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BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 6:50:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have to wonder why there is a 3.8 percent tax cuts for high income payers. which will save...158 billion for those people but by cutting hundreds of billions from medicare they are not attacking the poor? The poor still getting the shaft and the blame. You can't cut taxes for people who never pay in and only receive refunds But don't let the facts interfere with disseminating your hateful lies and disinformation "The poor" get the shaft when leftists destroy economies, it has happened again and again and again and again all over the planet Corporate share of federal tax revenue has dropped by two-thirds in 60 years — from 32% in 1952 to 10% in 2013. That's a good start Seen the jobs report lately? BOOM! [:)]

Lucylastic -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 6:51:54 AM)
seen the jobs reports for the last 70 + months?

BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 6:52:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have to wonder why there is a 3.8 percent tax cuts for high income payers. which will save...158 billion for those people but by cutting hundreds of billions from medicare they are not attacking the poor? The poor still getting the shaft and the blame. You can't cut taxes for people who never pay in and only receive refunds But don't let the facts interfere with disseminating your hateful lies and disinformation "The poor" get the shaft when leftists destroy economies, it has happened again and again and again and again all over the planet The poor get the shaft when bankers and speculators destroy economies. We have had several examples here, the latest in 2008. Give us an example or two when Leftists destroyed economies "time and time again." We don't have to argue about this. Your policies have already played out South of here, we can see how your ideals play out in the real world Venezuela is the end result of a socialist's wet dream Bernie Sanders praised Venezuela as the model socialist state Congratulations Bolivarian Socialists, Venezuela Caught Up With North Korea Venezuela's spiraling violence And you know that Hillary was just like Bernie, only you could see her crooked streak more clearly.

vincentML -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 7:48:19 AM)
AYLEE DRUG TESTING quote: I have not read anything about that. However, I am not so sure you should receive unemployment if drugs were the reason you were fired. I would need more information on this. If it is the same as the drug testing of welfare recipients, then I would not be for it. My understanding is that the new Law will allow states to decide which unemployed recipients would be drug tested at the check dispensary. The O-admin allowed testing only for those who were seeking jobs where drugs might be a problem. SOURCE Accepting the medical model of drug addiction rather than the flawed personality model, I cannot imagine anything more cruel than cutting off funds to an addict and not providing treatment. RACE WAR quote: There is already a race war between blacks There is a turf war and animus between *gangs* for a myriad of possible reasons, not between ethnic or racial populations. HERE IS A LENGTHY DOCTORAL DISSERTATION submitted in 2015 to New York University about the gangs in Los Angeles that might be worth exploring. MINE SAFETY REGULATIONS quote: What were the regulations designed to do? Were they just intended to make the coal mines go out of business? HERE IS A COPY OF THE MINE SAFETY ACT OF 1977 upon which the regulations are based. The O-admin published the regulations before inauguration day to take effect in May. Trump put a freeze on these and all new regulations. quote: I don't think that there is a war against the poor. I do think that the well-intentioned liberal programs for the poor do not work. Along with not working, it is nigh impossible to transition of the programs into a job and home of one's own. Heck, most of the programs will allow you so few assets that you really are not allowed to save money at all. The programs themselves hinder people from improving their lives. It is sad really. President Clinton signed the TANF under pressure of the Gingrich House but I do not excuse Clinton. I have heard the same as you have written and I agree with your assessment but the alternative offered by the Republicans always seems to involve some degree of blame on the poor coupled with social darwinism.

vincentML -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 7:53:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have to wonder why there is a 3.8 percent tax cuts for high income payers. which will save...158 billion for those people but by cutting hundreds of billions from medicare they are not attacking the poor? The poor still getting the shaft and the blame. You can't cut taxes for people who never pay in and only receive refunds But don't let the facts interfere with disseminating your hateful lies and disinformation "The poor" get the shaft when leftists destroy economies, it has happened again and again and again and again all over the planet Corporate share of federal tax revenue has dropped by two-thirds in 60 years — from 32% in 1952 to 10% in 2013. That's a good start Seen the jobs report lately? BOOM! [:)] Seen the jobs reports in 2009? [sm=bury.gif]

vincentML -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 8:04:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have to wonder why there is a 3.8 percent tax cuts for high income payers. which will save...158 billion for those people but by cutting hundreds of billions from medicare they are not attacking the poor? The poor still getting the shaft and the blame. You can't cut taxes for people who never pay in and only receive refunds But don't let the facts interfere with disseminating your hateful lies and disinformation "The poor" get the shaft when leftists destroy economies, it has happened again and again and again and again all over the planet The poor get the shaft when bankers and speculators destroy economies. We have had several examples here, the latest in 2008. Give us an example or two when Leftists destroyed economies "time and time again." We don't have to argue about this. Your policies have already played out South of here, we can see how your ideals play out in the real world Venezuela is the end result of a socialist's wet dream Bernie Sanders praised Venezuela as the model socialist state Congratulations Bolivarian Socialists, Venezuela Caught Up With North Korea Venezuela's spiraling violence I agree, we have no argument. I just wish to know what your definitions are and if you recognize a difference. Conflating words and meanings is just a crummy debating trick.

vincentML -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 8:07:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML You make a good point, Aylee. I live in a county that is over 1300 square miles in area. People have serious travel handicaps if they are without a car. Which reminds me, of how leftists work to make travel unavoidable for the poor. Canceling pipelines, closing off oil fields, working to tax every form of energy to the point that it is out of reach for the poor on account of their "global warming" cult "No heat, no car, no air conditioning for you grandma, and everything costs a fortune to ship - sorry not sorry" Bah.... the price of oil has dropped because of oversupply. Despite the leftist agenda No, because of rampant, unregulated dry-sucking the shale basins. Listen to the giant sucking sound. Oh, wait, it went bust. Free markets, bah.

BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 8:33:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML I agree, we have no argument. I just wish to know what your definitions are and if you recognize a difference. Conflating words and meanings is just a crummy debating trick. Let's start with this word: "War" - hateful leftist rhetoric employed to sew division, and undermine reasonable, rational discussion Then move on to "the Poor" - people who have smart phones, cars, houses, and so much food that Michelle Obama introduced inedible school lunches in order to fight a "fat epidemic"

Aylee -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 8:43:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic I have to wonder why there is a 3.8 percent tax cuts for high income payers. which will save...158 billion for those people but by cutting hundreds of billions from medicare they are not attacking the poor? The poor still getting the shaft and the blame. You can't cut taxes for people who never pay in and only receive refunds But don't let the facts interfere with disseminating your hateful lies and disinformation "The poor" get the shaft when leftists destroy economies, it has happened again and again and again and again all over the planet The poor get the shaft when bankers and speculators destroy economies. We have had several examples here, the latest in 2008. Give us an example or two when Leftists destroyed economies "time and time again." Venezuela and Cuba off the top of my head.

Lucylastic -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:00:58 AM)
LOLOLOLOL

mnottertail -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:05:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML I agree, we have no argument. I just wish to know what your definitions are and if you recognize a difference. Conflating words and meanings is just a crummy debating trick. Let's start with this word: "War" - hateful leftist rhetoric employed to sew division, and undermine reasonable, rational discussion Then move on to "the Poor" - people who have smart phones, cars, houses, and so much food that Michelle Obama introduced inedible school lunches in order to fight a "fat epidemic" So, sow ye this, there was no war on terror under the nutsuckers it was just sewing on the felchgobble? How can you afford your pedophilic pimping iPhone and have no insurance Felchgobbler Gobbles?

BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:07:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic LOLOLOLOL Hilarious? Bernie Sanders praised Venezuela as the model socialist state Congratulations Bolivarian Socialists, Venezuela Caught Up With North Korea Venezuela's spiraling violence

Lucylastic -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:10:16 AM)
Donald Trump is going to cut Meals on Wheels to pay for Mexican border wall The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection Community projects like Meals on Wheels and housing assistance are set to lose out on all of their government funding if Donald Trump's budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year is passed by politicians. The president's proposals include the complete elimination of the $3 billion (£2.4 billion) Community Development Block Grant program, which funds those programs along with other community assistance efforts. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) will also see its funds slashed. The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection, with another $2.6bn (£2.1bn) if his spending plans for the 2018 budget year are approved by the House of Representatives. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-meals-on-wheels-cut-pay-mexico-border-wall-immigration-fema-us-coastguard-budget-a7632551.html Cutting meals on wheels....yeah thats not hurting anyone is it. other in detail info at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO

BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:30:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Donald Trump is going to cut Meals on Wheels to pay for Mexican border wall The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection Community projects like Meals on Wheels and housing assistance are set to lose out on all of their government funding if Donald Trump's budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year is passed by politicians. The president's proposals include the complete elimination of the $3 billion (£2.4 billion) Community Development Block Grant program, which funds those programs along with other community assistance efforts. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) will also see its funds slashed. The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection, with another $2.6bn (£2.1bn) if his spending plans for the 2018 budget year are approved by the House of Representatives. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-meals-on-wheels-cut-pay-mexico-border-wall-immigration-fema-us-coastguard-budget-a7632551.html Cutting meals on wheels....yeah thats not hurting anyone is it. other in detail info at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO Even lat left Snopes says that your alt left propaganda sources are feeding you full of shit

Lucylastic -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:30:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic LOLOLOLOL Hilarious? Bernie Sanders praised Venezuela as the model socialist state Congratulations Bolivarian Socialists, Venezuela Caught Up With North Korea Venezuela's spiraling violence You ignore other "leftist" countries that are doing ok compared to the US right now. healthcare stability wise... I was laughing because it was a distraction from the question asked by Vincent. quote: quote: The poor get the shaft when bankers and speculators destroy economies. We have had several examples here, the latest in 2008. Give us an example or two when Leftists destroyed economies "time and time again." I thought from the post that it was the US being discussed, not cuba and venezuela, So transparent... and worthy of laughing at...certainly not worth taking serious notice of.

Lucylastic -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:37:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Donald Trump is going to cut Meals on Wheels to pay for Mexican border wall The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection Community projects like Meals on Wheels and housing assistance are set to lose out on all of their government funding if Donald Trump's budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year is passed by politicians. The president's proposals include the complete elimination of the $3 billion (£2.4 billion) Community Development Block Grant program, which funds those programs along with other community assistance efforts. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) will also see its funds slashed. The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection, with another $2.6bn (£2.1bn) if his spending plans for the 2018 budget year are approved by the House of Representatives. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-meals-on-wheels-cut-pay-mexico-border-wall-immigration-fema-us-coastguard-budget-a7632551.html Cutting meals on wheels....yeah thats not hurting anyone is it. other in detail info at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO Even lat left Snopes says that your alt left propaganda sources are feeding you full of shit Fair enough It certainly clarified the meals on wheels subject, good find.

BoscoX -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 9:50:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Fair enough It certainly clarified the meals on wheels subject, good find. It's just more of the same typical hysteria. "Everybody keep panicking - Bush is Hitler, Trump is Hitler, anyone who isn't communist is waging war on the poor and the elderly and women and immigrants and gays blah blah blah "

tamaka -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 10:16:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Donald Trump is going to cut Meals on Wheels to pay for Mexican border wall The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection Community projects like Meals on Wheels and housing assistance are set to lose out on all of their government funding if Donald Trump's budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year is passed by politicians. The president's proposals include the complete elimination of the $3 billion (£2.4 billion) Community Development Block Grant program, which funds those programs along with other community assistance efforts. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) will also see its funds slashed. The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection, with another $2.6bn (£2.1bn) if his spending plans for the 2018 budget year are approved by the House of Representatives. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-meals-on-wheels-cut-pay-mexico-border-wall-immigration-fema-us-coastguard-budget-a7632551.html Cutting meals on wheels....yeah thats not hurting anyone is it. other in detail info at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO Meals on Wheels should be handled by the states. It is a local community issue.

mnottertail -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 10:22:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic LOLOLOLOL Hilarious? 1. Bernie Sanders praised Venezuela as the model socialist state 2. Congratulations Bolivarian Socialists, Venezuela Caught Up With North Korea 3. Venezuela's spiraling violence 1. Felchgobbling comrade felchgobbler. 5.8.2011: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america he didnt do anything close to your toiletlicking retarded propaganda. 2. Heritage Foundation that non-causal, non-correlating wonderment of nutsuckerism, felchgobbled by the Koch suckers, has a big airport bathroom problem. Venezuela is a democracy. Unfortunately a corrupt government like the one we have now, they are in a recession, and adding to that, their 95% of economy, oil sale is dropping in price, they borrowed and spent like our nutsuckers and have huge bills, they also have price controls in the midst of their nutsucker inflation, much like we did under the nutsucker Nixon. China has quit lending them money, so they cannot import the food they need. In fact the largest party in Venezuela and the ruling party was formed to 'make venezuela great again' and 'take back venezuela' from the Chavez socialist party. You are looking at pure nutsucker ineptitude and corruption here in Venezuela. 3. The Dictatorial nutsucker Maduro and the nutsucker government is causing riots based on their tyranny, much like what is happening to a far lesser degree in the US. I am sorry felchgobbler gobbles, you are a lying retarded nutsucker, factless and slobberblogging Koch sucker and pedophile pimp as demonstrated by your propaganda.

WhoreMods -> RE: War on the Poor? (3/16/2017 10:23:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Donald Trump is going to cut Meals on Wheels to pay for Mexican border wall The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection Community projects like Meals on Wheels and housing assistance are set to lose out on all of their government funding if Donald Trump's budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year is passed by politicians. The president's proposals include the complete elimination of the $3 billion (£2.4 billion) Community Development Block Grant program, which funds those programs along with other community assistance efforts. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) will also see its funds slashed. The president appears to be prioritising his promised wall along the US-Mexico border which will receive an immediate $1.5bn (£1.2bn) cash injection, with another $2.6bn (£2.1bn) if his spending plans for the 2018 budget year are approved by the House of Representatives. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-meals-on-wheels-cut-pay-mexico-border-wall-immigration-fema-us-coastguard-budget-a7632551.html Cutting meals on wheels....yeah thats not hurting anyone is it. other in detail info at http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-idUSKBN16M1DO Meals on Wheels should be handled by the states. It is a local community issue. Then perhaps Texas and California should deal with the Mexican border between themselves on a State level, rather than expecting the Fed to handle it for them.

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