passing at least some of the experience onto the younger generation? I have to say, though, that the uncles were all quite reticent about it and wanted to move on to another subject, quickly. No matter how well justified, war is not something to discuss in polite company or at the family dinner table. One of my five uncles in that war was a history major, and only spoke to it from that standpoint. He refused to relate anything of personal experience, that being a chapter in his life he only put away (but not really) after ten years of being a drunkard, which latter episode he did recover from. He was the only one of the lot to serve in Italy and France and Germany and Korea, and we figured out that the latter is what eventually did him in. He quit the drinking, but he smoked like an iron factory to rid himself of this world as soon as possible, in which endeavor he succeeded at age 66, even if that being 30+ years past what he wished.
If watching one of the most well educated and kindest man you've ever come across in your whole experience suffering a life of hell all the while doesn't teach you something, I don't know what would. But he took his large collection of nieces and nephews out to dinner on one memorable occasion, and all he did was smile at us and say a few wonderful things. If that isn't the definition of 'hero,' I don't know what is..
So yes, it is possible that some who are good at paying attention to matters, and especially firsthand experience related to them, including the stoic silences, are well acquainted with concerns of national defense or national offense, either one, even if not having been in the military.
< Message edited by Edwird -- 2/23/2017 9:42:14 PM >
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