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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:11:25 PM

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House Leaders Cancel Vote On Obamacare Repeal In Devastating Setback

"The postponement is a devastating defeat for Trump and Ryan, and a major setback in the crusade against Obamacare that has defined Republican Party politics for seven years."

the huffington post, and probably you too, need to get a grip on what the word "devastate" actually means.

The MSM will always frame it in a way to propagandize for the alt left mindset. Obamascam has already been severely weakened, no one has to pay their IRS tax fine penalty for example, and there are other benefits from the Trump executive order

IM still waiting for fox to send out their spin, and alex, and breitbart, news max, rush etc
they dont seem to have much of anything but blame obama
its amusing.

The infighting has started(Only one example)
Don't Blame Ryan?

B-S! I sure as Hell blame Ryan & his RINO pigs.
Ryan never even talks to the conservatives. People like Gomert are laughed at and ignored.

I have had enough of RINOs and getting screwed by them.
And HEAR THIS RINOs:

NO AMNESTY

Like that's bad? Democrats can't get enough of their festering pus-filled party elites, and you approve of that?

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:13:18 PM

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oh he is one angry man under the surface..
just in from cnn

The blame game: Trump blamed Democrats for the failed health care bill, saying they didn't support it.
"Let Obamacare explode": The President says Obamacare is about to "explode," signaling that he won't be proactive in saving it because its failure will force Democrats to come to him.
Lessons learned: Trump said he "learned a lot" about how a process like this works in DC — and he said he "learned a lot about loyalty." This bill revealed the splintered groups within the party.
A hard day for Republicans: Speaker Paul Ryan was blunt about this defeat: The GOP is having growing pains. It went from being the opposition party to the governing party.
"2018 will be tough": There's already fear among Republican leadership about what this means for the next election.
What comes next: Trump and the GOP are moving on from health care, the next issue they will tackle is tax reform.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/politics/trump-health-care-latest/index.html

I am shocked, shocked to learn that the Dealmaker in Chief greeted his defeat by blaming others.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:16:36 PM

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He is a YUGE negotiator, obviously they didnt get that in a bigly way, of course its their fault. He negotiated, I saw him on TV.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:18:17 PM

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Desperate whore lucylastic –shall we engage minds

If you call me a whore again, I will piss on your muffins.
seriously

(I've always loved you.....now more than ever).

(Hurt me).

You just cant quit me, grins:)

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:23:25 PM

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Like that's bad? Democrats can't get enough of their festering pus-filled party elites, and you approve of that?

"festering pus-filled party elites", is that a brand name Im not familiar with?

What on earth are you wittering about?
the example?
I left the death threats out....

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:28:27 PM

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FR...not intended against anyone (unless you're a dumbfuck...which...many of you are).

Do you all have ANY concept what you're complaining about?

No....you don't.

(But...you want free cheese).

Foreigners...commenting about our "currency" (what we're paying for)...who the flying fuck are you? (No one).

Pay my taxes...then...jump right the fuck in.

MOST Republicans are THRILLED this legislation wasn't passed.

Why? Because it didn't cover basic needs.

Who are Republicans? The folks that provide most of the jobs! (Investment....THINK!!!!).

Guess what? We're selfish! We know that....without support...we can't produce cars/parking lots/landscaping/sheetrock/etc.

Ford did it/said it best...he said in the early 1900's...."if my people can't afford my products....why am I here?"

EVERY Republican knows (selfishly) that if people can't get to work....they can't produce product.

GET the fuck OVER yourselves!!!

EVERYONE has to win!

THINK!

(Everyone has to win).

Not most. Some. and not Republicans, nutsuckers. The Freedom Caucus and that faction of the party was thrilled that it didnt pass, because it tried to cover something. If we had single payer, and rid ourselves of most insurance companies, healthcare monopolies, corporate welfare, cut millitary spending drastically, then we might get over ourselves.

I think you will find that Republicans do not provide the most 'investment' I can think of many Democrats that provide as much, easily.

Don't think, KNOW.

Valid point...(truly) let's consider....

Single payer (who pays?)

You. (Yes....you).

Medicare....older folks. Your Mom....mine as well.

(I'd pay for that...I kinda like my Mom {sue me} and...if she needs me...I'd paid for her...112 times over...she can move in with me tomorrow).

Medicaid...younger folks and indigents.

(Why?...because they're young?...People that can't...I'm in but....for how much?).

Let's be clear....indigents are those that can't....and young folks....well.....

Is it right that young folks should get a free ride?

If so...who pays?

You....me....everyone...?

Who pays (someone has to).

When you were a kid...who paid for you?

(That would be...your parents....and....no one...once you became responsible...was responsible for you but for....you).

At 20 kabillion....quintrillion....in (published) debt....how many more taxes are you willing to pay to support those that will...."live forever" (they're kids...like we all once were)....as you were (once)...............are you sure you would?

Isn't it actually time for YOUR children (mine as well) and EVERYONE (child or adult) to step the fuck up?

Isn't it time they stood the FUCK UP????

Do you TRULY want SNOWFLAKES paying your bills in 30 years????

Do you TRULY want all those that follow....to rely on.....

(YOU???)???

BECAUSE....UNTIL you say...."ENOUGH!!!!"...you are PAVING the way for the next generation to say....."I need a safe space"....."I don't feel comfortable with this"....and...."Yeah....thanks Dad (Mom)...it was a great ride but....thanks for wiping MY butt....yours.....well......"

STOP telling/agreeing with these kids that "He ain't my President/ain't my responsibility/sorry Mom/Dad....you wiped mine but....the world has changed....fuck you...."

You're teaching these kids that the future is NOT their responsibility.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:35:09 PM

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He is a YUGE negotiator, obviously they didnt get that in a bigly way, of course its their fault. He negotiated, I saw him on TV.

Nobody makes deals like Cheeto Hitler!

The Art of the Deal

1. Don’t learn the facts about the deal
2. Take someone else’s deal
3. Let a third party offer a worse deal
4. Beg
5. Give up on the deal

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:36:22 PM

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Whoa. If you think Republicans are the drivers of the economy and Democrats are the brakes, you've been sniffing the partisan glue.

Right now I'm not happy with either party, but come on.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:36:55 PM

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Who are Republicans? The folks that provide most of the jobs! (Investment....THINK!!!!).

Got any data to back that up?

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:52:11 PM

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 5:56:20 PM

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He is a YUGE negotiator, obviously they didnt get that in a bigly way, of course its their fault. He negotiated, I saw him on TV.

Nobody makes deals like Cheeto Hitler!

The Art of the Deal

1. Don’t learn the facts about the deal
2. Take someone else’s deal
3. Let a third party offer a worse deal
4. Beg
5. Give up on the deal

i volunteer for the begging part

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 6:00:25 PM

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FR

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 6:05:32 PM

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House Leaders Cancel Vote On Obamacare Repeal In Devastating Setback

"The postponement is a devastating defeat for Trump and Ryan, and a major setback in the crusade against Obamacare that has defined Republican Party politics for seven years."

the huffington post, and probably you too, need to get a grip on what the word "devastate" actually means.

The MSM will always frame it in a way to propagandize for the alt left mindset. Obamascam has already been severely weakened, no one has to pay their IRS tax fine penalty for example, and there are other benefits from the Trump executive order

IM still waiting for fox to send out their spin, and alex, and breitbart, news max, rush etc
they dont seem to have much of anything but blame obama
its amusing.

The infighting has started(Only one example)
Don't Blame Ryan?

B-S! I sure as Hell blame Ryan & his RINO pigs.
Ryan never even talks to the conservatives. People like Gomert are laughed at and ignored.

I have had enough of RINOs and getting screwed by them.
And HEAR THIS RINOs:

NO AMNESTY

Like that's bad? Democrats can't get enough of their festering pus-filled party elites, and you approve of that?

hey lucy, apparently you haven't been told this enough so i'll try again:

there is no FOX NEWS as a monolithic entity that will do anything close to what you are suggesting. given that the network employs a variety of people with ideological differences, those differences manifested themselves over the recent vote being cancelled and opinions are all over the map.

to quote bill oreilly: wise up.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 6:19:46 PM

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if I had said fox news you might have a point.
the example I gave was from fox nation.
I didnt say fox news
maybe you need better comprehension
I ve mention it before, but its your strawman not mine.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 6:43:44 PM

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his next golf game?

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 6:46:39 PM

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FR to the OP
I don't think it's a defeat to Ryan. He has been waiting since Nov to stick a knife in Trump's back and here is a small opportunity.
To those who blame the Dems, I have one word.....DUMBASS......... It was the Republicans who decided not to pursue it and they could have passed it without a single D vote in either house.
Trump's own party is stabbing him, you stupid fucks.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 7:23:05 PM

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House Leaders Cancel Vote On Obamacare Repeal In Devastating Setback

"The postponement is a devastating defeat for Trump and Ryan, and a major setback in the crusade against Obamacare that has defined Republican Party politics for seven years."

Good,we are in agreement.

This thing was a hastily patched together cluster. We need to drop the partisanship and work together on a sustainable system. And while I support Trump-he needs to back his ego the fuck off, and start acting like a leader-not a reality show hack.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 8:03:09 PM

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House Leaders Cancel Vote On Obamacare Repeal In Devastating Setback

"The postponement is a devastating defeat for Trump and Ryan, and a major setback in the crusade against Obamacare that has defined Republican Party politics for seven years."

Good,we are in agreement.

This thing was a hastily patched together cluster. We need to drop the partisanship and work together on a sustainable system. And while I support Trump-he needs to back his ego the fuck off, and start acting like a leader-not a reality show hack.

Democrats will work with Trump in improving O-care as soon as he takes "repeal" off the table. By blaming them for the failure of his first major piece of legislation he is closing the door on any possible cooperation. Face it, Trump doesn't give a shit what's in the ACA Law. He probably did not know what was in the AHCA Bill. He is only interested in winning, what ever piece of shit legislation is brought before him. He has a narcissistic compulsion to win.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 8:10:21 PM

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House Leaders Cancel Vote On Obamacare Repeal In Devastating Setback

"The postponement is a devastating defeat for Trump and Ryan, and a major setback in the crusade against Obamacare that has defined Republican Party politics for seven years."

Good,we are in agreement.

This thing was a hastily patched together cluster. We need to drop the partisanship and work together on a sustainable system. And while I support Trump-he needs to back his ego the fuck off, and start acting like a leader-not a reality show hack.

Democrats will work with Trump in improving O-care as soon as he takes "repeal" off the table. By blaming them for the failure of his first major piece of legislation he is closing the door on any possible cooperation. Face it, Trump doesn't give a shit what's in the ACA Law. He probably did not know what was in the AHCA Bill. He is only interested in winning, what ever piece of shit legislation is brought before him. He has a narcissistic compulsion to win.

I'm interested in US winning,and shaving880 million off of medicare to give to the military is bullshit.

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RE: TRUMPCARE DEAD for now . . - 3/24/2017 8:14:48 PM

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I don't think it's a defeat to Ryan. He has been waiting since Nov to stick a knife in Trump's back and here is a small opportunity.
To those who blame the Dems, I have one word.....DUMBASS......... It was the Republicans who decided not to pursue it and they could have passed it without a single D vote in either house.
Trump's own party is stabbing him, you stupid fucks.

Ryan had eight years to get his ducks in a row. Big fail. Ryan could not bring his party together on a major Bill. He is left weakened.

And Trump is left irrelevant. No one is afraid of him. No one respects him. Big Loser. The Republicans are in disarray. What a clown.

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